7 Conditions For a Woman's Dress In Islam

[jess]

Nice. Pull out the racist card again.

On the subject of racism and economic development. Do you know that the US was terribly racist at one time (still is to a certain extent), but still managed to become the superpower of the world?

this place still is very racist.... everyone against everyone.

 

[x-pert]

Personally I don't think that a religion should control what human should wear.

It should be a fundamental human right of every individual.

Religion should help to civilize the human mind, where even if the woman is fully naked, just to ignore her and to live their own damn life.

As an example, if you have a stomachache, it's no point applying medicine on your foot. You should fight with the real cause.

So what's the better option?
1. To force women to cover their whole body?
2. OR to teach/ educate men to behave properly.

 

[jess]

Personally I don't think that a religion should control what human should wear.

It should be a fundamental human right of every individual.

Religion should help to civilize the human mind, where even if the woman is fully naked, just to ignore her and to live their own damn life.

As an example, if you have a stomachache, it's no point applying medicine on your foot. You should fight with the real cause.

So what's the better option?
1. To force women to cover their whole body?
2. OR to teach/ educate men to behave properly.

100% agree....

 

[x-pert]

Well the other point is,

Everybody should be intelligent enough to realize that all those prophets were in this world many many years ago. (Buddha, Jesus, Muhammed, Ganesh.. you name it.)

So the culture, attitudes, life styles were very different from the present day.

If you analyse the history, you can see almost all the women wore a complete dress which covered their whole body those days. Even the whores were wearing complete dresses.

So you cannot practice EVERYTHING what those books say at present. (Books means, Quaran, Bible, Thripitaka, Bhagawan geetha... again you name it!)
Coz all those books are really old now, and it may not apply to current context.

People should be intelligent enough to realise this

 

[saharaz]

if you are really looking for a better solution ????????

then implement the capital panishment for the rapist ...........

 

[jess]

if you are really looking for a better solution ????????

then implement the capital panishment for the rapist ...........

EXACTLY! thats the way it should be, but its not like that in middle eastern countries, the victim get the punishment, stoned to death or hanged... now thats not right.

 

[just]

OBSECENE is the key word here.... do u know wat obscene means?? it dont mean showing leg or arms or dressing in a cute dress or outfit.... obsecene means something vulgar, vulgar meaning nudity or sex, and i agree with that and i beleieve that should also be in affect in all countries because i dont like the idea of my children seeing such nastiness. thats totally different from wat im referring to... yall are saying the "hijab" or watever u call it, is to prevent rape, but from my point of view, that protection dont exist. it wont protect from anything.

i totally agree that there is a limit, otherwise ur being disgusting and i wont like some nasty women walking around my husband or my children with her boobs hanging out or her ass cheeks....

i think we are falling off the train here people

i guess now we coming into a point where we can have a decent dialouge.

OBSECENE = designed to incite to lust or depravity, according to merriam-webster.

yes it means vulgar meaning nudity or sex as well, but here consider the point what they talking.

• they not reffering to nudity or sex cos we already have laws for them and theres no tv, or papers that publicly publish them.

• no guidelines have been drawn on how photographs or programmes would be considered as "Obscene".

  so if it nudity or sex they wouldnt find difficult to draw guidlines

• two popular dance programmes on two separate television stations had already been identified as those going against the existing laws

  sirasa dancing start etc are very popular among guys, cos they get to see more womens body parts than normal others programmes.again not nudity or sex.

• effort to reduce what they call sexual crime against children and women.

  so its mostly men who commit the crime not women.

i totally agree that there is a limit, otherwise ur being disgusting and i wont like some nasty women walking around my husband or my children with her boobs hanging out or her ass cheeks....

thats exactly my worry too..i'm so firm on this cos as i see there are underliying resons for the crimes and number of sick persons go up.and woman taking up to dress modestly is a gud solution..
but thing is you say how they shouldnt dress, but still coudnt give your idea on what they should follow when dressing.

 

[saharaz]

DON’T SAY THAT THE GLORIOUS AL QURAN IS OUT DATED

Well the other point is,

Everybody should be intelligent enough to realize that all those prophets were in this world many many years ago. (Buddha, Jesus, Muhammed, Ganesh.. you name it.)

So the culture, attitudes, life styles were very different from the present day.

If you analyse the history, you can see almost all the women wore a complete dress which covered their whole body those days. Even the whores were wearing complete dresses.

So you cannot practice EVERYTHING what those books say at present. (Books means, Quaran, Bible, Thripitaka, Bhagawan geetha... again you name it!)
Coz all those books are really old now, and it may not apply to current context.

People should be intelligent enough to realise this

THE QUR’AN CONTAINS A COMPLETE CODE OF LIFE FOR THE
INDIVIDUAL AND SOCIETY PRESENT AND FUTURE . ALHAMDULILLAH (PRAISE BE TO ALLAH)
ALLAH THOSE WHO CLAIM THAT THE QUR’AN HAS BECOME OUTDATED AND NEEDS TO BE REVISED TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS NEW AGE, CANNOT GRASP THE FACT THAT THE QUR’AN IS NOT CONFINED BY THE CHAINS OF TIME BUT COVERS ALL AGES AND SOCIETIES, AS IT HAS BEEN REVEALED BY ALLAH WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYTHING, PAST AND FUTURE. WHEN ONE READS THE QUR’AN WITH A SINCERE HEART AND AN OPEN MIND, ONE SEES THAT THE MODELS OF PEOPLE AND SOCIETIES DESCRIBED IN THE QUR’AN EXISTED IN EVERY AGE IN HISTORY, INCLUDING THAT OF TODAY. PLEASE CHECK BELOW I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE SUMMERY OF RECENTLY DISCOVERED SCIENTIFIC FACTS ……. IF YOU WANT IN DETAIL DON’T WORRY I CAN GIVE YOU SO PLEAS DON’T SAY THAT THE GLORIOUS AL QURAN IS OUT DATED
THE CHALLENGE OF THE QUR’AN

EVEN NON-MUSLIM SCHOLARS AGREE THAT THE QUR’AN IS
ARABIC LITERATURE PAR EXCELLENCE – THAT IT IS THE BEST
ARABIC LITERATURE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THE QUR’AN
CHALLENGES MANKIND TO PRODUCE THE LIKES OF IT:

ASTRONOMY
CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE: ‘THE BIG BANG’
INITIAL GASEOUS MASS BEFORE CREATION OF GALAXIES
SHAPE OF THE EARTH IS SPHERICAL
MOONLIGHT IS REFLECTED LIGHT
THE SUN ROTATES
THE SUN WILL EXTINGUISH
INTERSTELLAR MATTER
THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE

PHYSICS ATOMS CAN BE DIVIDED

HYDROLOGY
THE WATER CYCLE
EVAPORATION
WINDS IMPREGNATE CLOUDS

GEOLOGY
MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE TENT PEGS
MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

OCEANOLOGY
BARRIER BETWEEN SWEET AND SALT
WATERS
DARKNESS IN DEPTHS OF OCEAN

BOTANY
PLANTS HAVE MALE AND FEMALE
FRUITS HAVE MALE AND FEMALE
EVERYTHING MADE IN PAIRS

ZOOLOGY
ANIMALS AND BIRDS LIVE IN
COMMUNITIES
THE FLIGHT OF BIRDS
THE BEE AND ITS SKILL
SPIDER’S WEB, THE FRAGILE HOME
LIFESTYLE AND COMMUNICATION OF ANTS

MEDICINE
HONEY: HEALING FOR HUMANKIND

PHYSIOLOGY
BLOOD CIRCULATION AND MILK

EMBRYOLOGY
DROP EMITTED FROM BETWEEN THE
BACK BONE AND THE RIBS
NUTFAH – MINUTE QUANTITY OF
LIQUID
SULALAH – QUINTESSENCE OF LIQUID
NUTFATUN AMSHAAJ – MINGLED
LIQUIDS
SEX DETERMINATION
FOETUS PROTECTED BY THREE VEILS OF DARKNESS
EMBRYOLOGICAL STAGES
EMBRYO PARTLY FORMED AND
PARTLY UNFORMED
SENSE OF HEARING AND SIGHT

GENERAL SCIENCE
FINGERPRINTS
PAIN RECEPTORS IN THE SKIN

FOR ALLAH IS EXALTED IN POWER, WISE.” [AL-QUR’AN 4:56]
DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND, THEY WILL NOT RETURN (TO THE PATH).” [AL-QUR’AN 2:18]

[THOSE WHO WERE CHARGED WITH THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE MOSAIC LAW BUT WHO SUBSEQUENTLY FAILED IN THOSE OBLIGATIONS, ARE LIKE A DONKEY WHICH CARRIES HUGE TOMES WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THEM. EVIL IS THE EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO FALSIFY THE SIGNS OF ALLAH: AND ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE PEOPLE WHO DO WRONG.] (AL-JUMU`AH 62:5)
DON’T SAY THAT THE GLORIOUS AL QURAN IS OUT DATED

 

[TΞΞNSTAR™]

So what's the better option?
1. To force women to cover their whole body?
2. OR to teach/ educate men to behave properly.

Islam teaches and instruct us to follow both the options u mentioned above..

 

[just]

sdsdsd

Personally I don't think that a religion should control what human should wear.

It should be a fundamental human right of every individual.

Religion should help to civilize the human mind, where even if the woman is fully naked, just to ignore her and to live their own damn life.

As an example, if you have a stomachache, it's no point applying medicine on your foot. You should fight with the real cause.

So what's the better option?
1. To force women to cover their whole body?
2. OR to teach/ educate men to behave properly.

i agree with your point..but sure you too might have an idea as to whats modesty when dressing? im sure you want except the idea of naked women/man selling pop corns to your kid.

so why don't you clearly state wheres the line for it? if you have a line, then whats the solution to prevent ppl from going over that line...

thanks

 

[TΞΞNSTAR™]

So you cannot practice EVERYTHING what those books say at present. (Books means, Quaran, Bible, Thripitaka, Bhagawan geetha... again you name it!)
Coz all those books are really old now, and it may not apply to current context.

People should be intelligent enough to realise this

Well IF those books have faults and shortcomings then it may not apply to the current situation.. but the Holy Quraan is a Book which is dedicated to all the mankind for all time.. it suits for every situation ..

 

[funkoluwa]

Personally I don't think that a religion should control what human should wear.

It should be a fundamental human right of every individual.

Religion should help to civilize the human mind, where even if the woman is fully naked, just to ignore her and to live their own damn life.

As an example, if you have a stomachache, it's no point applying medicine on your foot. You should fight with the real cause.

So what's the better option?
1. To force women to cover their whole body?
2. OR to teach/ educate men to behave properly.

Y should not? What u gonna loose from it?
Its very funny u said a man can just ignore a naked women, u should b a gay to ignore it, b practical x-pert dont think these suggestions will work in real word Islam is all about realty. U aint gonna gain anything by seeing a naked women neither fully covered women accept the second women gets more respect from men

 

[just]

Personally I don't think that a religion should control what human should wear.

It should be a fundamental human right of every individual.

Religion should help to civilize the human mind, where -> even if the woman is fully naked <-, just to ignore her and to live their own damn life.

As an example, if you have a stomachache, it's no point applying medicine on your foot. You should fight with the real cause.

So what's the better option?
1. To force women to cover their whole body?
2. OR to teach/ educate men to behave properly.

100% agree....

but sis you said

i totally agree that there is a limit, otherwise ur being disgusting and i wont like some nasty women walking around my husband or my children with her boobs hanging out or her ass cheeks....

 

[x-pert]

sdsdsd
i agree with your point..but sure you too might have an idea as to whats modesty when dressing? im sure you want except the idea of naked women/man selling pop corns to your kid.

so why don't you clearly state wheres the line for it? if you have a line, then whats the solution to prevent ppl from going over that line...

thanks

Oh come on mate.. I didn't say 'naked' literally. No one will ever like to see a woman roaming around naked.

That was just an example I took to show the 2 options.

Wearing modest clothes is upto that particular person. Not for any religion to decide. That was my point.

Irrespective of the religion, women should know how to behave in a respectable manner. But it shouldn't be a religious law like this.

Anyway on the other hand I respect muslims who wear hijab, if it is their belief. Coz people do have different belief systems and no one should question it

 

[x-pert]

Well IF those books have faults and shortcomings then it may not apply to the current situation.. but the Holy Quraan is a Book which is dedicated to all the mankind for all time.. it suits for every situation ..

That wasn't my point.

All those books have common behavioural patterns. Which can be applied to many situations.

But those books were written on the influence of culture, attitudes and values which was there at that time.

As an example, Bible doesn't say Not to drink wine. Because it was their cultural habit that time. But buddhism says not to drink. Islam says to punish the wrong doer - which was applicable that time because of the uncivilized nature of men. But the bible says to forgive the wrong doer - again those were the attitudes and the culture they had those days.

So, all religions do have some cultural influence in them That was my point.

 

[saharaz]

That wasn't my point.

All those books have common behavioural patterns. Which can be applied to many situations.

But those books were written on the influence of culture, attitudes and values which was there at that time.

As an example, Bible doesn't say Not to drink wine. Because it was their cultural habit that time. But buddhism says not to drink. Islam says to punish the wrong doer - which was applicable that time because of the uncivilized nature of men. But the bible says to forgive the wrong doer - again those were the attitudes and the culture they had those days.

So, all religions do have some cultural influence in them That was my point.

HELOOOO HELOOOO IF YOU DON'T KNOW AL QURAN AND BIBLE JUST SHUT UP DON'T COM AND LIE AROUND HERE YOU UNDERSTAN BIBLE ALSO COMMANDING NO TO CONSUME ALCHOL / WINE YOU UNDERSTAND .....

Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible

The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:

a. “Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is
deceived thereby is not wise.” [Proverbs 20:1]

b. “And be not drunk with wine.” [Ephesians 5:18]

IF YOU DON'T KNOW JUST SHUT UP

 

[TΞΞNSTAR™]

Islam says to punish the wrong doer - which was applicable that time because of the uncivilized nature of men.

Aha.. I got the Point which you are trying to make..

Anyway im not gonna comment about it.. coz i dont want anyone to label me as a Racists..

These arguments never see an end.. so me

 

[TΞΞNSTAR™]

HELOOOO HELOOOO IF YOU DON'T KNOW AL QURAN AND BIBLE JUST SHUT UP DON'T COM AND LIE AROUND HERE YOU UNDERSTAN BIBLE ALSO COMMANDING NO TO CONSUME ALCHOL / WINE YOU UNDERSTAND .....

Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible

The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:

a. “Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is
deceived thereby is not wise.” [Proverbs 20:1]

b. “And be not drunk with wine.” [Ephesians 5:18]

IF YOU DON'T KNOW JUST SHUT UP

Seems Something Went Wrong Somewhere for X-Pert...

 

[just]

Oh come on mate.. I didn't say 'naked' literally. No one will ever like to see a woman roaming around naked.

That was just an example I took to show the 2 options.

Wearing modest clothes is upto that particular person. Not for any religion to decide. That was my point.

Irrespective of the religion, women should know how to behave in a respectable manner. But it shouldn't be a religious law like this.

Anyway on the other hand I respect muslims who wear hijab, if it is their belief. Coz people do have different belief systems and no one should question it

got the point..

Irrespective of the religion, women should know how to behave in a respectable manner. But it shouldn't be a religious law like this.

its not a religious law im correcting you in case. its not like a you cant be a muslim without wearing hijab. only thing is its set of instruction for muslim women who like to behave in a respectable manner...cos respectable behavior when collectively done it'll help the betterment of the society

yeah i agree there are some cases of forcing by blind followers, but thats a very very tiny peice.

Islam says to punish the wrong doer - which was applicable that time because of the uncivilized nature of men.

now are men civilized? i dont see any different in then and now, in fact people are getting more sick with this so called "CIVILIZATION".things that happened those days not so publicly are happening now in broad daylight..

.

 

[x-pert]

HELOOOO HELOOOO IF YOU DON'T KNOW AL QURAN AND BIBLE JUST SHUT UP DON'T COM AND LIE AROUND HERE YOU UNDERSTAN BIBLE ALSO COMMANDING NO TO CONSUME ALCHOL / WINE YOU UNDERSTAND .....

Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible

The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:

a. “Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is
deceived thereby is not wise.” [Proverbs 20:1]

b. “And be not drunk with wine.” [Ephesians 5:18]

IF YOU DON'T KNOW JUST SHUT UP

Sorry, I didn't express my self properly.

I was telling about the core principles. (Main sins.)

pan sil and ten commandments etc.

Coz in buddhism, they say sura merayta maddapama gattana weramanee sikkha padan samaadiyami.

But the 10 commandments in Catholicism doesn't say anything about drinking alchohol. Well even the 1st miracle of Jesus is turning water into wine. So you get what I meant?

Well.. Don't argue about the Bible coz I'm a catholic and I know about it better than you do. (Not by searching the websites. But by studying it.)

Sorry about the earlier confusion due to lack of time.