Life After Death : What is the reality ?

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No,IM not ready to prove you now unless first u prove with O/L chemistry book as you said(1st of all no chemistry book in OL,only science book)...your purpose is coming out to the light now,you just keep on rejecting whatever we say based on O/L book..NOW prove with OL book..

and u said muhammed had contact with Greeks and indians.i am waiting for the proof for that as well.

Blah blah blah. The bull shit comes where reasons fails. There is chemistry taught in O/L. It falls under general science. But it is chemistry none the less. Does it matter if I use O/L chemistry or A/L or whatever.there is no gaseous form of NaCL, your god cannot make rainwater salty as claims to able to do so.
 
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Blah blah blah. The bull shit comes where reasons fails. There is chemistry taught in O/L. It falls under general science. But it is chemistry none the less. Does it matter if I use O/L chemistry or A/L or whatever.there is no gaseous form of NaCL, your god cannot make rainwater salty as claims to able to do so.

YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION, I ASKED YOU TO PROVE WITH O/L BOOK.WHY RELUCTANT? WHERE IS PROOF FOR MOHAMMED HAD CONTACT WITH GREEKS AND INDIANS.
IT SHOWS U PEOPLE ARE LIARS TRYING TO MELAINE THE THINGS AS IF QURAN IS WRONG WITH YOUR FALSE WORDS&PROOF..


IF CHEMISTRY IS SAME AS SCIENCE BOOK, ASK SL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THE NAME AS CHEMISTRY BOOK..lol!!
 

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IF CHEMISTRY IS SAME AS SCIENCE BOOK, ASK SL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THE NAME AS CHEMISTRY BOOK..lol!!

This statement shows that you are an utter ignoramus. So by this assertion Science and Chemistry are mutually exclusive. And what do you mean by prove by O/L chemistry book. Please shut up, and go back your cave.
 
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This statement shows that you are an utter ignoramus. So by this assertion Science and Chemistry are mutually exclusive. And what do you mean by prove by O/L chemistry book. Please shut up, and go back your cave.

Your answer shows you are on the TOP of frustration.Take it easy ya..

You will never beat Allah's Book, Allah him self challenge all the human being in the Quran that No body will be able to find any errors in that....This is Miracles of Miracle of our Quran...Have a nice day!!!
 
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hey buddy like people nam eyi sattunta kata karanna beri :rofl: dekama compare karanna be

Sattunta Katha Karanna Puluwani. Yes. Animals can speak. But their organs of speech are not as much developed as those of humans. So, their speech is limited. Example - haven't you seen dogs convey ideas using their vocal chords?
 

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  • YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION, I ASKED YOU TO PROVE WITH O/L BOOK.WHY RELUCTANT? WHERE IS PROOF FOR MOHAMMED HAD CONTACT WITH GREEKS AND INDIANS.
    IT SHOWS U PEOPLE ARE LIARS TRYING TO MELAINE THE THINGS AS IF QURAN IS WRONG WITH YOUR FALSE WORDS&PROOF..

    IF CHEMISTRY IS SAME AS SCIENCE BOOK, ASK SL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THE NAME AS CHEMISTRY BOOK..lol!!
    It looks like that you have not even educated up to OLs. OL does not have seperate subjects as Chemistry, Physics, Botany, blah blah. All above, botany and environmental science comes in one book called Science, or more correctly Applied Science
     

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    You will never beat Allah's Book, Allah him self challenge all the human being in the Quran that No body will be able to find any errors in that....This is Miracles of Miracle of our Quran..

    But siraj said that Allah's Koran has permitted masturbation.

    But a little later, siraj said Allah's Koran has not permitted it. Which is correct?

    (My font here is Comic Sans, because this is so comical!)
     

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    and u said muhammed had contact with Greeks and indians.i am waiting for the proof for that as well
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    You may be right. Maybe, Muhammed had no contacts with the outside world, living in a vast dessert.

    Muhammed lived about 1400 years ago. Arabs were uncivilised at that time.

    But Indians and Greeks had a civilization many many thousands of years before.

    If Muhammed had contacts with Indians and Greeks, he should have learnt more civilized ways and taught more civilized lessons to his followers.
     
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    But siraj said that Allah's Koran has permitted masturbation.

    But a little later, siraj said Allah's Koran has not permitted it. Which is correct?

    (My font here is Comic Sans, because this is so comical!)

    [SIZE=-1]Question: Is masturbation haram? The reason im asking this cuz i have so many friends they some says its haram some says its a natural thing . Its keep you away from bad deeds.. My second question is If Someone is Fasting and he gets horny some how "as u know sexual urges are natural and come and go ". So doing masterbating while on fasting is it bad or it doenst matter ? some ppl say it doenst matter cuz its a natural thing , some says its matter your fast broke if u do the masterbation ??[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Answer:[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]1. The fiqh regarding masturbation may be found below.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]2. The very meaning of Islam is submission: we submit our bodies, hearts, minds, and souls to Allah Most High, out of thankfulness for the blessing and life-giving light of His religion.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Allah tests our slavehood. Many people have 'natural' tendencies and urges towards that which Allah has declared unlawful. This is our test with Allah Most High.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Allah Most High said in the Qur'an,[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]"And the soul and He who perfected it[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]And inspired it (with conscience of) what is wrong and right for it.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]He is indeed successful who purifies it,[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]And he is indeed a failure who stunts it." [Qur'an, 91:9-10][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=-1]The Ruling on Masturbation: Prohibitively Disliked & Sinful[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Masturbation is sinful, being prohibitively disliked, because of its many personal and societal ill-effects that are known and recognised in sane traditional societies and by balanced people the world over.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]As for modern 'expert' opinions that there is 'nothing wrong with it,' these are the opinions of the same people who see nothing wrong with fornication, nudity, and most other personal and social depravity.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The early Muslims used to say, "The one who weds his hand is accursed." (Fath al-Qadir)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Its prohibition was established by Allah Most High's words, "Those who guard their private parts, except from their spouses..." [Qur'an, 23: 5][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Thus, the general ruling regarding sexual activity is that it is impermissible, except through the particular channel that Allah permitted, out of His tremendous wisdom and mercy for His creation.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The rulings of the Shariah are for the worldly and eternal benefit of humanity, as a manifestation of the tremendous mercy of Allah, for Allah Himself is absolutely free of any need. Rather, it is we who need guidance, to give true joy and illumination to our lives in this world and the next.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]So, When Could Masturbation Possibly Be Allowed?[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Masturbation is only allowed in the very rare situation where:[/SIZE]


    • [SIZE=-1]if the person did not do this, they genuinely fear that they would fall into actual zina (i.e. unlawful sexual intercourse), because of their uncontrollable desire, and[/SIZE]
    • [SIZE=-1]they are unable to marry, and[/SIZE]
    • [SIZE=-1]have taken all reasonable means to lessen their passion (such as fasting, lowering their gaze, avoiding meat and dairy products, avoiing those things that stir their desires, such as bad company, spending unnecessary time outdoors, especially in public places such as shopping malls where there is fitna, avoiding watching tv and surfing the internet, etc).[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=-1]In such cases, it is not haram because of the principle that, "If there are only two options, but harmful, then one takes the lesser of the two harms to avoid the greater one."[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]However, when there are third options, it remains impermissible to take the lesser harm, such as masturbation.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Even when the conditions outlined above are met, it would only not be impermissible to the extent necessary to quieten one's sexual desire, not for sexual gratification. Otherwise, it would remain sinful. These conditions are extremely rare.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1][derived from: Ibn Abidin's Hashiya, al-Lakhnawi's Naf` al-Mufti wa'l Sa'il, and al-Nahlawi's Durar al-Mubaha, Kamal ibn al-Humam's Fath al-Qadir][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]As for the fast: masturbation that leads to ejaculation invalidates the fast.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]And Allah knows best.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Answered by Sidi Faraz Rabbani of the Hanafi fiqh list.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-2][Sidi Faraz Rabbani is a student of Hanafi fiqh based in Amman, Jordan. He is originally from Toronto, Canada. He has upcoming translations in Hanafi fiqh, including "Ilm al-Hal: An Essential Hanafi Primer" and Imam al-Shurunbulali's "Ascent to Felicity" (Maraqi al-Sa`adat). He also teaches Hanafi fiqh texts to students in Arabic and in English.][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=-1]Question: Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi in "The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam" writes that Imam Ahmad (Allah be well pleased with him) regarded semen as an excretion of the body like other excreta and permitted its expulsion as blood letting is permitted. However, Shaykh Yusuf then goes on to say that Hanbali jurists permit masturbation only under two conditions: first, the fear of committing fornication or adultery, and second, not having the means to marry. This begs the question...Is masturbation permissable in the Hanbali madhhab, and if so, is it qualified by any conditions?[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Answer:[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Before talking about the issue of masturbation, it is appropriate to first mention the rulings regarding people getting married.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1][Marriage in general][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]In general, people fall under three categories:[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1](1) recommended (sunna)-- for those who feel sexual desire (shahwah) but do not fear that this will drive them to fornicate. This is applies to males and females alike, and even to men too poor to be able to provide for maintenance and upkeep. This is an opinion stated by Imam Ahmad (Allah be pleased with him). It is better for someone who has sexual desire to be busy with marriage than seeking seclusion for works of worship.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1](2) obligatory (wajib)-- for those who fear that they will fornicate if they do not marry, whether male or female. The person does not have to be certain that they will fornicate, rather it suffices that they fear that they may if they do not marry. When someone in this situation must choose between making Hajj or marriage, marriage is given precedence to the Hajj because of the fear that by one will commit the unlawful by delaying marriage.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1](3) permissible (mubah)-- for someone who does not feel sexual desire, whether this has always been the case or their desire has left due to[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]sickness or old age. [Dar Al-Harb][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]In addition, marriage is haram in Dar Al-Harb unless there is legal necessity (durura).[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Legal necessity is defined as that the one's religion, life, mind, family & reputation, or property require it. It does not include that which removes difficulty from the above, which is called need (hajja), or that which makes the above nicer, which is luxury (tahsini).[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]In Dar Al-Harb it is permissible to marry when there is legal necessity.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]If someone marries in Dar Al-Harb while it is unlawful for him to do so, it is obligatory for to use some form of birth control; otherwise, it is recommended to do so.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1][Masturbation][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Regarding the position of the Hanbali madhhab regarding masturbation, Kashshaf Al-Qina` (6:125) indicates that whoever masturbates out of fear of committing fornication or fear for their body has done nothing wrong and is not punished if (and only if) he is unable to marry--even a slave girl--and if he was able to marry it is unlawful and he is entitled to punishment. This applies to men and women equally. The reason given is out of necessity (durara), which was mentioned above.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Please note that one of the conditions is that the person in question not even be able to marry a slave girl who is someone else's property, which means that any children would be born into slavery. What is significant here is that having your children born slaves is better than masturbation. This is not a light matter.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Also please note that provided there is someone that one could marry, masturbation is unlawful. No where does it say that the spouse has to be from the same culture, has to be a perfect match, or anything like that. As long as there is an upright marriageable Muslim it is unlawful, and if not punished in this world it surely is in the next. It goes back to availability, not economic stability, diploma, beauty, hair color, nationality, ethnicity or cultural origins. There are a lot of people who mix up necessity, need and luxury. This ruling is about necessity.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]In closing, we know that divorce is the most despicable of lawful things to Allah, whereas fornication is haram. Parents should keep this in mind before putting so many conditions that must be met before marriage, especially since anything that leads to the unlawful is itself unlawful.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]And Allah knows best.


    [/SIZE]
    Praise be to Allaah. Masturbation (for both men and women) is haraam (forbidden) in Islam based on the following evidence: First from the Qur’aan: Imam Shafi’i stated that masturbation is forbidden based on the following verses from the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning): "And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts). Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." 23.5-7

    more info visit here

    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/329/Masturbation
     
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    Siraj, we don't need this kind of long harangue. I only wanted to know whether Allah permitted it or not. If he has not permitted it, then I am sure, almost all Muslims (and non-Muslims as well), including you, will be punished and will be sent to hell. I am very sorry about you.

    Your body chemistry - hormones - demanded it. But Allah said, no, don't. Then the correct thing for Allah to do was not to create hormones in the first place. Why? Oh. Why did Allah create body hormones?
     

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    Muslim divorce

    [SIZE=-1]In closing, we know that divorce is the most despicable of lawful things to Allah, whereas fornication is haram. Parents should keep this in mind before putting so many conditions that must be met before marriage, especially since anything that leads to the unlawful is itself unlawful.[/SIZE]
    And Allah knows best.

    If you go to any Kathi court in our country, you will find a large crowd of Muslim men and women. They are there to get a divorce.

    Are you saying that Allah will punish all of them by sending them to hell?
     
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    still argueing with the copy paste quranic pandit ( or idiot? ) :P why dont you guys try teaching maths 2 a cow?? it will surely bring results!!
     

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    :D muslims:P.......why are you troubling them...ah????:no: why can't you just give these believers some f**king space!!!!:dull: (because they need it more than you and me to keep their faith going...) (btw remember,, it's the only true religion:rolleyes:..so please keep it that way)