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dinuksha_asela

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    It depends on the SAM capability of the other side. heard that Ukraine (or Mercenaries) using Stingers and other ManPads.. so most of the Low flying SU-25s, Helos like KA-52s and MI-24/35 are pretty vulnerable. this will be mostly true to any Airforce around the world unless the other party is someone ill equipped like Taliban or ragtag Army... there was a Incident that Russia has used their Stealth jets and made a kill which was obvious that since Manpads couldn't handle those low observable aircraft. one instance was that MIG 31 has engaged a Ukrainian SU-27 which operate from Belarus Airspace and used BVR missile.
     

    Dr.Sheldon_Suprakata

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    Russia නෙවෙයි බන් , US air force එකෙන් ආවත් ඔච්චර තමයි Stinger manpads වපුරලා වගේ තියෙනකොට. අනිත් එක Ukraine border එකේ NATO & UK උන්ගේ surveillance plane යනවා. උන් 24hrs ඔය airspace එක monitor කරනවා . Russia උන් base එකෙන් උඩට නග්ගනකොටම අනිත් පැත්තේ උන්ට intel එක ගිහිල්ලා ඉවරයි. :baffled:
     

    mirissanew

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    Russia නෙවෙයි බන් , US air force එකෙන් ආවත් ඔච්චර තමයි Stinger manpads වපුරලා වගේ තියෙනකොට. අනිත් එක Ukraine border එකේ NATO & UK උන්ගේ surveillance plane යනවා. උන් 24hrs ඔය airspace එක monitor කරනවා . Russia උන් base එකෙන් උඩට නග්ගනකොටම අනිත් පැත්තේ උන්ට intel එක ගිහිල්ලා ඉවරයි. :baffled:
    Manpads vadak na echchara jets vakata viruddava
     

    monson

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    Russia නෙවෙයි බන් , US air force එකෙන් ආවත් ඔච්චර තමයි Stinger manpads වපුරලා වගේ තියෙනකොට. අනිත් එක Ukraine border එකේ NATO & UK උන්ගේ surveillance plane යනවා. උන් 24hrs ඔය airspace එක monitor කරනවා . Russia උන් base එකෙන් උඩට නග්ගනකොටම අනිත් පැත්තේ උන්ට intel එක ගිහිල්ලා ඉවරයි. :baffled:




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    mirissanew

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    It depends on the SAM capability of the other side. heard that Ukraine (or Mercenaries) using Stingers and other ManPads.. so most of the Low flying SU-25s, Helos like KA-52s and MI-24/35 are pretty vulnerable. this will be mostly true to any Airforce around the world unless the other party is someone ill equipped like Taliban or ragtag Army... there was a Incident that Russia has used their Stealth jets and made a kill which was obvious that since Manpads couldn't handle those low observable aircraft. one instance was that MIG 31 has engaged a Ukrainian SU-27 which operate from Belarus Airspace and used BVR missile.
    I don't see the relationship between manpads and the stealth aircrafts. Stealth aircrafts are vulnerable to manpads if they opted to fly low. I agree with the other things
     

    sarika406

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    Modern conventional wars are not about winning or conquesting other nations. Russia is a land forces dominated country. Unlike western counterparts, In Russian Air warfare is only used for air superiority and strategic targeting( as far as I know they have no good aircraft other than old MIG 27 to provide CAS (close air support)for ground forces). But till Kerch Strait Bridge attack Russians did not target Ukranian centres of gravities (COG) (before you wage war you have to identify and destroy or capture enemy COG to win a war this is one basic factor of military planning). By estimating how brigade size Russian forces turn the tide of Syrian war and how they destroyed second Chechen war and appoint pro-Russian president. It seems that Russia doesn't want to end the Ukranian war, they want a protracted war.

    I don't see the relationship between manpads and the stealth aircrafts. Stealth aircrafts are vulnerable to manpads if they opted to fly low. I agree with the other things
    no they don't when we talk about stealth it is mainly RADAR stealth, MANPAD stands for man portable air defence those are mainly Russian made strella msl or stingers. to fire this you need to see the aircraft and it should be low or medium altitude. stinger is a good msl but Argon canister in stinger BCU only cool seeker head for less than 1 minute so you have to find and lock target within that time if not you cannot fire the msl. I don't have much experience in air warfare but i think nobody will use stealth aircraft in daytime in low altitude but if the country has S300 or 400 system or other ADM they will surely engage stealth aircraft.
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    mirissanew

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    Modern conventional wars are not about winning or conquesting other nations. Russia is a land forces dominated country. Unlike western counterparts, In Russian Air warfare is only used for air superiority and strategic targeting( as far as I know they have no good aircraft other than old MIG 27 to provide CAS (close air support)for ground forces). But till Kerch Strait Bridge attack Russians did not target Ukranian centres of gravities (COG) (before you wage war you have to identify and destroy or capture enemy COG to win a war this is one basic factor of military planning). By estimating how brigade size Russian forces turn the tide of Syrian war and how they destroyed second Chechen war and appoint pro-Russian president. It seems that Russia doesn't want to end the Ukranian war, they want a protracted war.


    no they don't when we talk about stealth it is mainly RADAR stealth, MANPAD stands for man portable air defence those are mainly Russian made strella msl or stingers. to fire this you need to see the aircraft and it should be low or medium altitude. stinger is a good msl but Argon canister in stinger BCU only cool seeker head for less than 1 minute so you have to find and lock target within that time if not you cannot fire the msl. I don't have much experience in air warfare but i think nobody will use stealth aircraft in daytime in low altitude but if the country has S300 or 400 system or other ADM they will surely engage stealth aircraft.
    ------ Post added on Oct 29, 2022 at 9:47 PM
    They are not using mig 27 i think. They have old su24 and relatively new (very beautiful su 34) for close air support
     
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