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මාංශ භා නිර්මාංශ ආභාර Must read it And Undesrtand
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ඕකට කොයිල් බන්, ඕකා සිංහලවත් දන්නේ නැති පකිස්තාන් කාරයෙක්. ආගමෙන් එහා මොකුත් දන්නේවත් නැතුව ඇති.යන්තම් සුද්දට පින්සිද්ධ වෙන්න ඉන්ටෙර්නෙට් එකෙන් ඇවිත් අපිට බණ කියනවා.පව් ජීවිත
ඕකට කොයිල් බන්, ඕකා සිංහලවත් දන්නේ නැති පකිස්තාන් කාරයෙක්. ආගමෙන් එහා මොකුත් දන්නේවත් නැතුව ඇති.යන්තම් සුද්දට පින්සිද්ධ වෙන්න ඉන්ටෙර්නෙට් එකෙන් ඇවිත් අපිට බණ කියනවා.පව් ජීවිත
ලොල් අනේ මං ද මං ඉතින් දන්න හරිය කිව්ව අපේ උනුත් ඔලුව උඩ තියාගෙන විද්යාව හැදෑරුවට ඒකෙ රඟේ දන්නෙ ටික දෙනයි..එයින් එක්කෙනෙක් මහාචාර්ය නලින් ද සිල්වා, ඒත් ඉතින් එයාවත් මේව හරියට ලියල එලියට දාන්නෙ නෑ මේ ජාතිවාද මෙව්ව එකක් අල්ලන් ඉන්නවා මිසක. එදා දෙරණෙ සාකච්ඡාවට ඇවිල්ල කිව්ව 'තරංගවාදය' බොරු කලා කියල කෝ මට තවම ඒක කියවන්න හම්බුනේ නෑ
I think I said killing by slitting it's throat is better than what you see in most local slaughter houses. But that doesn't mean it's better than electrocution or any other modern slaughter technique.
The experiment, as described in hafizaads original post, clearly fails to provide for the null hypothesis. But the original paper is a proper scientific test that provides for a null hypothesis. You can find a translation of it here.
And I suggest you chaps read the original 1978 paper carefully. The paper compares a hydrolic throat slitting device to a bolt stunning device, and not the more modern mechanism of electrocution which introduces immediate paralysis. But the question remains whether all instances of halal slaughter are equivalent to a hydrolic knife? furthermore, the paper itself is somewhat inconclusive given that Schulze himself says that the bolt device they have used is defective.
It is silly to assume that technology used then has the same efficacy as modern equipment. Moreover, a more recent study has shown clearly that modern slaughter techniques are much more humane than archaic ritual slaughter(see my earlier post). Moreover, I find it distrubing that the Muslim, and even the Jewish, community are staunchly opposed to paralyzing the animal before killing. If your religion is truly concerned about animal welfare then you have to paralyze the animal before killing it.
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you says well.
what you mean by paralyze. if it mean making the animal powerless then have you not see how Muslim make powerless the animal before slaughtering.
n halal way is the least painfull way of killing a person why dont you start killing the murderers, homosexuals in halal way except throwing stones at them
Question:
Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume non-vegetarian food?
Answer:
‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement theworld over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights.
Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.
Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.
1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian
A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.
2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:
"O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals with the exceptions named."
[Al-Qur’an 5:1]
"And cattle Hehas created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 16:5]
"And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 23:21]
3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.
4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.
5. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?
6. Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-vegetarian food
7. Hinduism was influenced by other religions
Though Hindu Scriptures permit its followers to have non-vegetarian food, many Hindus adopted the vegetarian system because they were influenced by other religions like Jainism.
8. Even plants have life
Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.
9. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.
10. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses.
Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.
In fact the Qur’an says:
"O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good"
[Al-Qur’an 2:168]
11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
12. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become non-vegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.
Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume non-vegetarian food?
Answer:
‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement theworld over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights.
Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.
Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.
1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian
A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.
2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:
"O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals with the exceptions named."
[Al-Qur’an 5:1]
"And cattle Hehas created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 16:5]
"And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 23:21]
3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.
4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.
5. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?
6. Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-vegetarian food
- There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian. They think it is against their religion to consume non-vegetarian food. But the true fact is that the Hindu scriptures permit a person to have meat. The scriptures mention Hindu sages and saints consuming non-vegetarian food.
- It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30
"The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad, even if he does it day after day, for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater."
- Again next verse of Manu Smruti, that is, chapter 5 verse 31 says
"Eating meat is right for the sacrifice, this is traditionally known as a rule of the gods."
- Further in Manu Smruti chapter 5 verse 39 and 40 says
"God himself created sacrificial animals for sacrifice, ...., therefore killing in a sacrifice is not killing."
- Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Pitris (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied. Paragraph reads as follows:
"Yudhishthira said, "O thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitiris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! WhatHavi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time? What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?"
"Bhishma said, "Listen to me, O Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each. With sesame seeds and rice and barely and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, O king, remain gratifiedfor the period of a month. With fishes offered at Shraddhas, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With the mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer thatare called Prishata, they remaingratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months, With the meat of the bufffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said , lasts for a full year. Payasa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years. The flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible. The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible.
So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.
7. Hinduism was influenced by other religions
Though Hindu Scriptures permit its followers to have non-vegetarian food, many Hindus adopted the vegetarian system because they were influenced by other religions like Jainism.
8. Even plants have life
Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.
9. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.
10. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses.
Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.
In fact the Qur’an says:
"O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good"
[Al-Qur’an 2:168]
11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
12. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become non-vegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.
9. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain.
LMAO...
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain.
LMAO...
Along the same lines, babies are the perfect size for being kicked. Therefore, kicking babies is perfectly logical and should be encouraged.
Can I see a reference to farmer bob's science experiment?
African Buffaloes are wild cattle their population isn't artificially regulated, but I don't see their numbers going haywire.
WTF, I think the ganja he took at the beginning of this article is kicking in at this point.
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Brother i asked openly from you and all who are posting irrational arguments against non - vegitarians. Have you Not Eat Meat in Your Life ?
Brother Mononoke, You have science knowledge you know and tell me can without meat human body Physical need can be fullfiled..?
it serves as a fabulous source of high quality proteins, which a single vegetarian food is not able to provide. It contains all the essential amino acids that the body requires.
This is my challenge and experience, that the people who weap more on killing animal --eat more meat than other peoples.
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සහෝදරයා, මම අද තමයි මේ ත්රෙඩ් එක දැක්කේ. කවුරු කොහොම මොනවා කීවත්, ඕනෙම දෙයක් ගැන හිතන්න අපිට බුද්ධියක් තියෙනවා. අපි මිනිස්සුනේ. බුදු දහමේ මස් කන්න කියලවත් එපා කියලවත් නෑ. නමුත්, බුදු දහමේ පර පන නැසීම සහ සතුන් වෙළෙඳාම කෙළින්ම ප්රතික්ෂේප කරලා තියෙනවා. නමුත්, පණ ඇති සතුන් මැරීම ප්රතික්ෂේප කිරීමෙන්ම මස් කෑමත් ප්රතික්ෂේප වෙනවා. මොකද, මරන්නේ නැතුව කන්නේ කොහොමද. බුදු හාමුදුරුවෝ ඇවිල්ලා කිව්වත් (සමා වෙන්න ඔනා මෙහෙම කියන්න වුනාට ) සත්තු මරාගෙන කාපල්ලා කියලා, බුද්ධිමත් සහ සදාචාරසම්පන්න විදිය මොකක්ද කියලා විමසලා වැඩ කරන්න මිනිස්සුන්ට මොලයක් තියෙනවා.
අපි ආගම් පැත්තකින් තියමු. ඔය මිනිස්සු මරන සත්තු ,තමන්ගේ කැමැත්තෙන්ද මරන තැනට යන්නේ?. වැරදිලා හරි සතාම එතනට ගියා කියමුකො. ඌ මැරෙන්නෙ කැමැත්තෙන්ද?. ඌට රිදෙන්නේ නැද්ද?. හරි අපි එළවළු පළතුරු ගන්නෙත් පණ තියෙන ගස් වලින් කියමුකො. සහෝදරයා ඒක කියලා සත්තු මරන එක සාධාරණය කරන්නද හදන්නේ?. ඔය මැරෙන සත්තුන්ට කතා කරන්න පුලුවන් වුනා නම් කියයි, මරන වෙලාවේ තියෙන ෆන් එක කොහොමද කියල.
සහෝදරයා, මෙ වගේ දේවල් තර්ක කරල විතරක් විසඳන්න පුලුවන් ප්රස්න නෙමේ.
"තම තම නැණ පමණින් දැන ගත යුතු"
කට්ටිය අහල තියෙනවද "අපෝහක තර්කනය" ගැන?. අපේ මව් භාෂාවෙන් ඒකට කියන්නේ "Fuzzy Logic". තර්කයෙන් විතරක් හැමදේම විසඳන්න බෑ.
අපි ආගම් පැත්තකින් තියමු. ඔය මිනිස්සු මරන සත්තු ,තමන්ගේ කැමැත්තෙන්ද මරන තැනට යන්නේ?. වැරදිලා හරි සතාම එතනට ගියා කියමුකො. ඌ මැරෙන්නෙ කැමැත්තෙන්ද?. ඌට රිදෙන්නේ නැද්ද?. හරි අපි එළවළු පළතුරු ගන්නෙත් පණ තියෙන ගස් වලින් කියමුකො. සහෝදරයා ඒක කියලා සත්තු මරන එක සාධාරණය කරන්නද හදන්නේ?. ඔය මැරෙන සත්තුන්ට කතා කරන්න පුලුවන් වුනා නම් කියයි, මරන වෙලාවේ තියෙන ෆන් එක කොහොමද කියල.
සහෝදරයා, මෙ වගේ දේවල් තර්ක කරල විතරක් විසඳන්න පුලුවන් ප්රස්න නෙමේ.
"තම තම නැණ පමණින් දැන ගත යුතු"
කට්ටිය අහල තියෙනවද "අපෝහක තර්කනය" ගැන?. අපේ මව් භාෂාවෙන් ඒකට කියන්නේ "Fuzzy Logic". තර්කයෙන් විතරක් හැමදේම විසඳන්න බෑ.
Bro, I have ate chicken two times when I was very little. But, I refused all meat & fish after then. Whatever we can get from meat & things, I'm with the point of that "All the beings have the right to live & all are fear of death & pain.". So, I don't care whatever I miss from meat or such things. & I'm trying to be a Vegan. If someone don't know about Vegans, they're the people who don't use or consume any animal product, even things like dairy product. It's hard to practice. But, it's the real thing. 'Coz, even things like milk we get from those innocent animals by force.
11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
What's the solution for human overpopulation? Wars? Infections? Whatever it it, it has failed, don't you think?
No wonder.
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
What's the solution for human overpopulation? Wars? Infections? Whatever it it, it has failed, don't you think?
No wonder.
thx
@thilina Full article eka kiyewwada? mama adahas karanne kaatawath balakaranne ne kana eka or kanne neti eka eyalage kematta tat what i am saying
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