friend, I know this is not true. Its not that you don't get any questions. It's just that you are afraid to talk about them. [/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
If Im afraid I would have not replied my friend.
I dont know the word melaine, can you explain it?
Malign mean Insult..
Shows how close minded you are. You just want to assume things that benefits you. Just like all the rest of you guys, you are so determined to label someone as ANTI-ISLAM as soon as he raises a genuine question that has been there for centuries. I do not blame you. This defense mechanism is built in to your brain, from the day you began to learn Islam. "You do not ever question Islam. Anyone who does has no other motive than insulting Islam. Label them as ANTI-ISLAM."
You do not leave a margin for anyone to judge your religion, by asking simple questions. You find them difficult to answer. You get the same questions in your mind. But since its forbidden to think, your reaction would be to label the knowledge seeker.
Without answering the simple questions, you ask them to learn true Islam. You are so blinded that you cannot see, a non believer will not move on to deeper concepts, if he cannot see logic, answers to simple questions first. Islam asks you to teach your religion, but you fail to see how it should be done. To carry on Allah's will why can't you just think straight for once? Insulting or not, these questions will educate people about Islam. These questions will help a non believer to understand it. The logics in your answers will prove the logics in Islam.
The foundation of the Islam is faith. Your faith brings you close to your GOD. Why you can't understand that a non believer will not hold any value in faith? Answer his questions and do your duty for Islam, without uttering useless words. If you don't like to do it, why do you come to this thread in the first place?
as far as you understand,Im uttering useless words and not giving logic answers, but for me and some others I may be good and trying to clarify the misconceptions to the non muslims like you. One can be actor for some one, for others he can be villain.!! there is no doubt non believers should ask the question bt with open heart as to understand what is the replies they get.bt unfortunately whoever comes here restricting their knowledge in putting their accusation about islam, when they get answer they act as if they are Montessori children.and again when they put counter question again their brain start to work as to ask some twist question.
What is your genuine question, this is your genuine question?? dont just bluff as if you found something some illogical point with Quran,and we r running away. though quran challenged you people to bring any book like that or find wrong in that.NO body succeeded so far.Including many scientist and non islamic scholors.I hope comparing to scientist and non islamic scholars you r peanuts..Do u think you will defeat islam.we dont label you as anti islamist as long as as you want to learn the islam and question us, bt only we lable as you are anti Islamist as you dont want to understand,and bring something to screw us which we even differ and it is not exactly clear.and why dont u talk about Prophet mohammed did good things and why dont u guys question us why prophet married widows most of them.bt only on aisha? this shows you r not genuine questioner but Genuine Anti islamist..!!
A definition of pedophilia has nothing to do with the original question. He can be a pedophile or not. The questions is, being a middle aged man why did he marry a girl of 6? knowing what that action would do to future society why did he still conduct it? Can't he simply understand what is right and what is wrong? You do not need to defend anyone's actions, I'm not accusing anyone.
Aisha wished to marry Mohammed, and her family wished as well.and their family life was good. we have no proof for having affected their life middle aged man married 9years aisha.so what is d problem for you??? how do u say it it will affect future society...then do u mean current world all muslims are marrying a girl at the age of 9. No we dont do that..see age of puberty cannot be same in all the countries and the communities...and why dont u appreciate that prophet married many widows and gave life to them. even for sake of argument if we accept future society following the prophet, to marry the young girls, it is not he to be blamed but we.coz he married more widows and one 9yrs old. which should encourage us to marry widow and not young. so it is not appropriate to say he showed us wrong path.
percentage of his wives who were 6 when he married - 9%.
So does the small percentage make the action less important?
Here's something for you to think about.
There's a murderer in the prison, his statistics are as follows.
Percentage of crimes that are not murders - 99%
Percentage of crimes that are murders - 1%
So his murder is out of ordinary, He normally do robberies assaults ans stuff like that. Should he not be charged for the murder????
your examples is wrong here, Murder is a crime, Marriage is not a crime.so you r wrong here....% explanation is just to explain his marriage motive was not for the purpose of sex desire from young girl.hope you didnt read properly..
I just brought this to show the lack of logic in this argument. Not to accuse anyone of anything.
my replies proof who has lack of logic!!!
I agree. By today's standards it is considered rape. But maybe not by those days standards.
You see this is where I disagree. His actions have clearly resulted in child marriages, rape, abuses, deaths today. So I cannot understand how one would feel this.
my above replies will suit for this question as well..and in addition to that he is not to be blamed for your rape and abuse..did he show u how to rape,abuse and kill anyone.. this is just your additional blame for your frame of accusation!!
I do not claim this. I just asked what do you think? Is this child abuse? Why not? Nevertheless what has his actions done to today's society?
I dont claim this is an child abuse.I will claim only u people trying to have storied as child abuse as prophet mohammed has never involved in rape and child abuse matter...if i keep silent you will go on to say later that all the crimes of the current world such as child abuse, rape, Gay, lesbians,aids etc..all those things just bec of him...lol!!
Fair enough.
Why did he needed to marry her for this?
Why didn't he utilize the capabilities of an adult woman? Why did he had to marry her and have sex with her at the age of 9 to utilise her capabilities for the sake of Islam?
again my earlier answers will be appropriate for this. Aisha was among one of them. of course Prophet mohammed married adult women as well. you r questioning me as if Prophets mohammed all the wives were young girls....aged 9. moreover even after prophet death, she had opportunity to involve in islamic matter ,educated many with regards to islamic questions, She had profound knowledge of Quran and Sunnah She narrated over 2,000 hadith one of the main narrators which was not done any of the prophet's wife.
Thus the contribution of Aisha was vital, without her perhaps much of the sunnah would have been lost. In addition the marriage also refuted the notion that a man could not marry the daughter of a man who he had declared to be his "brother" (even in the religious sense). Since the Prophet and Abu Bakr had declared each other to be "brothers", this notion was done away with. This is demonstrated in the following hadith:
"Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."" (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18)
So GOD asked him to marry a child and have sex with her? Endangering her life and thousands of others in future? Does GOD understand right and wrong???
God Knows best, perhaps if she has not narrated the highest number of Hadith it would have lost by now..as i said you earlier As Aisha was young she lived for many years even after prophet death. which led to spread the islam for many years with the help of Aisha. as all other wives was comparatively older than her, they couldn't do much for islam and they died much earlier than Aisha.
There's no question about Aisha's importance to Islam After she spent a decade with the prophet. There's no question about her intelligence or skills. The question is why couldn't prophet choose a mature woman who is intelligent to pass his knowledge, why a child?
find above for answers
I do not have any problem with Islam or any other religion. And I do not want to blame any religion, as long as it does not harm anyone. If Islam is responsible for child marriages, rapes, abuses, deaths today, I blame Islam. Is there anything else to blame other than what's responsible?
Having said that I know it is not right to blame anyone but the person who committed the action and those who helped him. These actions are carried out by men in the name of Islam. It's a shame that people's actions reflect on the religion. or maybe its the other way around.
If we want to follow him so,As i said to u above..We have to marry a widow not the young girl.Coz he prefered widows.
Machan be realistic. These kind of statements add nothing. We all know Islam is perfect for muslims. And we all know Islam is not considered perfect by others. I mean, come on man.. We are trying to discuss here.
of course we r not running out from here..you r most welcomed to discuss friend...
Right, like you are desperately trying to defend his actions?
yes, as it helped islam.God and prophet know best!! alhamdulillah
We all have an agenda here, or else we would not be here. I know what my agenda is.. But what amazes me is that you seems to know other peoples motives as well.
What toilet are you talking about here? Are you comparing Islam to a toilet??? And what is the other toilet you are talking about?
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really u don't understand this??:..i meant before all, study ur scriptures well.watever it is !!(christainaty or buddhism) and decide ur self u r in correct path way before u pin point islam or can i treat that u decided ur self that u are inconvinced abt ur religion and looking to learn islam to enter in to the religion of peace(islam)..