1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, PUBLISHED JANUARY 24, 2014

imhotep

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    Probably you have missed a couple of my posts on it last year.
    The full genome of the Spanish Flu has been now sequenced and this is the common ancestor of human and classical swine H1N1 influenza viruses.
    It's now known that it really started again from China. Just after the war the west imported cheap labour from China and along came the virus. I had written full details earlier in one of the Covid megathreads.
    There are a few books written on this and CDC carries the complete story on how the discovery was made.
     

    arunat

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    Probably you have missed a couple of my posts on it last year.
    The full genome of the Spanish Flu has been now sequenced and this is the common ancestor of human and classical swine H1N1 influenza viruses.
    It's now known that it really started again from China. Just after the war the west imported cheap labour from China and along came the virus. I had written full details earlier in one of the Covid megathreads.
    There are a few books written on this and CDC carries the complete story on how the discovery was made.
    Thanks for that, sorry I didn't see your earlier posts, I will go through them now. I was not aware that the Spanish flu also originated in China, was surprised to read that article written in 2014. Have you got a link to the CDC document?
     

    imhotep

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    Thanks for that, sorry I didn't see your earlier posts, I will go through them now. I was not aware that the Spanish flu also originated in China, was surprised to read that article written in 2014. Have you got a link to the CDC document?

    FYI...This is a copy of another post on a different thread about the cremations....

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    I cannot comment on the mechanics of the seepage to the water-table, other than stating that it's a concern and a possibility. Viruses do last for years in dead bodies and does reach beyond the grave. I mentioned this before on another thread. Pls read below a part from that write-up.

    "Recently in 2016, some researchers in Lithuania and Finland hoping to gather DNA from a more obscure virus collected tissue from the mummified remains of a young child found within the mid-17th century crypt of the Dominican Church. The child had no visible pox marks, but when the researchers sent the sample of the ancient DNA there was a big surprise. The sample was rich with variola, the virus that causes smallpox. The large quantity of the virus allowed the researchers to construct a high-quality copy of its genome, the first from such an old virus.
    The other surprise was that this viral DNA shared many distinct features with modern strains of the variola virus, including several mutations, suggesting they were closely related. The researchers built a family tree of 49 modern strains and the child’s ancient one, and traced the evolution of all of them back to a common ancestor that arose between 1530 and 1654 C.E."

    This is not the only instance. The complete genome of the Spanish Flu has been constructed from parts of dead bodies. That's how the scientists now know that it also started in China.

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    Anyway, there were a couple of books on the Spanish Flu Epidemic by Mark Humphries.

    The CDC's "The Deadliest Flu: The Complete Story of the Discovery and Reconstruction of the 1918 Pandemic Virus" - on how the virus was reconstructed.
     

    arunat

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    FYI...This is a copy of another post on a different thread about the cremations....

    <snip>
    I cannot comment on the mechanics of the seepage to the water-table, other than stating that it's a concern and a possibility. Viruses do last for years in dead bodies and does reach beyond the grave. I mentioned this before on another thread. Pls read below a part from that write-up.

    "Recently in 2016, some researchers in Lithuania and Finland hoping to gather DNA from a more obscure virus collected tissue from the mummified remains of a young child found within the mid-17th century crypt of the Dominican Church. The child had no visible pox marks, but when the researchers sent the sample of the ancient DNA there was a big surprise. The sample was rich with variola, the virus that causes smallpox. The large quantity of the virus allowed the researchers to construct a high-quality copy of its genome, the first from such an old virus.
    The other surprise was that this viral DNA shared many distinct features with modern strains of the variola virus, including several mutations, suggesting they were closely related. The researchers built a family tree of 49 modern strains and the child’s ancient one, and traced the evolution of all of them back to a common ancestor that arose between 1530 and 1654 C.E."

    This is not the only instance. The complete genome of the Spanish Flu has been constructed from parts of dead bodies. That's how the scientists now know that it also started in China.

    <snip>

    Anyway, there were a couple of books on the Spanish Flu Epidemic by Mark Humphries.

    The CDC's "The Deadliest Flu: The Complete Story of the Discovery and Reconstruction of the 1918 Pandemic Virus" - on how the virus was reconstructed.
    Thanks mate, you are a very knowledgeable and helpful guy. What's your profession?