IF Allah is so forgiving , why did he create Death ?
he should not have created death so he can be truely forgiving to the living beings who suffer from death
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IF Allah is so forgiving , why did he create Death ?
he should not have created death so he can be truely forgiving to the living beings who suffer from death
පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7395914 said:
An important point to be noted is that Allah besides being Merciful and Forgiving, He also has to give severe punishment to the deserving wicked or evil people, because He is also Just. The Qur’an mentions in Surah Nisa: "Allah is never unjust in the least degree". [Al-Qur’an 4:40]
It is further mentioned in Surah Al-Ambiya:
"We shall set up scales of justice for the day of Judgement, so that not a soul will be dealt with unjustly in the least. And if there be (no more than) the weight of a mustard seed, we will bring it (to account): and enough are we to take account".
[Al-Qur’an 21:47]
also strict in giving punishment to the deserving. The Qur’an mentions in several verses that Allah will give severe punishment to the unbelievers and rejecters of faith. He will give punishment to all those who disobey Him. Several verses of the Qur’an describe the various types of severe punishment that Allah will give in hell to all those who disobey.
"Those who reject our Signs, we shall soon cast into the Fire; as often as their skins
Are roasted through, we shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise". [Al-Qur’an 4:56]
So You have to taste the death...!!
Machan Ilovesl...
He is trying to escape from the evils that he has done machan...!!if he is a atheist ask him why nature so unfair that some people die at the old age and some others in young age,it is not unfair????and what is the scientific explanation or reason for that..surely no one could answer this and no one even know when some one even die also .That much weak their nature or science..
ONLY GOD knows and can decide this.GOD IS GREAT!!!
He is trying to escape from the evils that he has done machan...!!if he is a atheist ask him why nature so unfair that some people die at the old age and some others in young age,it is not unfair????and what is the scientific explanation or reason for that..surely no one could answer this and no one even know when some one even die also .That much weak their nature or science..
ONLY GOD knows and can decide this.GOD IS GREAT!!!
පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7396661 said:
Just bec Buddha was a good person, You cant simply say Buddha is Lord. Buddha is simply like us, he is a human being who has two eyes, one mouth, one nose, two ears.then how he be Lord. LORD character should be OPPOSITE TO HUMAN. IF all the characters are same as human, lord is ceased to be Lord..
if u accept buddha is lord, then also u have to accept Krishna, Rama, moses, mohammed, Jesus as LORD, as they were also good spiritual leaders.
But we don't treat all of the above as LORD, but good leaders and prophets thats old.
Non practising doctor is not a medical doctor,a dn they lose their license to be a doctor. Case closed.
No it's not a fact, it's a lie. Chinese were the first to propose four-dimensional universe in 500 BC, 2500 years before Einstein. Their astronomical knowledge was second to none.
And here is what Wiki says
Islam were not the father of heliocentric model. You can draw your own conclusions from it.
Lord Buddha was the greatest human being ever lived on earth.
Because he discovered a novel and greatest way to end the suffering of all living beings which others have failed to discover. and Lord Buddha was able to teach his findings to many others so they can also benefit.
These are your opinions based on your beliefs , hence invalid
We don't have to. Also Moses , Mohammed and Jesus are not considered as lords , they are considered as prophets of god yet in real terms they were not the real prophets.
Muhammed was not a good spiritual leader. he was mentally ill and evil.
again its your opinion based on what you believe , and invalid.
පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7397248 said:
WHAT IS EVERYTHING INVALID...USE UR BRAIN FIRST OF ALL BEFORE SAY EVERYTHING INVALID...
Dont reply me, I feel it is not worth to chat with you.. Quran already predicted and seen the people like you..this quran versus relevant to you as well.
Surah Bakarah, Ch. 2, Verse No. 18. It says… ‘Summoon, Bukmoon, Ummyoon Fa Lahum layar jeoon’. ‘the deaf, the dumb, the blind, they will not return to the path’.
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what is the path?? killing disbeleivers and earn credits from gods in the heaven.
any why does the most merciful and most powerful god failed to put them into the path?? does god let them to choose their own path or god put them into the wrong path, actually who does this???
why the god can't be convert all the human beings to islam??? if it so no conflict with disbeleivers isn't it??
IS THE SIN HAPPENS ACCORDING TO GOD WILL AHH?????
what is the path?? killing disbeleivers and earn credits from gods in the heaven.
any why does the most merciful and most powerful god failed to put them into the path?? does god let them to choose their own path or god put them into the wrong path, actually who does this???
why the god can't be convert all the human beings to islam??? if it so no conflict with disbeleivers isn't it??
IS THE SIN HAPPENS ACCORDING TO GOD WILL AHH?????
Now don't put blame on God. God time to time sent his revelation to the human beings, final version of the revelation is Quran with that God has said he stopped &sealed his revelation, all the humans should follow final & last revelation that is Quran and promised to protect the Quran from corruptions.
What Can God do when your forefather selected wrong path,i.e see Jews rejected bible, Christians rejected Quran. maybe your ancestors also would have rejected the latter religions which was revealed time to time(assume that your religion also revealed once upon a time and Buddha was a prophet)
Simply telling God will all happening is stupidity, a Teacher taught you correctly, he provided good text book in order to pass the particular exam, if a student failed in exam without following the same text book which was provided by teacher. It is not Teacher mistake, but yours. neither u cant say You are clever and make me pass. coz, everything require a test to see which one of u good.
what is the path?? killing disbeleivers and earn credits from gods in the heaven.
any why does the most merciful and most powerful god failed to put them into the path?? does god let them to choose their own path or god put them into the wrong path, actually who does this???
why the god can't be convert all the human beings to islam??? if it so no conflict with disbeleivers isn't it??
IS THE SIN HAPPENS ACCORDING TO GOD WILL AHH?????
Now don't put blame on God. God time to time sent his revelation to the human beings, final version of the revelation is Quran with that God has said he stopped &sealed his revelation, all the humans should follow final & last revelation that is Quran and promised to protect the Quran from corruptions.
What Can God do when your forefather selected wrong path,i.e see Jews rejected bible, Christians rejected Quran. maybe your ancestors also would have rejected the latter religions which was revealed time to time(assume that your religion also revealed once upon a time and Buddha was a prophet)
Simply telling God will all happening is stupidity, a Teacher taught you correctly, he provided good text book in order to pass the particular exam, if a student failed in exam without following the same text book which was provided by teacher. It is not Teacher mistake, but yours. neither u cant say You are clever and make me pass. coz, everything require a test to see which one of u good.
you said that all happening according to god is stupidity and im glad to hear that from a muslim.
ok then tell me the meaning of word "WAL KADHAR". im not telling this look at this thread
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=653874
who is stupid???
so chosen a wrong path is a sin.then who claimed for that sin of our forfathers sir????
ofcoz your teachers argumany is failed in this manner. becoz
1. teacher wont sent any student to teach his student even that student is so eminant.
2. teacher tests the student because he doesnt know the level of the student. so if god test people that means god doesn't know the levels of humans. then he is not all known.
3. if a student failed the exam then teacher punished him and banished then can we accept that teacher as a most mercyful teacher??
4. teacher wont give her text book to follow the exam but others text book???
you said that all happening according to god is stupidity and im glad to hear that from a muslim.
ok then tell me the meaning of word "WAL KADHAR". im not telling this look at this thread
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=653874
Ya..Qadr mean of course Allah knows best in advance,in regards to our activities and everything in the world.
Allah (swt) mentions in Surah Al Baqarah chapter 2 verses 6 and 7
"As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them Whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.
Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)." [Al-Qur’an 2:6-7]
The Arabic words used are al-lazina kafaroo, those who are bent on rejecting the truth. It will not make any difference to such people whether you warn them or not, they will not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil. It is not because Allah has set a seal on their hearts that these kuffar do not understand and believe, but it is the vice-versa. It is because these kuffar are bent on rejecting the truth and whether you warn them or not they will not believe, that Allah has set a seal on their hearts. Therefore Allah is not to blame, but these kuffaar who are bent on rejecting the faith are responsible.
who is stupid???
so chosen a wrong path is a sin.then who claimed for that sin of our forfathers sir????
Just bec your forefathers did, you cant follow the same.neither they will be punished for your sin. Coz God gave you knowledge in order to identify which is right and wrong.
ofcoz your teachers argumany is failed in this manner. becoz
I dont understand how u made my argument wrong...
1. teacher wont sent any student to teach his student even that student is so eminant.
I dont understand what u wrote here..can u explain me further,
2. teacher tests the student because he doesnt know the level of the student. so if god test people that means god doesn't know the levels of humans. then he is not all known.
Have you heard any of the teacher allowed some one who is so eminent to go to A/L before passing the O/L. or You heard any teacher stopped someone in writing O/L just bec teacher know he will not pass & go to A/L.
Here even if a teacher exactly predicts so, It is not fair some one to allow or stop to A/L. likewise Allah knows everything, it is not fair some one to put in the hell just bec he knew or predicted(Qadr) he will behave wrongly.the same person may argue with allah that if u have allowed me to live, I would have done good deeds and gone to heaven. so that, what allah do is testing the people as to who is good in the good deeds, he knows in advance what we will do, it is not versa..
3. if a student failed the exam then teacher punished him and banished then can we accept that teacher as a most mercyful teacher??
Yeah, Teacher already told to you that she/he will punish you if u fail in exam, so it is reasonable punishing the student, at the same time who passed the exam get RED carpet reception.
4. teacher wont give her text book to follow the exam but others text book???
I dont understand..
Allah (swt) mentions in Surah Al Baqarah chapter 2 verses 6 and 7
"As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them Whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.
Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)." [Al-Qur’an 2:6-7]
The Arabic words used are al-lazina kafaroo, those who are bent on rejecting the truth. It will not make any difference to such people whether you warn them or not, they will not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil. It is not because Allah has set a seal on their hearts that these kuffar do not understand and believe, but it is the vice-versa. It is because these kuffar are bent on rejecting the truth and whether you warn them or not they will not believe, that Allah has set a seal on their hearts. Therefore Allah is not to blame, but these kuffaar who are bent on rejecting the faith are responsible.
who is stupid???
so chosen a wrong path is a sin.then who claimed for that sin of our forfathers sir????
Just bec your forefathers did, you cant follow the same.neither they will be punished for your sin. Coz God gave you knowledge in order to identify which is right and wrong.
ofcoz your teachers argumany is failed in this manner. becoz
I dont understand how u made my argument wrong...
1. teacher wont sent any student to teach his student even that student is so eminant.
I dont understand what u wrote here..can u explain me further,
2. teacher tests the student because he doesnt know the level of the student. so if god test people that means god doesn't know the levels of humans. then he is not all known.
Have you heard any of the teacher allowed some one who is so eminent to go to A/L before passing the O/L. or You heard any teacher stopped someone in writing O/L just bec teacher know he will not pass & go to A/L.
Here even if a teacher exactly predicts so, It is not fair some one to allow or stop to A/L. likewise Allah knows everything, it is not fair some one to put in the hell just bec he knew or predicted(Qadr) he will behave wrongly.the same person may argue with allah that if u have allowed me to live, I would have done good deeds and gone to heaven. so that, what allah do is testing the people as to who is good in the good deeds, he knows in advance what we will do, it is not versa..
3. if a student failed the exam then teacher punished him and banished then can we accept that teacher as a most mercyful teacher??
Yeah, Teacher already told to you that she/he will punish you if u fail in exam, so it is reasonable punishing the student, at the same time who passed the exam get RED carpet reception.
4. teacher wont give her text book to follow the exam but others text book???
I dont understand..
1.if the allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil
so then what is the purpose in dawah (missionary) in islam to non beleivers??
as you mention if god not to blame then it is contradict the word that all the sins and goods are happen acordings to allah's will????
and if allah give the childrens to peoples why does he give birth to disbeleivers???
why does he can't use his super power to make people to the right path???? if it so he doesnt need any hell to put people and no conflicts with nations and religons
if god give the knowledge to identify right and wrong doesnt he aware what will the human identify??
if yes why the god is unable to make him to identify only right things?
if no he is not almighty.
in teacher argument i said if allah like taecher why doesn't he come before the peoples like teacher go before the student without sending nabees?? if he does so whole world will accept islam??
and if allah knows in advance what we will do and he knows everythings he sould exactly knows who will go to heaven and who will go to hell it is ok test peoples in a good manner as teachers do but what he did hear is
*blind or deaf childrens
*give mentally ill childrens
*make peoples kill or poor by sendings tsunamees, eirth quacks
like many more
can you compare those test with the test what teachers giving.
why does the teacher punish to poor student when he gets failed. that must be cruelty. and also if teacher knows he will exactly failed why does he teach him. like wise if allah knows some one will exactly go to hell after death why does he giv a birth to him.
1.if the allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil
so then what is the purpose in dawah (missionary) in islam to non beleivers??
as you mention if god not to blame then it is contradict the word that all the sins and goods are happen acordings to allah's will????
It is not contradiction, first allah knows in advance that who will accept the truth.it is not bec allah sealed the the heart he cant understand the truth.but otherway around,,again i need to answer from first i hope, Suppose an experienced teacher, before the final examinations, predicts that a particular student will fail in the exams, since the student is very mischievous, not attentive in class and does not do his homework. If after the student appears for the examination, he fails, who is to be blamed for the student failing: the teacher or the student? Just because the teacher predicted, it does not mean that the teacher is to be blamed but the student himself is responsible for his failure.
Similarly Allah (swt) knows in advance that there are some people who are bent on rejecting the faith and Allah has put a seal on their hearts. Thus these non-Muslims themselves are responsible for rejecting the faith and not Allah (swt).
And even it doesnt stop us giving thawah to non believers, as Allah says in Quran call them to correct path.
and if allah give the childrens to peoples why does he give birth to disbeleivers???
why does he can't use his super power to make people to the right path???? if it so he doesnt need any hell to put people and no conflicts with nations and religons
See if allah need to make everybody as muslim he can make simply, see God favour any human kind including giving children, to whom is muslim or non muslim.Allah says Human kinds are superior to any in the world.
“And surely We have honored the children of Adam, and We carry them in the land and the sea, and We have given them of the good things, and We have made them to excel by an appropriate excellence over most of those whom We have created.” (Sura The Isrealites (17) verse 70)
and as a muslim we are obliged to tell non muslim about the correct path, unless we tell even we will be Questioned at the judgement day.
if god give the knowledge to identify right and wrong doesnt he aware what will the human identify??
if yes why the god is unable to make him to identify only right things?
if no he is not almighty.
If everyone can only able to identify and do the right things then there is no point of creating the hell, isn't it. allah given the neutral knowledge to everyone, it is up to us whether to use right manner or not.after doing wrong things we cant blame god for our sin.Man has to prove what he is worth in the sight of Allah , as he was created to worship Him
by such thoughts, words and actions which gain Allah's approval.
‘Surely, ALLAH is my Lord and your Lord, so worship him this is the right path.'” (Sura The Family of Imran (3) verse 51)
Even so man was not created as a mere robot, but he was honored as a thinking being with the possibility to understand the Divine Will , much as our cosmos is not a closed mechanism, but open and dynamic.
in teacher argument i said if allah like taecher why doesn't he come before the peoples like teacher go before the student without sending nabees?? if he does so whole world will accept islam??
Almighty God’ is a Creator - but if he has got a human form like you and me - one head, two eyes, one nose, one mouth, two hands – ‘the Creator’ attribute is correct, but the characteristic of a human form is wrong.So besides the attributes being Unique, it should not be mixed up with false attributes. And the third is that the attribute, - the various attributes that you give to Allah should point only to one Allah - not more than that - Because there is Only One ..‘Say He is Allah, one and only’
So what he did was, he picked one among of us (prophet) asked him to spread the religion with his revelation(User manual), see to operate a TV , Producer of TV will not come to you, what he will do is he will produce a USER MANUAL and market the TV through his dealers.it is not necessary Producers him self come & tell u wat to be done..If u study the manual correctly it is enough to operate the TV.
God does not become a human being but only takes a human form. If God only takes a human form but does not become a human being, He should not possess any human qualities. We know that all the ‘God-men’, have human qualities and failings. They have all the human needs such as the need to eat, sleep, etc.
The worship of God in human form is therefore a logical fallacy and should be abhorred in all its forms and manifestations.
That is the reason why the Qur’an speaks against all forms of anthropomorphism. The Glorious Qur’an says in the following verse:
"There is nothing whatever like unto Him." [Al-Qur’an 42:11]
and if allah knows in advance what we will do and he knows everythings he sould exactly knows who will go to heaven and who will go to hell it is ok test peoples in a good manner as teachers do but what he did hear is
*blind or deaf childrens
*give mentally ill childrens
*make peoples kill or poor by sendings tsunamees, eirth quacks
like many more
can you compare those test with the test what teachers giving.
1st of all Taking example here never say teacher equal to God, just to explain you clearly only i take example.Tsunami,earthquake and all also test of the God. see the blind and mental case, they get 100 out of 100 marks with regards to doing the evil things with eye and brain..for eg,if some one born as poor person he will get 100 marks in the zakath (charity)coz he need not give any charity.but if we are born as rich we will have to satisfy the god by giving or helping the needy people,then only we can get good marks,so even being a rich also one of test in which we have to satisfy God.
why does the teacher punish to poor student when he gets failed. that must be cruelty. and also if teacher knows he will exactly failed why does he teach him. like wise if allah knows some one will exactly go to hell after death why does he giv a birth to him.
At first, in Islam we say: Allah is our Lord, man is the vicegerent on earth and Allah is the All-Merciful , man is the servant of Allah
the seldom thankful servant
So, instead of love towards man, we speak of Allah's Mercy and Great Bounty
Secondly, when punishment is due, it is because the harmony and balance of things have been upset
The purpose of punishment in this world :to rescue man from the chain of his evil thoughts, words and actions and to lead him back to the right path
and The purpose of punishment in the coming life :to purify the soul of man from the consequences of his evil and godless thoughts, words and actions, and finally to prepare him for unending peace .
like i said earlier, man's destiny is known only to Allah , he was, however, created with a free will, and can therefore, in principle, choose which action to take, for Allah inspired him with the understanding of good and evil.
“Say: O my people! act according to your ability; I too am acting; so you will soon come to know, for whom (of us) will be the (good) end of the abode; surely the unjust shall not be successful.” (Sura Cattle (6) verse 135)
“Then He inspired it to understand what is right and wrong for it;” (Sura The Sun (91) verse 8)
