HARD TALK - Presidential Election 2010

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HARD TALK on Presidential Election 2010​

Dear all Members here you can talk more seriously what you think about these two main candidates Hor. Mahinda Rajapaksha Vs Gen. Sarath Fonseka (Retired)

What we really need ?
How we can trust the unkown devil ?

No fightings , Talk only base on some reasons, think about more about our Country

Lets talk !!!
 

Y2K

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Let’s not make the same mistake as the Tamil people did. Out of profound dissatisfaction, they abandoned, turned their backs on their civilian lawyer-politician leaders and opted for a warrior-warlord as their “national leader”. This has led them to the brink of destruction as a community. Do the Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims collectively wish to make the same disastrous choice or its equivalent? We needed a tough, ruthless, driven, army commander to beat an enemy as ruthless as the Tigers but do we need him to lead us and rule us?

If you wish to change the analogy, the end of the Tamil nationalist cause commenced with the Karuna breakaway and the challenge to his leader. Karuna has proved his point about being the match winning commander for the Tigers: they lost the only war in which he did not fight and indeed fought on the other side. Is Sarath Fonseka our Karuna equivalent? Karuna is good for Sri Lanka as a whole but that was because he went up against Prabhakaran, not a democratically elected nationalist leader. What would be the effect on the national interest of a Karuna rebellion on our side? Do we wish to reward it with electoral success?

Gen Fonseka claims that the military victory was his, while he acknowledges the “support” extended by President Rajapakse. History however, rightly credits Lincoln over Grant and Sherman, Lenin over Trotsky, Stalin over Zhukhov, Churchill over Montgomery, Roosevelt over Patton and MacArthur, Mao over Zhu Deh and Lin Biao, and Ho Chi Minh over Gen Giap. This is because the role of overall political leadership and the necessary political will is the most vital single element in the conduct of war.
 

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    The Photograph in question

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    The futile effort to cover up the photo by pasting the face of a poor ignorant lean bodied fellow on to namal R's huge torso by an amateur in photo editing



    ""Lanka Truth's ''UNTRUTH'' revealed & fails again in slinging mud at the Rajapaksha Family."" A plan to defame the Rajapaksha family by Mangala Samaraweera's 'MUDia'
    campaign for Sarath Fonseka, derails again as the original Photo has
    been altered on Photoshop BUT with many mistakes such as Namal's Face
    having a glow Brighter than the 'Overall Shade of Dark Pixels' &
    the base of the Face (near the Chin) Hanging & Bent towards the
    Leftside of Namal. - It is time the citizens of Sri Lanka ARE not fooled by these idiotic Mud Slinging !


    the FB group which attempted this

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-vote-Mahinda-Rajapaksa/184290218039?ref=nf


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    what lankatruth.com said in response

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    Then straight out of the devils mouth itself



    Are the rajapakse dynasty this naive in thinking that the people in this country are stupid?? So namal or his security entourage didn't know that it was Emil kanth who appeared in a photo with him??

    I sincerely regret the quality of the video...It got messed up while converting to AVI format....


    and finally.....in conclusion......

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    PLEASE FORWARD THIS & POST IT IN WHATEVER THREAD YOU CAN TO MAKE THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY BE AWARE OF THIS DANGEROUS CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TIGER LEADERS & THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO ACUSE GEN. fONSEKA OF HAVING LINKS WITH TIGERS.THE DYNASTY TRIED IN VAIN TO SUPPRESS THIS NEWS FROM THE MEDIA BUT EVENTUALLY THE TRUTH REIGNS SUPREME

    took a long time for me to make this & the video

    if you like this post I'll appreciate a reward in the form of + reps
     

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    Sarath Fonseka was a vitally indispensable factor in the victory. There may not – or probably would not — have been one without him. But there definitely would not have been a victory without Mahinda Rajapakse. If we had only Gen Fonseka as Army commander and no Mahinda Rajapakse as President — and no Mahinda as President would have meant no Gotabhaya as Secy Defense—we might have had a Jayasikuru writ very large. Having fought under President Kumaratunga, who permitted Mangala Samaraweera’s Sudu Nelum movement and the Saama Thavalama to roam the countryside spreading antiwar propaganda precisely at the same time that the army was struggling to recruit men for the ongoing war that had been imposed by Prabhakaran, Gen Fonseka should perhaps be more aware than most, of the vital role played by political will and commitment to victory at the top, the level of the Executive and Commander in Chief, i.e. by the Rajapakse Presidency. While Gen Fonseka was the driving force of the ground war, the prime motivator of the soldiery, this was a combined arms war in which tactical airpower was more important and effective than ever before and the Navy crippled the logistics of the Tigers. Montgomery defeated Rommel by targeting his petroleum supplies, reducing the efficacy of his splendid tank force. If the Tigers had been able to bring down on the Sri Lankan infantrymen, the kind of ordnance they were able to during Jayasikuru, the war would still be on. This does not mean that Admiral Karannagoda and Air Marshal Goonetilleke were more important than Gen Fonseka, but it does mean that the victory was a superb collective effort, and that collectivity of effort, overcoming inter-service rivalry and indeed intra-army rivalry was made possible by Mahinda Rajapakse through the “General Manager” Gotabhaya Rajapakse, who also secured the necessary external inputs, both material and intangible-qualitative.

    It is alternately nauseating and hilarious that some who have never looked violent death in the face say or heavily hint that General Sarath Fonseka who has shed blood copiously for the Sri Lankan cause, carries enemy lead in his body, and was the driving force of the main force – the army – of the historic victory against the Tamil Tigers, is a traitor. What gives them the moral right and authority to do so? Who has the right to determine who is and isn’t a traitor, and by what criteria? Furthermore, what is the relevance of this terminology anyway? The war is over and won, thanks far more to Sarath Fonseka than to any of those people, so what is the relevance of traitors and patriots except in the historic sense of who was and wasn’t pro-Tiger when the war was on? I rather doubt that this rhetoric of an international conspiracy and General Fonseka as a traitor is going to cut much ice with the Sri Lankan voter who is a pretty sophisticated political animal. Conspiracies are secret and what is happening is out there in the open, in the Western and Lankan media. There is a crisis in our external relations with a very important part of the world, including the world’s only superpower, led by one of the world’s most popular personalities. Any conspiracy is located within this crisis and is a byproduct of it.

    Anyone who hopes for the topmost slot in any enterprise be it in the corporate or state sector, must either have some experience in that broad area or possess academic training and qualifications in that subject, or have a combination (e.g. Barack Obama: academic and intellectual, community organizer, writer, Senator). A soldier of forty years experience, Gen Fonseka is seeking the top spot in the country with no experience in politics or civilian life. Dwight Eisenhower was President in 1953 not 1945 and in the intervening years he was President of Columbia University one of the Ivy League universities in the USA and one of the best in the world. Susilo Bangbang Yudhyono came from within the Indonesian military which had governed Indonesia since 1965 until 2000. Gen Colin Powell was once regarded as a possible Presidential candidate but that was after he was Secretary of State. Gen David Petraeus of the US army is seen as a possible US Presidential candidate next time around, but he is known as a warrior scholar, a student of History with a PhD from Princeton (and protégé of the renowned progressive scholar of international law and international relations, Richard Falk). Sarath Fonseka does not qualify on either count, though I might add that with a term in Parliament as an MP or Minister he may qualify for serious consideration as a Presidential candidate.

    It was his 40 years in the army that turned Sarath Fonseka into what he was: the warrior capable of providing inspiring leadership to his men to win the war. It is precisely those 40 years that disqualify him from holding the topmost civilian job in the land; a job that requires consultation, compromise and consensus, three qualities that are necessarily absent in the army, and which Gen Fonseka was never renowned for during his military career. Mahinda Rajapakse has exactly the same years of experience, forty, in civilian politics that Gen Fonseka has in military life. That makes him at the moment – a moment where Gen Fonseka has not yet accumulated any civilian experience– the better man for the presidency. He is not the visionary we need to take the country united into the 21st century but as a populist he is preferable to an authoritarian persona.

    None of this means that the country doesn’t need change, accelerated and socially responsive economic progress, an enlightened charter for multi-ethnicity and a vastly improved style of governance. Someone should just look at the UNDP’s Human Development report figures for Sri Lanka over the past few years, including the Gini Coefficient. Rajapakse rule does indeed need reining in, but the answer does not reside in General Fonseka as President; it does not lie in the Presidential election at all. It resides in the doctrines of “balance of power”, “containment” and more concretely, “checks and balances”. The parliamentary election is to be held shortly after the Presidential. We must not confuse the two. We the citizens, get an opportunity to throw the rascals out at the Parliamentary election, either (i) electing the UNP (which is unlikely if the party leadership remains unchanged) or (ii) reducing the strength of the SLFP led coalition and having a strong UNP Opposition or (iii) simply throwing out by means of preference votes, those existing sleazy, incompetent Ministers and sitting MPs.

    As between Rajapakse and Fonseka, continuity is better than change; within the government change is imperative, and as between the Government and the Opposition, change may be better than continuity. Observing the vital distinction between the two elections, Presidential and Parliamentary, enables Sri Lanka’s citizens to get the best deal available. Fortunately for democracy the issues that really divided Fonseka and Rajapakse ( by the former’s own admission) are now out in the open, not hidden within the state structure where they could have exploded in extra Constitutional violence. Now, it is the people of all communities, who by their free choice at the ballot box will determine the trajectory of the country.
     

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    ලැව් ගින්නක්‌ ලෙස පැතුරුණු ත්‍රස්‌තවාදය රටින් සහමුලින්ම නැති කළ නායකයාගේ ගෙල දිය නූලෙන් කැපීමට තරම් සැහැසි වන්නට සිංහලයන්ට මෙන්ම දෙමළ ජනතාවටත්, මුස්‌ලිම් ජනතාවටත් හේතුකාරණා නැත. ප්‍රභාකරන් නැතිවීමත් සමග කිසිම ත්‍රස්‌තවාදී ක්‍රියාවක්‌ රට තුළ සිදු නොවීය. ඒ ජයග්‍රහණය අද අමතක වුණාද?


    තමන් ගැන පමණක්‌ නොසිතා අතීතයෙන් පාඩම් ඉගෙන අනාගතයේ තමන් වෙනුවෙන් උපදින්නට ඉන්න ප්‍රජාව ගැන සිතා ඥානවන්ත වීමට කාලය එළඹ ඇත.
    ත්‍රස්‌තවාදය මුලින් උපුටා, පාතාල කල්ලි සුණුවිසුණු කර, නමුත් රටේ සංවර්ධනය අඩු නොකළ, නිදහස්‌ වෙළෙඳ ආර්ථිකය ආරක්‍ෂා කරදුන් පුද්ගලයා ලෙස වත්මන් ජනාධිපතිවරයාගේ උදාර සේවය සිහියට ගනිත්වා.
    ගංගාරාමයේ පොඩි හාමුදුරුවෝ ගල්බොඩ සිරි ඤාණිස්‌සර නාහිමි
     

    Y2K

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    Raa daniel dawal miguel in action

    I finally realize who is better .... But you do don't and will never realize it I prefer Dawal Daniel coz i hate the darkness open your eyes now

    "Light has come to the world but people love the darkness"

    Wake up now

    B'live me i am a good greed blooded UNP follower but MR change it


    I ask you some simple questions?

    1. Who do you thing really help to win this war?
    2. How you are so sure about SF? (Unknown Devil?)
    3. How you can say he is not serve US (A papet like ranil) but for Sri lankan?
    4. Can inexperience Political suit for the Presidency ?
    5. Why these frauds and all other allegation only came after declaration of this election? (by Kata Katha Hamudawa?)
    6. We all know there are some worthless fellow in the Parliament (Thugs & Uneducated fellows) but why do you punish President ? I mean we can clean the parliament next general election?
    7. How they can eradicate Executive presidency ? Do you really think SF do that ? any guarantee?
     

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    ලැව් ගින්නක්‌ ලෙස පැතුරුණු ත්‍රස්‌තවාදය රටින් සහමුලින්ම නැති කළ නායකයාගේ ගෙල දිය නූලෙන් කැපීමට තරම් සැහැසි වන්නට සිංහලයන්ට මෙන්ම දෙමළ ජනතාවටත්, මුස්‌ලිම් ජනතාවටත් හේතුකාරණා නැත. ප්‍රභාකරන් නැතිවීමත් සමග කිසිම ත්‍රස්‌තවාදී ක්‍රියාවක්‌ රට තුළ සිදු නොවීය. ඒ ජයග්‍රහණය අද අමතක වුණාද?


    තමන් ගැන පමණක්‌ නොසිතා අතීතයෙන් පාඩම් ඉගෙන අනාගතයේ තමන් වෙනුවෙන් උපදින්නට ඉන්න ප්‍රජාව ගැන සිතා ඥානවන්ත වීමට කාලය එළඹ ඇත.
    ත්‍රස්‌තවාදය මුලින් උපුටා, පාතාල කල්ලි සුණුවිසුණු කර, නමුත් රටේ සංවර්ධනය අඩු නොකළ, නිදහස්‌ වෙළෙඳ ආර්ථිකය ආරක්‍ෂා කරදුන් පුද්ගලයා ලෙස වත්මන් ජනාධිපතිවරයාගේ උදාර සේවය සිහියට ගනිත්වා.
    ගංගාරාමයේ පොඩි හාමුදුරුවෝ ගල්බොඩ සිරි ඤාණිස්‌සර නාහිමි


    Well said