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[ela_eluwa120]

ඔබ සියලු දෙනාටම බුද්ධ ධර්මය පිළිබද ගැටලු ඇතිවන තැන් නිරවුල් කරගැනීමට උපකාරයක් ලෙස මෙම හූය ආරම්භ කරන ලදී...

කැමැති අයෙකුට ධර්මය ගැන ගැටලු ඇති ස්ථානයක් ඇතොත් ඒ පිලිබද ඇසීමට මෙන්ම, කැමති කෙනෙකුට තමන්ගේ දැනුමේ තරමට උත්තර දීමට ද පුලුවන.



This thread is for everyone who needs to enhance their knowledge about Buddhism. You are welcome to ask questions, and seek clarification, plus clear your confusions regarding Buddhism.

 

[Sailani]

i need to know whether bikshus / monks can involve in politics ?? is it allowed to bikshus / monks practice democracy in buddhism which is full of corruptions ???

what budhdhism say about this can some one clarify me ?? no offence..

 

[sudunone]

i need to know whether bikshus / monks can involve in politics ?? is it allowed to bikshus / monks practice democracy in buddhism which is full of corruptions ???

what budhdhism say about this can some one clarify me ?? no offence..

The basic idea of becoming a bhikkhu, is to be free from the worries of lay life and have more time to improve spiritual life-to follow the ariya atthangika magga. So, getting involved in politics is a hindrance in attaining that goal.

 

[Sailani]

The basic idea of becoming a bhikkhu, is to be free from the worries of lay life and have more time to improve spiritual life-to follow the ariya atthangika magga. So, getting involved in politics is a hindrance in attaining that goal.

then it is allowed in buddhism to practice politics and monk life ??

is it is so can you give me any historical or scripture feedbacks which support this idea ??

 

[tchin123]

ොසවාන් විමෙදි සක්කාය දිට්ටිය සම්පුර්නයෙන්ම පහ වෙනවාද?

 

[ela_eluwa120]

ොසවාන් විමෙදි සක්කාය දිට්ටිය සම්පුර්නයෙන්ම පහ වෙනවාද?

ඔව්..

සක්කාය දිට්ඨි, විචිකිච්ඡා, සීලබ්බත පරාමාස යන සංයෝජන තුන සම්පූර්ණයෙන් ම නැතිකරපු කෙනෙක් සෝවාන් ඵලයට පැමිණෙනවා..

 

[tchin123]

ඔව්..

සක්කාය දිට්ඨි, විචිකිච්ඡා, සීලබ්බත පරාමාස යන සංයෝජන තුන සම්පූර්ණයෙන් ම නැතිකරපු කෙනෙක් සෝවාන් ඵලයට පැමිණෙනවා..

බොහොම පින් ඔබට

 

[sudunone]

then it is allowed in buddhism to practice politics and monk life ??

is it is so can you give me any historical or scripture feedbacks which support this idea ??

A bhikkhu is a person who has left a lay life-which means, he should not have an occupation, such as a post of MP, and if he is a fully ordained monk, should not touch money-so he cannot accept a salary. Do I make myself clear?

The vinaya rules were introduced as and when required. Initially, those who became monks were those who were focused on finding a solution to dukkha, or focused on nirvana. But later on people joined the Sangha community for various gains. These people were not focused on spiritual development and various rules had to be implemented.

As far as I know, monks of that day, didn't enter politics- India was ruled by kings, whose crown passed from one king to his child. So 'politics' as we have today, didn't exist. But Buddha has stated that monks should not engage in trades or handle money.

But since the Buddhist monks depend on lay people for their needs (food, robes, dwellings, medication) they should repay by teaching dhamma to lay people, engaging them in good deeds and providing proper guidance to lay people.

Since their main aim is to attain nirvana, in my opinion, they cannot engage in full-time politics.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

බොහොම පින් ඔබට

 

[hafizsaad]

I have a question,

If Budhism has no Concept of God (who has authority) so therefore there would no worship required, why budhish worship statue and practice religious acts like all other religion who have concept of God ?


short and easy to understand answer required in English.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

I have a question,

If Budhism has no Concept of God (who has authority) so therefore there would no worship required, why budhish worship statue and practice religious acts like all other religion who have concept of God ?


short and easy to understand answer required in English.

Well, first of all, we need to understand that there are different types of worships.
You, as a Muslim, believe that when you pray for God, God will hear your prayers and answer them. (as per my knowledge.) That is one type of worship.

On the other hand, another kind of worship occur when we pay respect for someone(or something) we greatly admire. (we salute the national anthem by standing when it is played, for example.)

This is the type of worship that Buddhists practice. Buddhists express their gratitude to Buddha for what he had thought, preached us. Plus, a statue is used to represent Buddha.

 

[hafizsaad]

This is the type of worship that Buddhists practice. Buddhists express their gratitude to Buddha for what he had thought, preached us. Plus, a statue is used to represent Buddha.

Brother sorry to say i know this answer before but i think this is actually a worship not respect. otherwise respect not compulsary required worship, you can ask an atheist how he respect his more beloved Mother and father..
i repeat my query that why you worship statue even you know that statue is not original budha and he is not listening, seeing ?
is it not like hindu pooja/worship ?
my aim is not to insult or offence and i also not asking for scientific proof or insisting irrationaly..
just frankly asking question.

 

[Sailani]

A bhikkhu is a person who has left a lay life-which means, he should not have an occupation, such as a post of MP, and if he is a fully ordained monk, should not touch money-so he cannot accept a salary. Do I make myself clear?

The vinaya rules were introduced as and when required. Initially, those who became monks were those who were focused on finding a solution to dukkha, or focused on nirvana. But later on people joined the Sangha community for various gains. These people were not focused on spiritual development and various rules had to be implemented.

As far as I know, monks of that day, didn't enter politics- India was ruled by kings, whose crown passed from one king to his child. So 'politics' as we have today, didn't exist. But Buddha has stated that monks should not engage in trades or handle money.

But since the Buddhist monks depend on lay people for their needs (food, robes, dwellings, medication) they should repay by teaching dhamma to lay people, engaging them in good deeds and providing proper guidance to lay people.

Since their main aim is to attain nirvana, in my opinion, they cannot engage in full-time politics.

simply tell a monk can involve in politics ?? it is allowed in buddhism or not ?? no need xplaination short answer.... thanks

 

[sudunone]

A monk cannot do a paid job.

But 'involving' is allowed- eg: advicing kings, instructing about good leadership qualities etc.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

i repeat my query that why you worship statue even you know that statue is not original budha and he is not listening, seeing ?
is it not like hindu pooja/worship ?
my aim is not to insult or offence and i also not asking for scientific proof or insisting irrationaly..
just frankly asking question.

Here the statue is something that is used to represent Lord Buddha. Time before there were statues, people used the dhammawheel symbol, bo leafs and Relics of Buddha to represent him.

Worship for Buddha or for something made in order to represent him doesn't mean that Buddhists are praying or asking anything from statues.

It is simply the respect.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

Brother sorry to say i know this answer before but i think this is actually a worship not respect. otherwise respect not compulsary required worship, you can ask an atheist how he respect his more beloved Mother and father..

Brother,
It seems you have confused the words praying and worshiping.

Buddhists never pray for statues and expect for forgiveness or anything from them. Rather, as It is mentioned in the previous post, Buddhist people show their gratitude towards Buddha.

 

[Wal Bada]

I have a question,

If Budhism has no Concept of God (who has authority) so therefore there would no worship required, why budhish worship statue and practice religious acts like all other religion who have concept of God ?


short and easy to understand answer required in English.

Buddhist don't "worship" statues. The worship which is defined in Islam is different for what worship in Buddhism. In Buddhist society it is a way of paying respect. So, in brief, Buddhist don't "worship" statues (as you worship Allah, to gain something). They just make it as a visual cue to pay respect to their teacher.

 

[Wal Bada]

Brother sorry to say i know this answer before but i think this is actually a worship not respect.

Then can't help. WHat ever I say, you won't be listening because you re prejudiced and steoreotyped now.

otherwise respect not compulsary required worship, you can ask an atheist how he respect his more beloved Mother and father..

It was compulsory when ancient people paying respect to the King. Mate this is not Arab. This is South Asia, and that is how it had been for last 5000 years. Your type of definitions just scratch the surface of the civilization that Asia had. The highest respect you can pay is by worshipping.

i repeat my query that why you worship statue even you know that statue is not original budha and he is not listening, seeing ?

I repeat my answer, your definition of worship does not match here. Understand what is meant by worship in oriental societies. No one is worshiping a statue. No one worships Buddha even. Because Buddha or the statue cannot take us to nirvana. But by using the visual cue we pay respect to the founder of the path that leads us to nirvana

s it not like hindu pooja/worship ?

Don't know. I am not Hindu.

my aim is not to insult or offence and i also not asking for scientific proof or insisting irrationaly. just frankly asking question.

Your aim is to show that only God is suitable for worship. Hafisaad, we have gone through this once. So I know what are your intentions.

 

[hafizsaad]

Then can't help. WHat ever I say, you won't be listening because you re prejudiced and steoreotyped now.

It was compulsory when ancient people paying respect to the King. Mate this is not Arab. This is South Asia, and that is how it had been for last 5000 years. Your type of definitions just scratch the surface of the civilization that Asia had. The highest respect you can pay is by worshipping.

i have asked simply a question about your cocept of respect which is similar to hindu worship, you want to change it to debate, and insisting on what you think about us. i have not insisted irrationaly like you have insisted while talking about islam in the thread which you have given in your signature also.
i have also compared your concept of respect with style use in south asia (in india) by hindu worshiper for worship of idols.sorry your answer is not logical,You have given the example of respect to the king but that was hapened when king alive, not after death of that king they done such act.

I repeat my answer, your definition of worship does not match here. Understand what is meant by worship in oriental societies. No one is worshiping a statue. No one worships Buddha even. Because Buddha or the statue cannot take us to nirvana. But by using the visual cue we pay respect to the founder of the path that leads us to nirvana.
Don't know. I am not Hindu.

if you have no knowledge about hinduism search on google and see how they worship idols...
i given the example of respect style for a beloved parents and also you have quoted about ancient king when they are alive ,.and we know through this respect they (King and parent) feel happiness but how beneficial for a sensless statue and for a person who worship (respect) daily, day and night to him. will you made a statue for your most beloved people after their death and respect in this style..

Your aim is to show that only God is suitable for worship. Hafisaad, we have gone through this once. So I know what are your intentions.

i have no negative intention. i have asked open question on open offer by ela..If you dont like to answer. its ok for me, i am not insisting for it.

 

[hafizsaad]

Here the statue is something that is used to represent Lord Buddha. Time before there were statues, people used the dhammawheel symbol, bo leafs and Relics of Buddha to represent him.

Worship for Buddha or for something made in order to represent him doesn't mean that Buddhists are praying or asking anything from statues.

It is simply the respect.

its ok brother. i had confusion on similarity of your and hindu's style. therefore i asked question on your offer that you have not reward system and aspectation from God through worship then why you worship him like hindu's as they worship for reward and have aspectation from their idols and statues..,
its ok. this is your style of respect which is not familiar to non budhish.