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[Emios]

they are not inherently mara.. clinging to them is mara

khandha mara
klesha mara

Im astonished you say like this.those are secondary results.rupaya itself is mara,budda says that to radha thero in its discussion

 

[nuwan9999]

they are not inherently mara.. clinging to them is mara

khandha mara
klesha mara

Yes, this is actually stated at the end of the Sutta. This is the problem when people read half of a Sutta and take what they like to take.

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Im astonished you say like this.those are secondary results.rupaya itself is mara,budda says that to radha thero in its discussion

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[Emios]

Yes, this is actually stated at the end of the Sutta. This is the problem when people read half of a Sutta and take what they like to take.

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clinging is the trap to sansara.but form itself is mara.

 

[ek_rosh]

Im astonished you say like this.those are secondary results.rupaya itself is mara,budda says that to radha thero in its discussion

i have read several ways how this one has been interpreted. another way that rupa called mara is becuase its dying nature..

 

[Emios]

i have read several ways how this one has been interpreted. another way that rupa called mara is becuase its dying nature..

Form itself is mara dying or not dying is our interpretation

 

[nuwan9999]

clinging is the trap to sansara.but form itself is mara.

Cannot agree, 5 aggregates themselves cannot be mara without clinging.

 

[Emios]

Cannot agree, 5 aggregates themselves cannot be mara without clinging.

The moment you identify it as 5 aggregates are mara.”I”is born

 

[ek_rosh]

Form itself is mara dying or not dying is our interpretation

buddha has said multiple places, rupa is not the problem.

this Radha is prutakjana...rupa referred here could most probably be upadhana-rupa. Buddha has omitted upadhana part in many places.

 

[Emios]

buddha has said multiple places, rupa is not the problem.

this Radha is prutakjana...rupa referred here could most probably be upadhana-rupa. Buddha has omitted upadhana part in many places.

What to be taken as rupa without i,of course this is told to pruthakjana and to us.all we can see is updana rupa.and tripitaka is one of them

 

[Blair Solari]

රූපය පිරිසිද දැකීම තමයි රූප නිරෝධය

රූපයක් නෙමෙයි..
රුප්පන ස්වභාවය

 

[nuwan9999]

The moment you identify it as 5 aggregates are mara.”I”is born

Don't think that's correct, 5 aggregates + avidya/thrushna where "I" is born, 5 aggregates themselves has nothing to do with "I"

 

[Emios]

Don't think that's correct, 5 aggregates + avidya/thrushna where "I" is born, 5 aggregates themselves has nothing to do with "I"

How do you talk about 5 aggregates without an i? The moment you talk about 5 agreegates you are in maras land

 

[nuwan9999]

How do you talk about 5 aggregates without an i? The moment you talk about 5 agreegates you are in maras land

This is what you need to learn properly, "sense something" is one thing "I sense something" is something else.

 

[Emios]

This is what you need to learn properly, "sense something" is one thing "I sense something" is something else.

What are the 5 agrragtaes that ‘exists’ beyond you?or when you disappear do they exist as standalone

 

[ek_rosh]

What to be taken as rupa without i,of course this is told to pruthakjana and to us.all we can see is updana rupa.and tripitaka is one of them

concept (tripitaka) is not wrong. clinging to it with wrong view is the problem. buddha has also used concepts.

 

[Emios]

concept (tripitaka) is not wrong. clinging to it with wrong view is the problem. buddha has also used concepts.

Again form is rupaya.and tripataka itself is a form,and form is maraya

 

[ek_rosh]

Again form is rupaya.and tripataka itself is a form,and form is maraya

tripitak is not a form...tripitaka is a mental construction/concept/conventional reality created caused by rupa and other factors

 

[Emios]

tripitak is not a form...tripitaka is a mental construction/concept/conventional reality created caused by rupa and other factors

Realy?not only rupaya maraya. Perception,vincyanaya all maraya

 

[nuwan9999]

What are the 5 agrragtaes that ‘exists’ beyond you?or when you disappear do they exist as standalone

Of course, isn't the state of "Arahath" just that?

 

[Emios]

Of course, isn't the state of "Arahath" just that?

Just what? So 5 aggregates exists as standalone entities?when i is gone?