Top 10 Quotes from Quran about Women

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Help me to understand your concept: A child is ready to marry at the age of six, suitable for sex with a very old man by nine, then becomes unsuitable for sex and marriage by the age of sixteen?
Explains why it is ok for a 17 year old girl to become a widow at the age of 17 years and remain so.

This woman is mad. She is either completely ignorant of the concept of puberty, which I highly doubt, or she refuses to acknowledge reality.
 

sudunone

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it was their choice. can u tell me is it ok that buddah left his wife on the day she gave birth to their baby????????????/

everything happened for a reason.

So you think everything has a reason.

As someone has already explained, yes, it was ok for Bodhisatva to leave the wife and baby like that. On one hand, he was going for a greater good for many people. On the other hand, the wife and the baby were in a palace with enough people and means to care for them.

So, what was the reason for Muhammad(PBUH) to marry the nine year old girl? You had mentioned that it is to prove a misconception that people shouldn't marry daughters of friends. Is it true?
 

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No, I can judge. Because I beleive that there is a thing called puberty, which is not a cultural construct, where a human being reaches physical sexual maturity. And for the overwhelming number of girls this age is 13-14. A girls body, especially her labia and ovaries, is not fully developed until then. Sexual relations with a pre-pubescent girl is physically traumatic to her.



Nonsense, life expectancy was lower back then. Most people died around 45-50. And size of the grave has nothing to do with people being large. What mythical wonderland do you live in.

yes life expectancy was lower comparing to now.so age 9/10 would have been as matured age.so even the puberty is also happen at lower age comparing to now.u dont compare that age with a 9 year old srilankan girl. even now in western countries and arab countries there is a big different comparing to our country.
 

sudunone

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This woman is mad. She is either completely ignorant of the concept of puberty, which I highly doubt, or she refuses to acknowledge reality.

I think she doesn't read posts or has some problem understanding written material. (Word blindness) ara girawa saha kunu goda asseth ringagena hitiyaa e kathawa kiyawanne nathuwa.
 

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So you think everything has a reason.

As someone has already explained, yes, it was ok for Bodhisatva to leave the wife and baby like that. On one hand, he was going for a greater good for many people. On the other hand, the wife and the baby were in a palace with enough people and means to care for them.

So, what was the reason for Muhammad(PBUH) to marry the nine year old girl? You had mentioned that it is to prove a misconception that people shouldn't marry daughters of friends. Is it true?

it was command by allah to remove a misconception.(that time people didnt marry the daughter of their best friend and father of aysha was his best companion.) prophet married her to remove this misconception and age was not matter at that time becoz it was the age of a girl who get marries. not like now.

as buddah left the palace didnt she suffer....didnt that kid suffer...
it was ok because they were in palace. but she was not happy and suffered a lot missing her husband. if a middle class man leave a family and become a monk..will u alove??
also budda married at the age of 16...if u compare it with now can u agree???
 

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    who decide the age???????12 - 14
    there is no any age limit for that.
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    dear njsa,,do you know the meaning of puberty??it means the appearance of secondary sexual characteristics of a girl or a boy...it's during this period that males starts to make sperms and females starts to ovulate....and it's only then our sexual hormones starts to flow...and that so called puberty doesn't occur from birth.it has a certain age interval for boys and girls world wide..(age interval which your "god" has put:dull:) and age 9 is NOT an age for a puberty of a girl...try to get it to your head if you really want some good conversation rather than following your "bush" theory...whether it's present,future or even 1400 years ago,it the same....and if you are saying that it was not the same 1400 years ago,then that means your god has no rules......

    and a guy soon after puberty can make children as long as he gets sperms,,but a girl just can't do the same becuase she can't bare that load for 10 months....(now tell stupidly that 1400 years ago,duration of pregnancy for females was 2months..:baffled:)

    typical muslim argument.....lot of bullshits and "IFs" in order to defend.....:)
     

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    This woman is mad. She is either completely ignorant of the concept of puberty, which I highly doubt, or she refuses to acknowledge reality.

    i can acknowledge who is ignorant and rejecting the reality. its stupid to compare that time and now.
     

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    it was command by allah to remove a misconception.(that time people didnt marry the daughter of their best friend and father of aysha was his best companion.) prophet married her to remove this misconception and age was not matter at that time becoz it was the age of a girl who get marries. not like now.

    Wow...what a nice reason...can't this be a made up reason to fool others???because no one can see god and everybody was following mohammed blindly....he can very easily trick the others.......
     

    sudunone

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    it was command by allah to remove a misconception.(that time people didnt marry the daughter of their best friend and father of aysha was his best companion.) prophet married her to remove this misconception and age was not matter at that time becoz it was the age of a girl who get marries. not like now.

    as buddah left the palace didnt she suffer....didnt that kid suffer...
    it was ok because they were in palace. but she was not happy and suffered a lot missing her husband. if a middle class man leave a family and become a monk..will u alove??
    also budda married at the age of 16...if u compare it with now can u agree???

    Yashodhara understood her husband's motive. It is said that although she was in the palace, she adopted a life style similar to him-in robe, diet etc.

    Yes, anyone who wishes to be ordained and follow the path to nibbana should be allowed to. It is the easiest way to end sansara. Being married slows a person.

    16 is an age a person can have sexual relationships. In today's society, a 16 year old cannot support a family-they don't have enough qualifications for a job. By the age of 16, Prince Siddhartha had completed his studies and living expenses were not an issue.
     

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    age was not matter at that time becoz it was the age of a girl who get marries. not like now.

    You didn't answer my previous question. To say this was usual for that period, you should give evidence of others marrying girls 6-9yrs of age. At least from quran if you can't try history books.
     

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    This woman is mad. She is either completely ignorant of the concept of puberty, which I highly doubt, or she refuses to acknowledge reality.

    no simply she was too small to understand what was going on...imagine a 4th grader...what she will know about marriage???...poor thing......don't worry,these muslims will come up with plenty of reasons to justify......:nerd:

    by the way,in ancient times people were more immature than today.they were worshiping sun,moon,plants,,ect ect everything.:nerd: ..your theories are only suited for your own type of people njsa....:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     

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    it was their choice. can u tell me is it ok that buddah left his wife on the day she gave birth to their baby????????????/

    everything happened for a reason.

    wow,since when you started to think that everything happens for a reason:lol:..??
    what is the reason for the creation of this universe??what is the reason for creating human??you would say that it's a test,,,but then whats the reason for the test???whats the reason behind the creation of Allah??ect ect ect:rofl::confused::P:P
     

    suraj1132

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    defenietly not becoz now the time has been changed. prophet married aAysha raliallahu anhu to remove misconception as that time no one married the daughter of his best friend.father of aysha (raliallahu anhu) was his best companion and Allah ordered him to marry her. kids in srilanka arnt matured enough comparing to western countries so every thing depend on country and culture.
    also there are many couples who dont care about the age and just getting married even now....can u deny that???????

    njsa,what will you say if all of a sudden,Allah orders me to marry your 1 year old daughter...will you let me???(but ill come after another 30 years for that because im still too young for it....:))
     
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    wow,since when you started to think that everything happens for a reason:lol:..??
    what is the reason for the creation of this universe??what is the reason for creating human??you would say that it's a test,,,but then whats the reason for the test???whats the reason behind the creation of Allah??ect ect ect:rofl::confused::P:P


    Suraj you are athiest i hope.My first question to u will be: "What is the definition of God?" For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities - therefore he does not believe in such a god. Similarly a Muslim too does not and should not believe in such false gods.for eg.buddha we will never consider him as God.as he is a human being like us.

    If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning...like that we could have not come just without some super power..
     

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    it's soo nice and fun to have a little discussion like this with my muslim friends...:)need to go now...will continue it tomorrow......

    may you have more and more blind faiths towards the inexistent God!!!
    (but atleast once in awhile try to come out of that black box of religion and see the world in an open mind......)
    ALLAHAFIZ.......
     
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    it's soo nice and fun to have a little discussion like this with my muslim friends...:)need to go now...will continue it tomorrow......

    may you have more and more blind faiths towards the inexistent God!!!
    (but atleast once in awhile try to come out of that black box of religion and see the world in an open mind......)
    ALLAHAFIZ.......

    HAA! HAA U HAVE NO ANSWER IT SEEMS.....YOU GET BORING HAA!!..I WOULD LIKE TO TELL U SAME THING....MAY ALLAH SHOW THE RIGHT PATH FOR U ALL.AND WISDOM TO U....
     

    Wal Bada

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  • oh wat a stupid!!..i was talking about time of maturity..
    How many girls you see who are sexually matured at 9 years? That is after 1400 years of secular trend (if you know what it is). It's a joke. Aisha by no means was a mature woman by 9 years of age.

    I was not talking abt maths here,i was only telling even he married 40 years old lady,you will never marry a 40 years widow. if you have desire of sex,u will prefer only young girl. im sorry to know that i have given reply to an layman.
    He married because that woman was a very wealthy widow. Did Muhammed marry a 40 year old poor woman? Bah! there goes the argument. But does that make marrying a 9-yr-old correct?

    here u are insulting mohammed,
    He deserves what it because he has humphed a child. We never insult Jesus, Mahaveera or guru Dev.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • in islam there is no any age mentioned that at what age a girl or bot should marry.there are two things consider.
    Mental maturity and pyhsical maturity.
    A 6 year old is mentally and physically mature to marry> Give me a life. :rofl:

    so it was depend on that time and based on her. there is no exactly age mentioned anywhere so still its not sure about her age.
    Lying won't rescure your prophet from this charge. It's proven that he married Aisha at 6 years. There's direct evidence and indirect evidence both

    if both like each other and have parents permission whats the wrong with age.
    9 year old do understand family, sex and responsibility. ROFLMAO

    didnt lord buddha married at the age of 16?????? and left his wife on the time she gave birth to their baby. if u tell this to anyone they may feel it is very rude...isnt it??????
    No it's prince Siddhartha who did that. Prince Siddhartha became Buddha at 35 years of age. What ever Buddha did has to be judged after what price sidhartha did after enlightment. Before that he was only gifted human being, who also had shortcoming, desires etc. But after becoming Buddha all of those desires and short comings ceased. BTW Prince Siddhartha and Princess Yasodhara were both 16, (Not 50 and 9 FTR). They are in no menas children as Aisha was.


    i read about her story how she grieved when her husband left her with the new born. i dont want to insult ur religion and i respect jesus alaisalam,ebraham,noah and budda as well.
    if in todays life if any one leave the wife and kids will this society accept it?????
    The same is done by monks still today. But they are highly respected, accpeted and succesful. Te grievances are for a small time. Buddhists know the value of somebody attaining monkhood, that gives them pleasure to overcome the grievances

    see everything judging by society.
    Tell me when murder was made right judging by the scoiety? There are some deeds universally accepted as wrong. Child molesting is one of them.

    even its allowed gay marriage in western world now.
    But they don't allow gay marriages for children. You get the point?

    who is limiting everything??????????
    There is a thing called government, who we vote to represent us (Sorry, not sent by Allah). It has to bridge other countries with its people. So some universally accepted laws are agreed upon. . . except uslim countries.

    if any girl married at the age of 16 now will u accept.........
    Age of consent for sexual intercourse in SL is 16. So what is the big deal?

    there are people who married at small age...in india.,nepal still these types of things are happening.
    Still does it make the act correct? In every countries murders are also taking place. Is murder right then?

    because he married a girl with her will and her parents u cant judge or insult him.
    Why not? The problem is children are not mature enough to do it.

    can u ignore alll the good deeds he did simply telling this.this is the only thing people can talk about prophet(if they agree it means that they should agree with all)or u will bring quran verses out on context.
    Do we talk same about other prophets? No. Because they were not child molesters. Child molesters deserves the dustbin of the history
    all the scientist who comment on islam and quran are bull shit and no sense.
    what to do brother....ohoma yamu....:no:
    Typical brain washed, muslim idiot. There is much point in talking to a tree than to your self.
     
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    How many girls you see who are sexually matured at 9 years? That is after 1400 years of secular trend (if you know what it is). It's a joke. Aisha by no means was a mature woman by 9 years of age.



    how do u know which girl is getting matured at what age in each and every world.

    He married because that woman was a very wealthy widow. Did Muhammed marry a 40 year old poor woman? Bah! there goes the argument. But does that make marrying a 9-yr-old correct?

    haa!ha of course she was wealthy, but he didnt go and marry her but only katheejah wanted to marry him bec mohammed was a honest person at that time.and she thought he can maintain her's wealth honestly. i dont know from where you get this false matters.

    He deserves what it because he has humphed a child. We never insult Jesus, Mahaveera or guru Dev.

    OH..your people can even rape and abuse a baby, but cant a person marry 9 years old with the knowledge of all human.

     

    Wal Bada

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  • How do u know which girl is getting matured at what age in each and every world.
    The menarche in USA is 10-13 in 21th century. In les developed countries like ours and Arab its 11-15. In poor, under developed places like Somalia menarche occurs around 15 years. And if you have any idea what is secular trend, it will tell you that in the past the age of menarche was even higher. And menarche does not mean sexual maturity as well. The bottom line is at 9 years no girl is sexually mature.

    haa!ha of course she was wealthy, but he didnt go and marry her but only katheejah wanted to marry him bec mohammed was a honest person at that time
    Say who? Quran! Any other source please.

    and she thought he can maintain her's wealth honestly. i dont know from where you get this false matters.
    So did he ever marry a 40 year old poor ugly woman? No it seems. It's evident that if Khadeeja was not wealthy, Muhammed would not have married her.

    OH..your people can even rape and abuse a baby,
    1. we don't do it.
    2. If we do it, we are in jail
    2. We are not prophets, so even if it happens, no one will follow us

    but cant a person marry 9 years old with the knowledge of all human.
    That is child sexual abuse from definition. There's nothing different of raping a child. Muhammed raped Aisha.