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Mononoke

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3.5G,
You fail to see an important point here. Your God is perfectly fine with Muslims killing non-Muslims, that is a problem. A God of peace cannot say that, if your god thinks that violence is necessary then what hope is there for men. Furthermore, these statements are extremely incendiary. there is no reason to beleive that the Medina verses apply to only what happened in Medina. And even if there is one, people aren't listening.
 
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3.5G,
You fail to see an important point here. Your God is perfectly fine with Muslims killing non-Muslims, that is a problem. A God of peace cannot say that, if your god thinks that violence is necessary then what hope is there for men. Furthermore, these statements are extremely incendiary. there is no reason to beleive that the Medina verses apply to only what happened in Medina. And even if there is one, people aren't listening.

in Islam we are not allowed to kill any1, it was in the battle field where non muslim came to kill prophet.we can fight over injustice.
in quran its clearly mention...

in chapter number 5 verse no 32:


Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!.

in quran in mention as all mankind not specified as muslim/non muslims

enisa- yamek keneku pinisa ho bumiyehi awadek pinisa ho nowa keneku maruwahoth ohu siyalu minisun maru badumaya.
yameku keneku jiwath wannata salassanneda ohu siyalu minisun jiwath wannata salasu badumaya.
 

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Mononoke said:
3.5G,
You fail to see an important point here. Your God is perfectly fine with Muslims killing non-Muslims, that is a problem. A God of peace cannot say that, if your god thinks that violence is necessary then what hope is there for men. Furthermore, these statements are extremely incendiary. there is no reason to beleive that the Medina verses apply to only what happened in Medina. And even if there is one, people aren't listening.


in Islam we are not allowed to kill any1, it was in the battle field where non muslim came to kill prophet.we can fight over injustice.
in quran its clearly mention...

in chapter number 5 verse no 32:


Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!.

in quran in mention as all mankind not specified as muslim/non muslims

enisa- yamek keneku pinisa ho bumiyehi awadek pinisa ho nowa keneku maruwahoth ohu siyalu minisun maru badumaya.
yameku keneku jiwath wannata salassanneda ohu siyalu minisun jiwath wannata salasu badumaya.

All you are saying is Muslims will never start a war, just end it. You still haven't responded about martyrdom in the Ku'ran.
 

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All you are saying is Muslims will never start a war, just end it. You still haven't responded about martyrdom in the Ku'ran.


Islam Kiyanney Aagamak Kiyala kiyana eken oyala Adahas karanwa wage Palliyatama wela Lagala innawa ho.. kasada bandinney nathuwa Deviyan wenuwen kiyagena Gedarin Pawle Ayagen wenwelaa Innaw kiyana Eka newei.. Islam Kiyanney Life style Ekak.. A'ke wiyawasthawak thiyenawa A' wiyawasthawata Anuwa Kenek Mey Life Style Ekata tharajanayak wenawanam A'ka nathi karanna Enawanam A' wiyawasthawa kiyanwa A'wenuwen Hamudawa Yodawala yudda karannata A' balawegawalata wiruddawa nathuwa Nikan inna thanaka Eka paaratama Yudda karanney nahaney..

Islam Agama Oyala Oyalage Aagam walata sasandala balala thamai oyala Islam Aagama waradi kiyala Kiyanney A'kenma peynawa oyala thawa ma Hariyata Islam Aagama kiyana Ekata Hari Definition Ekawath Danney naha kiyana Eka.. Nathinam Islam Aagamata wiruddawa Ena Sathuru Nonmuslimwa Yuddayedi Dakina thanadi maranna Kiyala Kiyana wachane Oyala Waradawa hithanna Wenney nahaney...:)
 

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    ^^I agree with gazaly and njsa

    what people do is they take a quran verse and show others here see islam tells to kill non believers !!! but they r 100% wrong they are failing to see in which circumstances islam tells u to fight ?


    3.5G,
    You fail to see an important point here. Your God is perfectly fine with Muslims killing non-Muslims, that is a problem. A God of peace cannot say that, if your god thinks that violence is necessary then what hope is there for men. Furthermore, these statements are extremely incendiary. there is no reason to beleive that the Medina verses apply to only what happened in Medina. And even if there is one, people aren't listening.


    1 - Now ur statement states that If any army aanounce war on an islamic country then they should not do any thing they should stay calm untill they get killed so after that u will agree
    "Yes islam is a religion peace cuz they remained in peace until they get killed "

    Is this what u expect ?:oo:


    Two questions for u ?

    1- Will u be calm if another country provoke war on srilanka and kill people ?

    2- If another country provoke war on srilanka and that country is 100% sure we r going to invade srilanka then what will be ur advice to our srilanken army ?

     

    Mononoke

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    ^^I agree with gazaly and njsa

    what people do is they take a quran verse and show others here see islam tells to kill non believers !!! but they r 100% wrong they are failing to see in which circumstances islam tells u to fight ?





    1 - Now ur statement states that If any army aanounce war on an islamic country then they should not do any thing they should stay calm untill they get killed so after that u will agree
    "Yes islam is a religion peace cuz they remained in peace until they get killed "

    Is this what u expect ?:oo:


    Two questions for u ?

    1- Will u be calm if another country provoke war on srilanka and kill people ?

    2- If another country provoke war on srilanka and that country is 100% sure we r going to invade srilanka then what will be ur advice to our srilanken army ?

    If Islam is a religion of peace then the Kuran should have nothing to do with war. What is the point of an omnipotent god if he requires you to kill.
    There is a fundamental difference between what I think is right and what your God decrees as right. When your god makes an absolute statement about a 'just war' it becomes an universal excuse to murder in his name. You cannot excuse yourself saying there are particular circumstances for a 'just war', people always manage to interpret the circumstances to their convenience. If you don't beleive me why don't you ask all the people who died in Pakistan yesterday. Or better yet ask this kid, if he is still alive.
    suicideBomberKid.jpg
     

    njsa

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    If Islam is a religion of peace then the Kuran should have nothing to do with war. What is the point of an omnipotent god if he requires you to kill.
    There is a fundamental difference between what I think is right and what your God decrees as right. When your god makes an absolute statement about a 'just war' it becomes an universal excuse to murder in his name. You cannot excuse yourself saying there are particular circumstances for a 'just war', people always manage to interpret the circumstances to their convenience. If you don't beleive me why don't you ask all the people who died in Pakistan yesterday. Or better yet ask this kid, if he is still alive.
    suicideBomberKid.jpg
    this image has taken in a protest.see it agein.and there is very less chance this kid alive because israili shells killing hundreds and thousands,.

    god never asked to kill any1 but can fight over injustice.
    if any1 want to fight what can do other than fight back.
     
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    this image has taken in a protest.see it agein.and there is very less chance this kid alive because israili shells killing hundreds and thousands,.

    god never asked to kill any1 but can fight over injustice.
    if any1 want to fight what can do other than fight back.

    Finally you told the truth :):):):):) fight back haaa
    your god did not teach you how to tolerate thats why you people try to fight back.. very asamed on you muslims..:(:(:(:(:(:(:(



     

    Mononoke

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    You can say what ever you want, but that kid is glorifying suicide bombings and the senseless slaughter of civilians. And their are alot of Muslims who are fine with that because apparently martyrdom is oneway ticket to heaven. Not that the kid can understand the gravity of his gesture, he is simply being herded along. Of course you will say the Israel started it, but that hardly exonerates suicide bombings.

    The point is that your god did ask you to kill. While you personally might not invoke that verse to incite violence, but there are a lot of people who do it.
     

    njsa

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    Finally you told the truth :):):):):) fight back haaa
    your god did not teach you how to tolerate thats why you people try to fight back.. very asamed on you muslims..:(:(:(:(:(:(:(



    it was the last option.this is the way u understand!! what to do.did u get anything from what many post regard what quran telling about a killing a innocent human being,
    this is what quran is telling about killing a human.
    if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.
    and i meant fight back is "SELF DEFENCE"

    i dont know y people act blind even thogh they know how many innocent muslims being killed everyday. if u shame on us,y didnt u protest aginst the government on the time of war.how u going to justify that!!

    wadi bana.
     

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    You can say what ever you want, but that kid is glorifying suicide bombings and the senseless slaughter of civilians. And their are alot of Muslims who are fine with that because apparently martyrdom is oneway ticket to heaven. Not that the kid can understand the gravity of his gesture, he is simply being herded along. Of course you will say the Israel started it, but that hardly exonerates suicide bombings.

    The point is that your god did ask you to kill. While you personally might not invoke that verse to incite violence, but there are a lot of people who do it.

    here we go agein.......!!
     

    njsa

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    some people kill innocent people
    for money,
    some for power,
    some for land,
    some for religion,
    nothing can be justify in islam.
     

    zues

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    it was the last option.this is the way u understand!! what to do.did u get anything from what many post regard what quran telling about a killing a innocent human being,
    this is what quran is telling about killing a human.
    if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.
    and i meant fight back is "SELF DEFENCE"

    i dont know y people act blind even thogh they know how many innocent muslims being killed everyday. if u shame on us,y didnt u protest aginst the government on the time of war.how u going to justify that!!

    wadi bana.

    KILLING PEOPLE PEOPLE FOR SELF DEFENCE..... :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

    THESE PROBLEMS WOULD OVER IF ALLAHA DOESNT GIVE BABIES FOR OTHER RELIGIOUS MOTHERS...:):):):):):)

    MAY BE ALLAHA CANT SEE THE FUTURE OR HE LIKES TO PLAY WITH YOU
     

    njsa

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    y didnt u protest aginst the government on the time of war.how u going to justify that!!

    wadi bana.
     

    zues

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    WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOUR MOTHER OR FATHER FIGHT AGAINST YOU.... WILL YOU KILL THEM FOR SELF DEFENCE...:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
     

    zues

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    y didnt u protest aginst the government on the time of war.how u going to justify that!!

    wadi bana.

    GOVERNMENT LAW IS NOT THE LAW OF MY RELEGION, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I PROTEST THE WAR WOULD THEY GONNA STOP THAT HAAAA...

    WADI BANA IS BETTER THAN YOUR HARMFULL THOUGHTS..