මාංශ භා නිර්මාංශ ආභාර Must read it And Undesrtand

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මොනාද...කෝ දැන් උයාගෙ කැරපොත්තා...:රෝල් අයිස්:

 

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මොන කැරපොත්තද?ගෙදර ඉන්න උන් ද :ලොල්:

 

[ela_eluwa120]

මොන කැරපොත්තද?ගෙදර ඉන්න උන් ද :ලොල්:

උයාගෙ හුරතලා..

 

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ඊක් මට පෙන්නන්න බෑ....

 

[sudunone]

දැක්කනේ.. සිරාජ්ලට කන්ඩලු සත්තු මරලා තියෙන්නෙ. ඒ නිසා අනික් අය කෑවට පවක් නෑ මයෙ හිතේ... සිරාජ්ට කන්ඩනේ මරලා තියෙන්නෙ

එපමණකින්ම ත්‍රිකෝටිපාරිශුද්ධ! දවසේ කතාව.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

ඊක් මට පෙන්නන්න බෑ....

ලොල්..ඒ වුනාට උයා කබඩ් එකේ දාලා ඇතිකරානෙ..

 

[sirajstc]

ඔයා දැක්කද ... දන්නේ නැතුව දොඩවන්නේ නැතුව ඉදින්..LOL

 

[ela_eluwa120]

ඔයා දැක්කද ... දන්නේ නැතුව දොඩවන්නේ නැතුව ඉදින්..LOL

ලොල්...එයා උයාගෙ නේද..

 

[sirajstc]

මගේ නෙමෙයි

 

[ela_eluwa120]

මගේ නෙමෙයි

 

[sirajstc]

එලුවාගේද?

 

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ඌරු මස් සශායි

 

[amila_90210]

සිරා දාන ඒවයෙ තේරුම් සිරාවත් දන්නවද දන්නෑ ලොල්
අපිට පහසුවෙන්ම ගන්න පුළුවන් තයමින්(B1) වැඩිම ආහාරය සහල් වැනි ධාන්‍ය
Essential amino acids කියන්නේ එවා අපට අත්‍යාවශ්‍ය නිසා නොව ඒවා සිරුරේ නිපද නොවෙන නිසා බව නොදන්නා අයට මතක් කර දෙමි
මිනිසාගේ රදනක දත් මැවී ඇත්තේ ක්‍ෂීණ වෙන තත්වයකය lol
අනේ අපටත් කොටියෙකුට වැනි රදනක ශත් මැව්වානම් දෙවියන් වහන්සේ යෙහෙකි

PS සිරාජ් ගේ ත්‍රෙඩ් වලින් මා සන්තෝශයට පත්වන්නේ එහි ඇතම් ප්‍රකාශ කියවා උපදින හාස්‍යය නිසාමමැයි

 

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සිරා දාන ඒවයෙ තේරුම් සිරාවත් දන්නවද දන්නෑ ලොල්
අපිට පහසුවෙන්ම ගන්න පුළුවන් තයමින්(B1) වැඩිම ආහාරය සහල් වැනි ධාන්‍ය
Essential amino acids කියන්නේ එවා අපට අත්‍යාවශ්‍ය නිසා නොව ඒවා සිරුරේ නිපද නොවෙන නිසා බව නොදන්නා අයට මතක් කර දෙමි
මිනිසාගේ රදනක දත් මැවී ඇත්තේ ක්‍ෂීණ වෙන තත්වයකය lol
අනේ අපටත් කොටියෙකුට වැනි රදනක ශත් මැව්වානම් දෙවියන් වහන්සේ යෙහෙකි

PS සිරාජ් ගේ ත්‍රෙඩ් වලින් මා සන්තෝශයට පත්වන්නේ එහි ඇතම් ප්‍රකාශ කියවා උපදින හාස්‍යය නිසාමමැයි

අනික දත් තිබ්බ පලියට හැම දහ ජරාවම කන්න ඕනි යෑ

 

[gotayimbara]

See Mr.Senator

Dont argue foolish.Allah has created the humans as one of the top creation in the world.and Quran say we can have non veg.even most of the hindus called themselves as vegetarians based on some sort of useless proof though their scriptures even allowed to eat like quran.So,please mind it, not only Quran has permitted to eat non veg, even almost all religions allow this. not much argument required for proving this.even a simple following reason can prove this.

If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep,
you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have
a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth
of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of
pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of
humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they
have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are
omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only
vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He
expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian
food.

The Teeth Argument is a complete fallacy and circular:

1. Muslims/ Catholics don't believe in "Darvenian Theroy of Evolution"
2. They believe God created all humans and animals.
3. Hence it must be God who also created teeth.
4. The to a person who doesn't believe in Creation theory, a person refusing evolution theory cannot use "teeth premise" as proving the argument by example.

Just binary logic, nothing to do with the topic...

 

[gotayimbara]

Question:
Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume non-vegetarian food?
Answer:
‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement theworld over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights.
Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.
Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.

1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian
A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.

2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:
"O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals with the exceptions named."
[Al-Qur’an 5:1]
"And cattle Hehas created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 16:5]
"And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 23:21]

3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.

4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.

5. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?

6. Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-vegetarian food

• There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian. They think it is against their religion to consume non-vegetarian food. But the true fact is that the Hindu scriptures permit a person to have meat. The scriptures mention Hindu sages and saints consuming non-vegetarian food.
  
  
• It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30
  
  "The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad, even if he does it day after day, for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater."
  
  
• Again next verse of Manu Smruti, that is, chapter 5 verse 31 says
  
  "Eating meat is right for the sacrifice, this is traditionally known as a rule of the gods."
  
• Further in Manu Smruti chapter 5 verse 39 and 40 says
  
  "God himself created sacrificial animals for sacrifice, ...., therefore killing in a sacrifice is not killing."
  
• Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Pitris (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied. Paragraph reads as follows:
  "Yudhishthira said, "O thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitiris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! WhatHavi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time? What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?"
  "Bhishma said, "Listen to me, O Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each. With sesame seeds and rice and barely and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, O king, remain gratifiedfor the period of a month. With fishes offered at Shraddhas, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With the mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer thatare called Prishata, they remaingratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months, With the meat of the bufffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said , lasts for a full year. Payasa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years. The flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible. The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible.
  So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.

7. Hinduism was influenced by other religions
Though Hindu Scriptures permit its followers to have non-vegetarian food, many Hindus adopted the vegetarian system because they were influenced by other religions like Jainism.

8. Even plants have life
Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.

9. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.

10. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses.
Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.
In fact the Qur’an says:
"O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good"
[Al-Qur’an 2:168]

11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.

12. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become non-vegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.

* Argument 3: is only a beneficiary factor of eating meat. It has nothing to do with the argument. Since the one's point of view in an argument benefit in some way, that point of view may not be necessarily true. This is simply a coaxing point that may prompt another to accept his/her viewpoint
* Argument 4: Simple fallacy.
* Argument 8,9,10: Involve the definition of a term "what should we define as animals whose meat we eat?". If parties have clarified what this term would mean, then one cannot redefine it in the middle of the argument. If he/she wishes to do so, it would be another argument.
* Argument 11: True only if slaughter by humans is the only cause for the demise of cattle. The argument has simple fallacy

Others I figured to have no bind with the argument so cannot say much.

 

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Originally Posted by thilina1024
සහෝදරයා, මම අද තමයි මේ ත්‍රෙඩ් එක දැක්කේ. කවුරු කොහොම මොනවා කීවත්, ඕනෙම දෙයක් ගැන හිතන්න අපිට බුද්ධියක් තියෙනවා. අපි මිනිස්සුනේ. බුදු දහමේ මස් කන්න කියලවත් එපා කියලවත් නෑ. නමුත්, බුදු දහමේ පර පන නැසීම සහ සතුන් වෙළෙඳාම කෙළින්ම ප්‍රතික්ෂේප කරලා තියෙනවා. නමුත්, පණ ඇති සතුන් මැරීම ප්‍රතික්ෂේප කිරීමෙන්ම මස් කෑමත් ප්‍රතික්ෂේප වෙනවා. මොකද, මරන්නේ නැතුව කන්නේ කොහොමද. බුදු හාමුදුරුවෝ ඇවිල්ලා කිව්වත් (සමා වෙන්න ඔනා මෙහෙම කියන්න වුනාට ) සත්තු මරාගෙන කාපල්ලා කියලා, බුද්ධිමත් සහ සදාචාරසම්පන්න විදිය මොකක්ද කියලා විමසලා වැඩ කරන්න මිනිස්සුන්ට මොලයක් තියෙනවා.

අපි ආගම් පැත්තකින් තියමු. ඔය මිනිස්සු මරන සත්තු ,තමන්ගේ කැමැත්තෙන්ද මරන තැනට යන්නේ?. වැරදිලා හරි සතාම එතනට ගියා කියමුකො. ඌ මැරෙන්නෙ කැමැත්තෙන්ද?. ඌට රිදෙන්නේ නැද්ද?. හරි අපි එළවළු පළතුරු ගන්නෙත් පණ තියෙන ගස් වලින් කියමුකො. සහෝදරයා ඒක කියලා සත්තු මරන එක සාධාරණය කරන්නද හදන්නේ?. ඔය මැරෙන සත්තුන්ට කතා කරන්න පුලුවන් වුනා නම් කියයි, මරන වෙලාවේ තියෙන ෆන් එක කොහොමද කියල.

සහෝදරයා, මෙ වගේ දේවල් තර්ක කරල විතරක් විසඳන්න පුලුවන් ප්‍රස්න නෙමේ.

"තම තම නැණ පමණින් දැන ගත යුතු"

කට්ටිය අහල තියෙනවද "අපෝහක තර්කනය" ගැන?. අපේ මව් භාෂාවෙන් ඒකට කියන්නේ "Fuzzy Logic". තර්කයෙන් විතරක් හැමදේම විසඳන්න බෑ

Agree. Ape agame(catholic) kiyala thiyena hatiyata sattu mawala thiyenne apita maragena kanna wagema sattunta nathi deyak apita GOD deela thiyenawa eka thama ape mole apita sattunta wada hithanna puluwan. Ann e mole use karala wada kaloth me widiyata sattu marana eka waradie kiyala therum yanawa. Awurudu bara gaanakata kalin liyapu pothaka mas kaapalla kiyala kiyala thibba paliyata mas kaawama harida

This is a fabulous point I think.
Unlike other religions which only rely on a clear set of rules to define the way of life, I have found that no where Buddhism has laid out any rules, only GUIDELINES. If by our intellect we can "exploit" those guidelines to make more guidelines so that everybody can benefit, that would be very good.

 

[gotayimbara]

ha ha ..you didnt even get that correctly! he was humuliating you by extending your own arguments pathetic man!

Originally Posted by sudunone
Talking about teeth, we have 4 pointed teeth, which become blunt very soon. In contrast, we have 12 flat teeth. Wisdom teeth are a set of flat teeth that appear as a person matures.
Many people loose most of their teeth, specially the front ones, as they age.

Personally, I believe we have pointed teeth in order to open bottles, chew nails and bite away plastic tags on clothes.
Your answers are babish. VERY GOOD YOU CAN SAVE SOME MONEY BUYING IN OPENER and SCISSORS
I think you r not worth to be debated with.

Very good Sudunone, admirable:
Carnivorous teeth does not necessarily mean eating flesh: example, elephants, wild boar (herbivorous) does have elongated carnivorous teeth.

 

[sudunone]

11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/07/muslim.world.population/index.html

CNN Report says: Nearly one in four people worldwide is Muslim -- and they are not necessarily where you might think, according to an extensive new study that aims to map the global Muslim population. CNN Story page says Islam winning converts in Western world The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years


TIMES ONLINE Says : Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society'