End of EV????

[dinuksha_asela]

I totally get you. I'm also an enthusiast of V10, V12 engine sounds & brands like lambo, pagani, bugatti.
but most of the people like 95%, just want to get to point A - B (home to office, supermarket, etc) with the best comfort (no noises, no vibrations, etc), fast, low maintenance cost. they don't care about engine noises, gear changes or generally speaking driving pleasure.
they also don't need 1000km batteries. if they can have ~350km range & ability to charge it to 80% in 10 - 15 mins, that's enough.

only issue is battery cost, charging time & lack of charging stations. battery technology is advancing in really fast pace and many battery techs in R&D pace as well. things only will get better with time. charging station issue is only a investment issue, when we see more EVs on roads, investors will invest more on charging stations.

Im not a fan of Super Cars, listings which i posted all are executive sedans. Yes, now its not the time for EVs.. maybe after all the issues iron out.. till then.. ICE is here to stay..

 

[Don GasCan]

ඇයි එහෙම කියන්නේ . කලින් මගේ petrol car එකට සතියකට $50 ක petrol ගහනවා. දැන් සතියකට ev එකේ වියදම $8. ඉතින් කොහොමද scam ekak wenne.experts pls explain

‍ඔයාගේ චාජින් පොයින්ට් එකට එන විදුලිය නිපදවෙන්නේ වැඩිහරිය ෆොසිල ඉන්ධන භාවිතයෙන් දුවන බලාගාර වලින් . අප්පගේ ඉකෝ අප්පගේ සස්ටේනබල්

 

[dinuksha_asela]

‍ඔයාගේ චාජින් පොයින්ට් එකට එන විදුලිය නිපදවෙන්නේ වැඩිහරිය ෆොසිල ඉන්ධන භාවිතයෙන් දුවන බලාගාර වලින් . අප්පගේ ඉකෝ අප්පගේ සස්ටේනබල්

Ai Batteries.. hithan inne ewa ibe pahala wenawa kiyala.. lol

 

[Draco Malfoy]

But most serviceable parts (even most parts in the car) are not manufactured by the car manufacturer. There are many OEM manufacturers attached to each car manufacturer. So most of the time money goes to them.
Toyota
- Denso
- Aisin
- ExxconMobil
- etc
BMW
- Brembo
- BorgWarner
- Castrol/Shell
- Mahle

those parts manufacturers still has to pay license fee to the vehicle manufacturer. so car companies still make so much money from the existing fleet.

One of the main reasons is people still prefer ICE over EV as you mentioned. When times come to EV cars with long range and a charge time of less than 10-15min, people will start looking into it unless governments force them with rules and regulations.

I think 95% of people just want to get to point A - B (home to office, supermarket, etc) with the best comfort (no noises, no vibrations, etc), fast, low maintenance cost. they don't care about engine noises, gear changes or generally speaking driving pleasure.
they also don't need 1000km batteries. if they can have ~350km range & ability to charge it to 80% in 10 - 15 mins, that's enough.

EVs are scam there is no actual environmentally friendly approach. Whats happening is all tailpipe emissions is shifted to somewhere else.

no, it's not a scam. If you analyze it in pure technical point, EVs are much much more efficient than any ICE vehicle.
ICE vehicles like incandescent light bulbs while EVs like LED lights.

If you think EVs are a scam because of most of the countries burn diesel or coal to generate power, you're thinking too narrowly.
AFAIK, coal or diesel power plants always run at stable most efficient rpm unlike vehicle engines. so they extract the best possible energy out of the fuel it burn, which is impossible with ICE vehicles, no ICE car can run the engine in it's most efficient rpm band at all the time.
so if a diesel power generator power for 1000 evs, that has higher chance of saving fuel, carbon emission than running 1000 pure ICE vehicles.

other reason is, burning coal or diesel is not the only way to power the grid, we can power the grid with solar, wind, hydro or nuclear as well (hopefully in future nuclear fusion as well).
today, our grid may be 60% - 70% relying on coal power, but it can be changed gradually in future.
so in the future EVs has path to be better in emissions, but if you use ICE vehicles, even in 100 years into the future, they will still be burning petrol, diesel and emit carbon. they have no way to progress.

what EVs does is decoupling auto industry from energy (petroleum) industry. EVs doesn't have any dependency to a physical substance like petrol, diesel, hydrogen. If it gets power from anywhere, it works. how that power is generated, is over to the energy industry, whether they burn coal, LNG or solar, it's upto them. because of that EVs has so many possibilities to progress in it's own pace.

 

[supun_sg]

Nuclear Power Source එකක් ආව දවසට ගොඩ. 100‍,000 කිලෝ මීටර් දුවන්න බැටරියක් වගේ nuclear engine එකක් එක්ක ආවොත් පට්ට but accident එකකදි ඒ පරමාණු එලියට නොයන විදියට මොකක් හරි තියෙන්නත් ඕන. නැත්නම් පරිසර හිතකාමී එකක්

accident ekakadi nuclear engine eka pupurannath oni nathnam kisi risk ekak nane. Thel gahanneth nathuwa charge karanneth nathuwa ohe duwaddi boring wenawane.

 

[Draco Malfoy]

Im not a fan of Super Cars, listings which i posted all are executive sedans. Yes, now its not the time for EVs.. maybe after all the issues iron out.. till then.. ICE is here to stay..

ICE were here for 100 of years and already we have the best they offer. there is no improvements to get from ICE anymore.
with the current limitations of the EVs, ICE vehicles make so much sense to many uses. in some cases ICE/ hybrids are the best choice for now.
maybe for the next 20, 25 years, ICE (hybrids) will be the choice for many. but after that it only goes down.
so if you only concern next 20-25 years, yes ICE is here to stay but after that not so much.

‍ඔයාගේ චාජින් පොයින්ට් එකට එන විදුලිය නිපදවෙන්නේ වැඩිහරිය ෆොසිල ඉන්ධන භාවිතයෙන් දුවන බලාගාර වලින් . අප්පගේ ඉකෝ අප්පගේ සස්ටේනබල්

okata mama uda dapu reply eken part ekak pahala qoute karannam.
btw EVs are not just for better emisions and sustainability.

If you think EVs are a scam because of most of the countries burn diesel or coal to generate power, you're thinking too narrowly.
AFAIK, coal or diesel power plants always run at stable most efficient rpm unlike vehicle engines. so they extract the best possible energy out of the fuel it burn, which is impossible with ICE vehicles, no ICE car can run the engine in it's most efficient rpm band at all the time.
so if a diesel power generator power for 1000 evs, that has higher chance of saving fuel, carbon emission than running 1000 pure ICE vehicles.

other reason is, burning coal or diesel is not the only way to power the grid, we can power the grid with solar, wind, hydro or nuclear as well (hopefully in future nuclear fusion as well).
today, our grid may be 60% - 70% relying on coal power, but it can be changed gradually in future.
so in the future EVs has path to be better in emissions, but if you use ICE vehicles, even in 100 years into the future, they will still be burning petrol, diesel and emit carbon. they have no way to progress.

what EVs does is decoupling auto industry from energy (petroleum) industry. EVs doesn't have any dependency to a physical substance like petrol, diesel, hydrogen. If it gets power from anywhere, it works. how that power is generated, is over to the energy industry, whether they burn coal, LNG or solar, it's upto them. because of that EVs has so many possibilities to progress in it's own pace.

Ai Batteries.. hithan inne ewa ibe pahala wenawa wenawa kiyala.. lol

most of the stuff we need for batteries can be recycled. iron, nickel etc. since we don't have so much EV battery waste yet, companies doesn't invest millions for construction of mega recycling plants. because of that mining is cheaper relative to recycling. I think tesla also has claimed in 2030 or so they will be able to manufacture batteires from recycling their old ones.
So what we have is reclying issue. and it will only get better.

and there are many battery tech in R&D, testing to mass produce level which can be made without environment damaging mining.
I think Sodium batteries are like that, many companies working on that including tesla

but with ICE, even in 100 years we still mine for crude oil and burn petrol & diesel, no reclying with that one.

 

[Don GasCan]

Ai Batteries.. hithan inne ewa ibe pahala wenawa wenawa kiyala.. lol

අර අප්‍රිකාවේ අවුරුදු 5 උනුත් නරාකාදි වගේ ඒවගේ ඩොලර් සත 5-10 වැඩ . ස්කෑම් තමා

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okata mama uda dapu reply eken part ekak pahala qoute karannam.
btw EVs are not just for better emisions and sustainability.

හරිතාගාර වායු නිශ්පාදන අඩු කරන්න නේ ev එන්නේ මාකට් එකට . ඇත්තටම ඒක වෙනවද ?
මානව හිමිකම් රහිතව ශ්‍රමය සුරාකමින් ev බැට්‍රි මුලද්‍රවය ගොඩ දාන පතල්
ඉවතලන බැට්‍රි මගින් පරිසරයය සිදුවන හානිය

ජෙනියක් ඩිකියේ දාගෙන දුරගමන් යන ඇමරිකන් ටෙස්ලා පාරිභෝගිකයන්

මේ ඔක්කම බැලුවම ස්කෑම් එකක් නෙමෙයිද .
------ Post added on May 21, 2024 at 10:01 AM

 

[dinuksha_asela]

and there are many battery tech in R&D, testing to mass produce level which can be made without environment damaging mining.
I think Sodium batteries are like that, many companies working on that including tesla

but with ICE, even in 100 years we still mine for crude oil and burn petrol & diesel, no reclying with that one.

You cant mine without harming the env. Thats pure bullshit. And you cant recycle used batteries 100%. Even then theres something called “cost” involved with it and thats gonna added it to the overall cost of Vehicle. Can you explain why Governments trying to forcefully trying these on folks without improving Public transport in countries like US? You think these chaps are really care about public mass.. lol..

folks will turn it into EVs when these are ready and reliable.. what happens now is Governments trying to forcefully asks masses to use. Which is going to fail (what really happen in US)..

 

[chirantha19890821]

මෙටෙක්නොලොජි එක මරු හැබැයි, මේකත් එක්කම්ම ප්රිවට් බස් පාරේ ධාවනයෙන් අයින් කරනකන් මම ගෙයින් එලියට අඩිය තියන්නේ නැහැ......

මන් නං එක්කො පාරෙන් හෙන ඈතක ඉඩමක් ගන්නවා... එක්කෝ Nuclear බංකරයක් ගහගන්නවා...

 

[vali aththa]

Most giant car manufacturing companies, like Toyota, still prefer to manufacture cars with combustion engines (ICE cars) or hybrid cars because these cars need constant service and spare parts. One ICE car will generate at least 20 years of cash flow for these companies (in some regions, it's 20-35 years). If they stop producing ICE cars and shift to EVs, it will not generate cash like ICE cars (EVs have no moving parts and require less service). Thus, these market leaders are not foolish enough to cut their cash trees.

All major market leaders are capable of manufacturing EVs, but they will not move to mass production until they see a significant market shift (people still prefer ICE cars due to range and charging time issues).

However, China is slowly capturing the EV market and continuously improving battery technology. Within the next two years, China is expected to overcome the range and charging time barriers (with some EVs already surpassing 1000 km per single charge).

Toyota is still trying to invent a hydrogen car because it functions similarly to an ICE car and offers long-term benefits after the sale. However, hydrogen-to-electricity energy consumption is higher, making direct battery EVs cheaper than hydrogen cars. Therefore, hydrogen cars will not be viable in the future unless new low-cost technology is invented.

Baila china production karanna ba oya koi aiyatath. Ekai un enne nathey. Apple ev ehema hadanneth na.

 

[waca]

EV වල ප්‍රශ්නෙ වුනේ රටවල් වල ප්‍රතිපත්ති සම්පාදකයො EV යුගයට පරිවර්තනය වීම හදිස්සි කරන්න පාරිභෝගිකයොන්ට EV අවශ්‍යම නැති වුනත් ගන්න ඕන තත්ත්වයට ගෙනාපු එක. ඉස්සරහට බැටරි තාක්ෂණය, charging infrastructure දියුණු වේවි. ඒත් දැන් තියෙන තත්ත්වය මේ අනවශ්‍ය හදිස්සිය නිසා වුන දෙයක්. EV වල depreciation අනෙත් වාහන වලට වැඩියි., ඒ හින්ද ගත්ත අයට ඒක ප්‍රශ්නයක් තමයි. චීන රජය ev වලට විශාල වශයෙන් සහන දුන්න හින්ද තමයි ඔය විදියට තියෙන්නෙ චීනෙ, ඒ අතරතුරේ චීනෙ සමහර සමාගමුත් බංකොලොත් වෙලා තියෙනව.

 

[dinuksha_asela]

EV වල ප්‍රශ්නෙ වුනේ රටවල් වල ප්‍රතිපත්ති සම්පාදකයො EV යුගයට පරිවර්තනය වීම හදිස්සි කරන්න පාරිභෝගිකයොන්ට EV අවශ්‍යම නැති වුනත් ගන්න ඕන තත්ත්වයට ගෙනාපු එක. ඉස්සරහට බැටරි තාක්ෂණය, charging infrastructure දියුණු වේවි. ඒත් දැන් තියෙන තත්ත්වය මේ අනවශ්‍ය හදිස්සිය නිසා වුන දෙයක්. EV වල depreciation අනෙත් වාහන වලට වැඩියි., ඒ හින්ද ගත්ත අයට ඒක ප්‍රශ්නයක් තමයි. චීන රජය ev වලට විශාල වශයෙන් සහන දුන්න හින්ද තමයි ඔය විදියට තියෙන්නෙ චීනෙ, ඒ අතරතුරේ චීනෙ සමහර සමාගමුත් බංකොලොත් වෙලා තියෙනව.

Onewata wada ange gahanna gihin thamai kelo gaththe.. Ona Technology ekak Mature wenakum Public danna narakai.. dan me waden EV walata thibba Reputation ekatath kela wela giyaa.. Government wala inna gobbayo karana wada hindai Political Agendas hindai.. Oka mulin karanna oni Public Transport Sector eka EV walata maaru karana eka. MRTs Buses etc. eeta passe Commercial transport then Consumer cars. Gradual phaseover ekak karanne nathuwa ekaparata karanna giyama Hudee janaya redda karata aragena enne.. dan wela thiyenne oka thamai..

 

[waca]

Onewata wada ange gahanna gihin thamai kelo gaththe.. Ona Technology ekak Mature wenakum Public danna narakai.. dan me waden EV walata thibba Reputation ekatath kela wela giyaa.. Government wala inna gobbayo karana wada hindai Political Agendas hindai.. Oka mulin karanna oni Public Transport Sector eka EV walata maaru karana eka. MRTs Buses etc. eeta passe Commercial transport then Consumer cars. Gradual phaseover ekak karanne nathuwa ekaparata karanna giyama Hudee janaya redda karata aragena enne.. dan wela thiyenne oka thamai..

ඔව්, රජයන් මේක සම්බන්ධව ඉංජිනේරුවොන්ට වඩා ආර්ථික විද්‍යාඥයොයි පරිසරවේදියො කියන ඒව අහන්න ගිහින් කරගත්තෙ

 

[chami2015]

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[sajith.xp.pk]

oke battery tech eka improve wena eka thama danata lokuma limitation eka. charging speed, range and cost adu battery ekak awa gaman godak durata problem solved.

බැටරියේ තාක්ෂනය නිකන් හිටල වගේ තියෙන්නෙ... සයිස් එක වැඩි කරන්නම වෙනව කැපෑසිටි වැඩි කරනව නම්. ඒකනෙ කේස් එක. එක්කො ලිතියන් නැතුව වෙන අලුත් මූලද්‍රව්‍යයක් හොයා ගන්න වෙනව කැපෑසිටි වැඩි කරන්න නම්. චාජින් පොයින්ට් අඩු සීන් එක තමයි අනික් කාරනේ. අනික දුර ගමනක් යනව නම් EV car හරියන්නෙ නෑ නේහ්.... trinco trip එකක් වගේ ගිහින් එන්න බයයි නේහ්... ඒකයි සීන් එක.

 

[dinuksha_asela]

බැටරියේ තාක්ෂනය නිකන් හිටල වගේ තියෙන්නෙ... සයිස් එක වැඩි කරන්නම වෙනව කැපෑසිටි වැඩි කරනව නම්. ඒකනෙ කේස් එක. එක්කො ලිතියන් නැතුව වෙන අලුත් මූලද්‍රව්‍යයක් හොයා ගන්න වෙනව කැපෑසිටි වැඩි කරන්න නම්. චාජින් පොයින්ට් අඩු සීන් එක තමයි අනික් කාරනේ. අනික දුර ගමනක් යනව නම් EV car හරියන්නෙ නෑ නේහ්.... trinco trip එකක් වගේ ගිහින් එන්න බයයි නේහ්... ඒකයි සීන් එක.

eeta kalin Hydrogen Tech eka issarahata ey wage.. ICE Engine techma use karannath puluwanne..

 

[sajith.xp.pk]

eeta kalin Hydrogen Tech eka issarahata ey wage.. ICE Engine techma use karannath puluwanne..

ඔව්. මාත් දැක්ක Toyota ල පට්ට Hydrogen engine එකක් හදල කියල. හැබැයි Disadvantage වගේකුත් තියෙනව කියල තිබ්බ.. බලමු....

 

[Draco Malfoy]

අර අප්‍රිකාවේ අවුරුදු 5 උනුත් නරාකාදි වගේ ඒවගේ ඩොලර් සත 5-10 වැඩ . ස්කෑම් තමා

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හරිතාගාර වායු නිශ්පාදන අඩු කරන්න නේ ev එන්නේ මාකට් එකට . ඇත්තටම ඒක වෙනවද ?

oya katha karanne political side eken. political side eken ev walata lokuma keyword eka 'emission' thama.

mama kiyanne technology perspective eken. technology side eken gaththama ev kiyanne land vehicles walata hodama tech eka emission is only a part of it. mama emissions athin gaththath ev coal power walin charge karath still better wenna reason eka explian kala uda.

danata thiyena battery & charging limitations nisa, hama land vehicle ekatama Electric practicle na, ewata ICE or Hybrid hodai.
but EVs only get better with time. ICE wala thawa progress weemak na. okai mama adahas karanne.

මානව හිමිකම් රහිතව ශ්‍රමය සුරාකමින් ev බැට්‍රි මුලද්‍රවය ගොඩ දාන පතල්

true. but we can fix all of those. danata ev battery wala cobolt use wena nisa owage child labour thiyena mines walin samahara company purchase karanawa. but mama danna tharamata godak strict rules thiyena europe companies ewage sources walin ganne na.
anith eka ev dan thiyena battery tech ekama digatama use karanna one kiyala deyak na petrol or diesel wage.
danatama godak company cobolt adu karala nickel, sodium wage ewata shift wenna aran thiyenawa. ekai mama kiyanne issarahata owa godak hadenawa.

ඉවතලන බැට්‍රි මගින් පරිසරයය සිදුවන හානිය

battery dispose walin wena impact ekata solution eka recycle karana eka misak. ev wisik karala sada kalika ice use karamu kiyana eka wisadumak neme. kalinuth damma wage danata ev market eka loku nathi nisath, depose karanna wena battery enawa adu nisath investorsla thama mega recycling plant walata invest karanne na. but with the time it's gonna be better.

ජෙනියක් ඩිකියේ දාගෙන දුරගමන් යන ඇමරිකන් ටෙස්ලා පාරිභෝගිකයන්

මේ ඔක්කම බැලුවම ස්කෑම් එකක් නෙමෙයිද .
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mama eka thama kiwwem danata thiyena technology eka anuwa hama usecase ekatama EV hariyanne na.
cross country distances, hauling trucks walata wage hybrid thama hodama option eka danata.
kawru hari kenek tesla ekak aran geniyak dikiye dan yanawanam, eita kalin uta molayak denna one. uge use eka anuwa wahanayak thoraganna buddiya denna.

again kiyanawa, EV danata thiyena battery, charging ekka hamotama galapenne nathi wenna puluwan but with the time it will only get better.

You cant mine without harming the env. Thats pure bullshit.

who said you can mine without damaging? I said the tech companies researching / testing once that doesn't need any mining at all. quoted below

and there are many battery tech in R&D, testing to mass produce level which can be made without environment damaging mining.
I think Sodium batteries are like that, many companies working on that including tesla

And you cant recycle used batteries 100%. Even then theres something called “cost” involved with it and thats gonna added it to the overall cost of Vehicle.

100% most probably not. but over 85% 90% can be recycled afaik. & with tech like sodium batteries you don't have to worry about recycling. but recycling always helps. yes recycling will add some cost to the batteries yet with the technology things will only improve. that's only way. batteries will be cheaper, last longer, easier to recycle.

Can you explain why Governments trying to forcefully trying these on folks without improving Public transport in countries like US? You think these chaps are really care about public mass.. lol..
folks will turn it into EVs when these are ready and reliable.. what happens now is Governments trying to forcefully asks masses to use.

what youre saying is political matter. I'm talking in technical perspective. these are two different factors.
I personally don't agree that anyone pushing toward EV or ICE by force. people should get to choose what they prefer.

Which is going to fail (what really happen in US)..

I think this is short term market behaviour. EV sales will get better with time in global market.

Onewata wada ange gahanna

true

gihin thamai kelo gaththe..

kelo gaththa kiyanna ba. meka short term deyak. global EV sales wadi wei with the time.

Ona Technology ekak Mature wenakum Public danna narakai..

mokakda mature enough kiyala defin wena level eka? mature kiyana eka subjective.
danatama thiyena EV tech ICE walata wada hodata match wena kattiya innawa, eyalata mature enough already.
but ton ganak bara adagena 1000km yana ayata mature na.

ev technology maturity is subjective. ekanisa ehema mature wenakan public noda hitiyoth kiyatawath oka eliyata enne na.
1800s ICE engine thiyena wahanath ehenam okkoma features ekka 'mature' wenakan market ekata noda horse cart walin thama yanna wenna 1980s wage wenakan.

dan me waden EV walata thibba Reputation ekatath kela wela giyaa..

ev reputation ekata kela weemak na. technology eka gana hithana ayata development ekak witharai thiyenne. we have better EVs now than what we had 10 years ago.

Government wala inna gobbayo karana wada hindai Political Agendas hindai..

true. pushing EV by force isn't good. customer should have the freedom.

Oka mulin karanna oni Public Transport Sector eka EV walata maaru karana eka. MRTs Buses etc. eeta passe Commercial transport then Consumer cars.

true. public transport EV or atleast Hybrid kalanam loku benefit ekak enawa.

 

[Draco Malfoy]

බැටරියේ තාක්ෂනය නිකන් හිටල වගේ තියෙන්නෙ... සයිස් එක වැඩි කරන්නම වෙනව කැපෑසිටි වැඩි කරනව නම්. ඒකනෙ කේස් එක. එක්කො ලිතියන් නැතුව වෙන අලුත් මූලද්‍රව්‍යයක් හොයා ගන්න වෙනව කැපෑසිටි වැඩි කරන්න නම්.

lithium battery wala lithium thiyenne poddai, godak thiyenawa kiyanne cobolt, nickel, iron wage ewa. e cobolt wage ewata thama ara child labour thiyena african continent eka mines walin enawa kiyana case eka thiyenne. ekanisa godak aya dan cobolt ain karagena yanawa. nickel wage ewata shift wela. issarahata lesiyen manufacture karanna puluwan sodium-ion battery ehema enawa. ewain owage case adu wennawa.

but battery tech issarahata hoda wenawa misak adu weemak na but petrol or diesel meeta wada eha yanne na. dead end.

චාජින් පොයින්ට් අඩු සීන් එක තමයි අනික් කාරනේ. අනික දුර ගමනක් යනව නම් EV car හරියන්නෙ නෑ නේහ්.... trinco trip එකක් වගේ ගිහින් එන්න බයයි නේහ්... ඒකයි සීන් එක.

ow. danata thiyena limitations ekka samahara ayata EV hariyanne na. eyalata ICE or hybrid thama hariyanne. but EVs only get better, issarahata enna enna develop wenawa.

eeta kalin Hydrogen Tech eka issarahata ey wage.. ICE Engine techma use karannath puluwanne..

nope. hydrogen for cars is insanely bad choice.
just think about hydrogen manufacturing, storing, transporting, dispensing in fuel stations. now think you have to do all those things keeping the hydrogen in minus celcius and highly presurized reinforced tanks, tubes.
shed ekata gihin winadiyen tank eka refill wenawa arenna anith hama aspect ekenma hydrogen bad decision.

hydrogen for long haul prime movers, catepillars wage ewata hoda wei for next 30 years wage. eita passe ewath EV karanna puluwan wei.

hydrogen hodatama set wenne large ships, planes walata. e dekata mama hithanne na next 100 years battery tech eka hadanna puluwan wei kiyala. ships & planes walata hydrogen supiri.

ඔව්. මාත් දැක්ක Toyota ල පට්ට Hydrogen engine එකක් හදල කියල. හැබැයි Disadvantage වගේකුත් තියෙනව කියල තිබ්බ.. බලමු....

no. toyota mirai eka epic fail. mama udin damma some reasons why hydrogen cars is one of the most stupidest ideas.

 

[Nidarshana_k]

What is the difference between a cactus and most EV owners?
….with the cactus, the pricks are on the outside.

ammo ykow savage