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jesus also like tat buddy

Nope, (This time my answer will be bit rude sorry for that my brother )
Jesus spoke in parables to everyone,
He also did things that requires a second look
If you read the following verses you will see He
was more than just a messenger

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh

If you want Him to be just a messenger, thats what He can be
to you.

If you want Him to be just your Savior, thats what He can be to you..

BUT... If you want Him to be your LORD GOD and SAVIOR
and read the Old Testament and New Testament
and Follow His words, really live His words,
then He is your Lord and Savior with His Spirit living in you !
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BE WARNED ... any spirit that denies Jesus is the Christ
is the ANTICHRIST SPIRIT
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son.

No, not "JUST" but much more!

You want more evedence from the Bible?

"...the Christ, who is the image of God,.."--2 CORINTHIANS 4:4.


"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens."--Collossians 1:15-20.

I will give you one super verse ...... if Jesus is not Son of God (Different form of GOd) he should have say something very differrent to this

" I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." All other messengers point to the Way, the Truth and the Life," never to oneself. Unless He really means what He said
 

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Jesus is just a man If he is just a man he will definitely say it like Buddha did Lord Buddha clarly said that is he not God or any other supernatural being but he said he is not a normal one he is the waken one so Bhuddha is quit straight forward likewise Prophet Mohamed might be Just a Messenger according to Muslims but I do b’live it has mention in the holy Koran (if not pls correct me)
Quran Says For Juses and Muhammad that:

Muhammad (SAW) is no more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him(adam,david,moses, juses etc). If he dies or is killed, will you then turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allâh, and Allâh will give reward to those who are grateful. (3, 144)


One Muslim brother has post tons of youtube videos but I don’t think you find a better answer like other Documentaries it will make you more confused that’s for sure
Yes your thinking are true because you paster has no answer like you he also just insisting on his own thought and his thought are against bibles.
i have posted these vedio in aim to clear the fact that we all who are posting here are just student so we don't know more than our scholor...so i posted the debate of our elder to clear the fact...but you instead of gaining from them ....!


Mchan other things is do you think that almighty God has done any mistake …ok muslims b’live that Jesus is sent from God according to them he is Just a man but most reliable New Testimate teaches us Jesus is Son of God …
what about old testiment...?
Jesus clear said that whoever believes in me believes in my father but Muslims doesn’t b’live in him means according to Jesus there are not b’live in the father as well.
Brother why you reading out of context....is it not clearly saying here i am the representative and messenger from God whoever beleive on me beleive in my Father (God).
Quran says same for Muhammad see:

Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (follow the Qur'ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (3,31)

mchan Jesus came to this world b’coz people normaly don’t’ b’live in immaterial things this is a material world (I would like to call it A great Stimulation) that is one reason other main reason was to pay for sin it needs a great sacrifice so jesus gave his life for us…. Mchan what is the best thing you can give to your brother or love one ??? that is your life
“Life itself is a great sacrifice”
Brother it is your own theory otherwise God has not done that for the satisfaction of mankind nor it required that he send a God. you can read the histrory of Prophets...For human being human are reasonable to sent.
Quran says :

Say: "If there were settled on the earth angels, walking about in peace and security, We should certainly have sent down for them from the heaven an angel as a Messenger." (17, 95)

Brother dont disgrace God. he is eternal...he has not need, problem, sorrow like us.He has no Family system..Please dont say thing which can harm you in next life.

What is the nature and significance of God :

none has the right to be worshipped but He

, the Ever Living,

the One Who sustains and protects all that exists.

Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him.

To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth.

Who is there that can intercede with Him except with His Permission?

He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world,

and what will happen to them in the Hereafter .

And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills.

His Kursî[Throne] extends over the heavens and the earth,

and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them.

And He is the Most High, the Most Great. (3, 255)

God Forgive You
 
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AS catholics we believe in Jesus and we know he is son of God. That is our belief.
So anyone has nothing to do with our belief. so If you proved that whether jesus is god or not who cares. thats not change anything.
Who cares?
In sinhala- Ape belief gana katwath thiyena puke amaruwa mokakda
 

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Quran Says For Juses and Muhammad that:

Muhammad (SAW) is no more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him(adam,david,moses, juses etc). If he dies or is killed, will you then turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allâh, and Allâh will give reward to those who are grateful. (3, 144)



Yes your thinking are true because you paster has no answer like you he also just insisting on his own thought and his thought are against bibles. ( No brother ok then same thing I can say it to you mchan ,,,b'live me I am not an extremist when I was 14 I studie Buddism and I nearly got convertered… but still I can say if am not a Catholic I would have been Buddhist )

i have posted these vedio in aim to clear the fact that we all who are posting here are just student so we don't know more than our scholor...so i posted the debate of our elder to clear the fact...but you instead of gaining from them ....!
You can say anything

what about old testiment...?

Brother why you reading out of context....is it not clearly saying here i am the representative and messenger from God whoever beleive on me beleive in my Father (God).

Quran says same for Muhammad see:

Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (follow the Qur'ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (3,31)


Brother it is your own theory otherwise God has not done that for the satisfaction of mankind nor it required that he send a God. (Must be corrected Son of God) you can read the histrory of Prophets...For human being human are reasonable to sent.
Quran says :

Say: "If there were settled on the earth angels, walking about in peace and security, We should certainly have sent down for them from the heaven an angel as a Messenger." (17, 95)

Brother dont disgrace God. he is eternal...he has not need, problem, sorrow like us. (Jesus has no need for them)He has no Family system..Please dont say thing which can harm you in next life. ( I B'live in Christ I am not disgrace god I love him every much - or I can say no other loves him than I do)

What is the nature and significance of God :

none has the right to be worshipped but He

, the Ever Living,

the One Who sustains and protects all that exists.

Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him.

To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth.

Who is there that can intercede with Him except with His Permission?

He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world,

and what will happen to them in the Hereafter .

And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills.

His Kursî[Throne] extends over the heavens and the earth,

and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them.

And He is the Most High, the Most Great. (3, 255)

God Forgive You

(GOD ALREADY HAS FORGIVEN US YET YOU ARE NOT ACCEPT THE THRUTH - YOU SHOULD NOT POST ANY THING DISRESPECTABLE TO HIS CREATION (SPECAILY HIS SON)

I AM NOT THE ONE WHO CREAT THIS ARGUMENT IS IT YOU EXTREME MUSLIMS CREATE THIS ARGUMENTS SO I THINK GOD WILL KNOW FOR SURE WHO NEEDS HIS FORGIVENESS

MAY ALLAH GIVE YOU THE WISDOM !!! (Inshallah)
 

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NOT ONLY MUSLIMS CAN ENTER HIS KINDOM WE ALL CAN ENTER


"Be they Muslim, Jews, Christians, or Sabians, those who believe in God and the Last Day and who do good have their reward with their Lord, They have nothing to fear, and they will not sorrow." Koran: The Cow verse 62
 

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NOT ONLY MUSLIMS CAN ENTER HIS KINDOM WE ALL CAN ENTER


"Be they Muslim, Jews, Christians, or Sabians, those who believe in God and the Last Day and who do good have their reward with their Lord, They have nothing to fear, and they will not sorrow." Koran: The Cow verse 62

Pls correct me if i am wrong

my friend quoted this verse from the koran
 
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Pls correct me if i am wrong

my friend quoted this verse from the koran

Its not that, muslims want to trouble you.pls understand when some one do something wrong of course some one will correct it, there is no harm in telling with proof.if you they show u proof u can accept otherwise u can reject it.

Quran versus that you quoted seems to be wrong..there is no Sura called 'Cow'.please check it up.
 
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Nope, (This time my answer will be bit rude sorry for that my brother )
Jesus spoke in parables to everyone,
He also did things that requires a second look
If you read the following verses you will see He
was more than just a messenger


I will give you one super verse ...... if Jesus is not Son of God (Different form of GOd) he should have say something very differrent to this

I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." All other messengers point to the Way, the Truth and the Life," never to oneself. Unless He really means what He said

The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who re-jected Jesus as a prophet, called him an imposter, while the Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, may God praise them.

“They have certainly disbelieved who say, ‘God is the third of three.’ (Ra-ther) there is none worthy of worship except One (God). And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbeliev-ers among them a painful punishment. So will they not repent to God and seek His forgiveness? And God is Forgiving and Merciful. The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthful-ness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!” (Quran 5:73-75)
And also:

“O People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: ‘God is a Trinity.’ Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. For God is indeed (the only) One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. And God is sufficient for a guardian.” (Quran 4:171)


“And (beware the Day) when God will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides God?’” He will say, ‘Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what you commanded me – to worship God, my Lord and your Lord…’” (Quran 5:116-117)

May God Show you Right Path, I will Post No More. Thanx
 

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The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who re-jected Jesus as a prophet, called him an imposter, while the Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, may God praise them.

“They have certainly disbelieved who say, ‘God is the third of three.’ (Ra-ther) there is none worthy of worship except One (God). And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbeliev-ers among them a painful punishment. So will they not repent to God and seek His forgiveness? And God is Forgiving and Merciful. The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthful-ness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!” (Quran 5:73-75)
And also:

“O People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: ‘God is a Trinity.’ Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. For God is indeed (the only) One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. And God is sufficient for a guardian.” (Quran 4:171)


“And (beware the Day) when God will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides God?’” He will say, ‘Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what you commanded me – to worship God, my Lord and your Lord…’” (Quran 5:116-117)

May God Show you Right Path, I will Post No More. Thanx

My friend it is contracting .... you quote "Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, may God praise them." but above verses tell us just like God hate Jesus .... like God have make a big mistake sending Jesus as a messenger we b'live that the Bible is fairly true (Specially New Testiment) then Jesus said one thing God says another ? or If Bible is true then your religion (specially this verse ) is dead wrong.... if Koran is true then Jesus is a liar False messenger sent by God

Well no point of further discussion We B'live in Jesus you b'live in Allah but Dont ever insult of Jesus in the name of God


Thank you if i am wrong God pls reveal the truth before I die

God Bless you
 

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AS catholics we believe in Jesus and we know he is son of God. That is our belief.
So anyone has nothing to do with our belief. so If you proved that whether jesus is god or not who cares. thats not change anything.
Who cares?
In sinhala- Ape belief gana katwath thiyena puke amaruwa mokakda

Mchan okkoma true but withdraw the last verse

I know you got really pissed off with them (Devil's Child) but we Catholics are not condemn others we respect each other
 

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My friend it is contracting .... you quote "Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, may God praise them." but above verses tell us just like God hate Jesus .... like God have make a big mistake sending Jesus as a messenger we b'live that the Bible is fairly true (Specially New Testiment) then Jesus said one thing God says another ? or If Bible is true then your religion (specially this verse ) is dead wrong.... if Koran is true then Jesus is a liar False messenger sent by God

Well no point of further discussion We B'live in Jesus you b'live in Allah but Dont ever insult of Jesus in the name of God


Thank you if i am wrong God pls reveal the truth before I die

God Bless you

Brother your point has force me to post new comments. how you have concluded that above verses tell us just like God hate Jesus or like God have make a big mistake sending Jesus as a messenger...

Brother this is the way and style of God in sending prophets. he has sent all Prophet either they are come before or after jesus all are sent in same style...you can read the history of Prophets from Adam Miraclous birth (More than juses as he has no father also no mother) to Muhammad All are sent as messenger.Sending messenger to Guide Human being is a love not hate....

Brother all things are clear....their is a problem in our thinking...we have to thought openly....

My aim is not to hurt you, brother for a month why you dont study and listen peoples who says bibles is fabricated and manipulated by historian people and there are God words as well as human words...Mark, Luke, John all describes bibles in their own and different way and there are more 72 different books....etc May be they are saying truth.
I hope you will not take my point as insult...I Appreciate your ethical way of commenting ...
we have no property dispute with you or we are not interdependant . May be there is confusion.

but i told you we have sympathetic feeling for you and all. I am sorry if any of my any point or comment was offensive for you..

Brother Lets start from today I for myself and you for yourself Pray to God in these words whole heartidly "O God Please show me the Right Path which you like, i am weak and Have need of your Kind Help and Guide "
If you were on the right path you remain on that path, if i will on the right, i will remain on it. But this is beneficial.
Peace be upon you.
 
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Brother your point has force me to post new comments. how you have concluded that above verses tell us just like God hate Jesus or like God have make a big mistake sending Jesus as a messenger...

Brother this is the way and style of God in sending prophets. he has sent all Prophet either they are come before or after jesus all are sent in same style...you can read the history of Prophets from Adam Miraclous birth (More than juses as he has no father also no mother) to Muhammad All are sent as messenger.Sending messenger to Guide Human being is a love not hate....

Brother all things are clear....their is a problem in our thinking...we have to thought openly.... (yeah there should be a missing link to join every religions)

My aim is not to hurt you, brother for a month why you dont study and listen peoples who says bibles is fabricated and manipulated by historian people and there are God words as well as human words...Mark, Luke, John all describes bibles in their own and different way and there are more 72 different books....etc May be they are saying truth. (to be Honest with you yes I B'live they have drop some book from the Bible but I do b'live Bible remain untouched coz God will Protect it because it is our Guideline but as you said if you read the missing books (I have read some) you will get a different idea but after all God will give you enogh Wisdom if you have chosen one so will pray to God)



I hope you will not take my point as insult...I Appreciate your ethical way of commenting ... (Thank you the only Different we have is the Teaching of Jesus other than that We all talking about one True God you call him Allah We call him Father or Almighty God - to be honest with you first I have a bit confusion how/why Jesus die? First I thought no you can not killed Jesus as you said but after lots of reseaches and readings I come to the conclution that he is a differnet form of God)

we have no property dispute with you or we are not interdependant . May be there is confusion.

but i told you we have sympathetic feeling for you and all. I am sorry if any of my any point or comment was offensive for you.. ( Don't care abt me but do Care about God - What IF JEsus is really Son of God? think abt it)

Brother Lets start from today I for myself and you for yourself Pray to God in these words whole heartidly "O God Please show me the Right Path which you like, i am weak and Have need of your Kind Help and Guide "
If you were on the right path you remain on that path, if i will on the right, i will remain on it. But this is beneficial.
Peace be upon you.
Ok will pray God will lead us to the Truth
 

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"Some poeple are seeing but does not believe " This movie will change your life

Brother in our religion making pictures or movies of Prophet and God is not allowed as we think this insult prophets and noble personalities as people who act the role of Noble prophet are mainly sinny and not have a single quality like that prophet in original..May be you have read or listen about the protest against Denmark cartoonist and other film made on islam.
we believe that all prophet inculding juses faced painful problem in life for guiding their nation.i think this film is also about like that. i am saying this because we dont bear the insult of any prophets as without them our believe also not complete..
what you says....
 

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Brother in our religion making pictures or movies of Prophet and God is not allowed as we think this insult prophets and noble personalities as people who act the role of Noble prophet are mainly sinny and not have a single quality like that prophet in original..May be you have read or listen about the protest against Denmark cartoonist and other film made on islam.
we believe that all prophet inculding juses faced painful problem in life for guiding their nation.i think this film is also about like that. i am saying this because we dont bear the insult of any prophets as without them our believe also not complete..
what you says....

Can you show me a Photo of your Prophet ???