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circuitravi

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    AMD Radeon HD 6950 can be turned into an HD 6970 using a BIOS hack

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    Ah, the joy of getting something for nothing -- that's what this time of year is all about, right? The techPowerUp! guys seem to think so, and they've got the perfect gift for all you thrifty PC gaming enthusiasts: a BIOS flash for the Radeon HD 6950 that unlocks the full potential of its hardware (in other words, it turns it into an HD 6970). We already knew the two retail SKUs were built on the same Cayman core, but this hack confirms that all the 6950's performance handicaps have been enacted in software rather than hardware, leaving you all to flip a switch, click a few confirmatory dialogs, and get your game on. You should be aware that the retail 6970 card uses an 8-pin and a 6-pin connector for its auxiliary power whereas the 6950 only has a pair of 6-pin intakes, which might cause trouble under extreme loads, and there's also the fact that you'll most likely be hacking your warranty away together with your GPU's limitations. But hey, you can't make eggnog without cracking a few eggs.

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    asela44

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    Ela machan I just bought the 6950 !! Thanx for the info bro.. Will try this now definitely... Will let you knw how it goes..

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    buddhikamh

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    Machan thanks for the info but its better if you can warn about the negative possibilities of this.

    As anyone can imagine, if something happens and shop people got to know about change of BIOS, they can disregard your warranty claim.

    Thing is with most VGAs this kind of upgrades were able from long time back, main reason being most cards having same hardware structure but restricted by BIOS.
    By these upgrades or hacks you can remove pipeline number restrictions, overclock the GPU, overclock memory etc...

    But this restrictions are there for a reason (apart from the fact manufacturer wanting premium prices by little variation of product).
    If you look at the manufacturing procedure of these GPUs and even CPUs what they do is produce very few main chip models for each series and then they test them.
    Ones which are stable at higher core speeds are branded as higher performing variations (ex: HD6970)
    Ones which are not that stable at higher freq are then tested for a bit less freq, if they pass the test they'll be branded as say HD6950.

    So manufacturers are sure they'll work stable at the specified speeds.

    But by upgrading the BIOS we may go above these thresholds. So it might not be the best for your VGA.

    Anyway only wanted to share my opinion & I'm not 100% sure if this is the case with HD69xx
    series.

    Also cooling of card may be differ between 2 models so you have to think about that too.

    But better to know this before trying anything.
     

    zCexVe

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    Machan thanks for the info but its better if you can warn about the negative possibilities of this.

    As anyone can imagine, if something happens and shop people got to know about change of BIOS, they can disregard your warranty claim.

    Thing is with most VGAs this kind of upgrades were able from long time back, main reason being most cards having same hardware structure but restricted by BIOS.
    By these upgrades or hacks you can remove pipeline number restrictions, overclock the GPU, overclock memory etc...

    But this restrictions are there for a reason (apart from the fact manufacturer wanting premium prices by little variation of product).
    If you look at the manufacturing procedure of these GPUs and even CPUs what they do is produce very few main chip models for each series and then they test them.
    Ones which are stable at higher core speeds are branded as higher performing variations (ex: HD6970)
    Ones which are not that stable at higher freq are then tested for a bit less freq, if they pass the test they'll be branded as say HD6950.

    So manufacturers are sure they'll work stable at the specified speeds.

    But by upgrading the BIOS we may go above these thresholds. So it might not be the best for your VGA.

    Anyway only wanted to share my opinion & I'm not 100% sure if this is the case with HD69xx
    series.

    Also cooling of card may be differ between 2 models so you have to think about that too.

    But better to know this before trying anything.
    At 2 x 6pins, you are already guaranteed to not go over the level. Thus you will not be able to get to that face where the core is failing you, but the power will. If your VGA card fails, that's dead. No one is going to test your BIOS at that point, nor can do :D
     

    buddhikamh

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    At 2 x 6pins, you are already guaranteed to not go over the level. Thus you will not be able to get to that face where the core is failing you, but the power will. If your VGA card fails, that's dead. No one is going to test your BIOS at that point, nor can do :D

    that maybe right.

    But for instance after you do the BIOS upgrade it works fine for some time. Then for some other issue, it stops working correctly (not an entire failure), even if thats not a problem due to BIOS upgrade, if the shop checks the BIOS, they'll know this and wont give your warranty.

    So there is a possibility of this to happen.
     

    asela44

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    that maybe right.

    But for instance after you do the BIOS upgrade it works fine for some time. Then for some other issue, it stops working correctly (not an entire failure), even if thats not a problem due to BIOS upgrade, if the shop checks the BIOS, they'll know this and wont give your warranty.

    So there is a possibility of this to happen.

    I dont think the shops wud do a bios check since we wont be the only customer for them to negotiate. I updated the bios on my 6950 and it works lyk a charm..! You wont be able to make an omlet without cracking an egg.. :lol::lol::lol:
     

    asela44

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    Machan thanks for the info but its better if you can warn about the negative possibilities of this.

    As anyone can imagine, if something happens and shop people got to know about change of BIOS, they can disregard your warranty claim.

    Thing is with most VGAs this kind of upgrades were able from long time back, main reason being most cards having same hardware structure but restricted by BIOS.
    By these upgrades or hacks you can remove pipeline number restrictions, overclock the GPU, overclock memory etc...

    But this restrictions are there for a reason (apart from the fact manufacturer wanting premium prices by little variation of product).
    If you look at the manufacturing procedure of these GPUs and even CPUs what they do is produce very few main chip models for each series and then they test them.
    Ones which are stable at higher core speeds are branded as higher performing variations (ex: HD6970)
    Ones which are not that stable at higher freq are then tested for a bit less freq, if they pass the test they'll be branded as say HD6950.

    So manufacturers are sure they'll work stable at the specified speeds.

    But by upgrading the BIOS we may go above these thresholds. So it might not be the best for your VGA.

    Anyway only wanted to share my opinion & I'm not 100% sure if this is the case with HD69xx
    series.

    Also cooling of card may be differ between 2 models so you have to think about that too.

    But better to know this before trying anything.


    Machan Check this out..

    http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/159

    as for the thread the results..
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    zCexVe

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    that maybe right.

    But for instance after you do the BIOS upgrade it works fine for some time. Then for some other issue, it stops working correctly (not an entire failure), even if thats not a problem due to BIOS upgrade, if the shop checks the BIOS, they'll know this and wont give your warranty.

    So there is a possibility of this to happen.

    You didn't quite get me there. If the card stopped working, for VGAs, there are 2 things. 1, You will never get a display, i.e. card is dead. 2, vertical/horizontal lines. In 1st case no one checks BIOS. In 2nd case, you can still flash the BIOS back.

    Have you ever done a VGA BIOS flash/modification?
     

    asela44

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    Mokekda gon harakek mage Rep kapala.. mee post eke "fake news" kiyala demma kiyala. Mooda Joothayek.. Grr.. Mage puke amaruwatada boruwata wisthara danne. Para ballek :no::no::no::no:
     
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    dagayaa

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    Machan thanks for the info but its better if you can warn about the negative possibilities of this.

    As anyone can imagine, if something happens and shop people got to know about change of BIOS, they can disregard your warranty claim.

    Thing is with most VGAs this kind of upgrades were able from long time back, main reason being most cards having same hardware structure but restricted by BIOS.
    By these upgrades or hacks you can remove pipeline number restrictions, overclock the GPU, overclock memory etc...

    But this restrictions are there for a reason (apart from the fact manufacturer wanting premium prices by little variation of product).
    If you look at the manufacturing procedure of these GPUs and even CPUs what they do is produce very few main chip models for each series and then they test them.
    Ones which are stable at higher core speeds are branded as higher performing variations (ex: HD6970)
    Ones which are not that stable at higher freq are then tested for a bit less freq, if they pass the test they'll be branded as say HD6950.

    So manufacturers are sure they'll work stable at the specified speeds.

    But by upgrading the BIOS we may go above these thresholds. So it might not be the best for your VGA.

    Anyway only wanted to share my opinion & I'm not 100% sure if this is the case with HD69xx
    series.

    Also cooling of card may be differ between 2 models so you have to think about that too.

    But better to know this before trying anything.

    :yes::yes: