ADSL Auto Connect with router

[thilinapm]

i thought of this router stucking/freezing thing but my router(and many others too.. i guess) runs a small scaled down version of linux inside. so i gave the freezing thing a second thought

But anyways thees cheap routers must not be so good with handling so much bittorrent traffic + p2p traffic....etc so it may be the reason.

But anyways is'nt there any kind of automated way to resolve this problem?

u mean this stucking prob no.
4 my knowledge nope there is no automatical way to solve this.

 

[Anusha]

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....

It could happen with torrents.
Because from private trackers, you are not supposed to leech from two IP addresses at the same time.

Also if you are downloading something through your browser, then it will get canceled as well. But if you use a Download Accelerator/Manager, it should be fine, if the server supports resuming.

So you have to plan things out a bit. Don't start downloading big files (through the browser) if you've had been connected for a while.

TBH, I don't run into such problems with the IP refresh thingy. I'm using that software.

 

[dineitdark]

Well i think i got it wrong, all the pcs connected to a route have there own private ips so even if the public ip of the router changes, the PCs won't really need to bother about it. cause all they do is forward all the packets to the router(which is the default gateway). but when the ip changes it breaks all the connections that the PCs were having with the outside world as those servers, apps, PCs in the outside world don't know about the IP change.

Well i m not sure of any of thees, just guessing

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....

 

[Anusha]

i thought of this router stucking/freezing thing but my router(and many others too.. i guess) runs a small scaled down version of linux inside. so i gave the freezing thing a second thought

But anyways thees cheap routers must not be so good with handling so much bittorrent traffic + p2p traffic....etc so it may be the reason.

But anyways is'nt there any kind of automated way to resolve this problem?

Cheap router? Hehe. My modem is the crappiest modem a person could find in the whole world.

 

[thilinapm]

Well i think i got it wrong, all the pcs connected to a route have there own private ips so even if the public ip of the router changes, the PCs won't really need to bother about it. cause all they do is forward all the packets to the router(which is the default gateway). but when the ip changes it breaks all the connections that the PCs were having with the outside world as those servers, apps, PCs in the outside world don't know about the IP change.

Well i m not sure of any of thees, just guessing

yeah ur correct on that.

 

[dineitdark]

wow! its like this, i have

BearFlix + BitTyrant(a modfied version of the populer Azureus client) + eMule + gaim running in the background. I don't uselly use the browser to hadel any downloads...

But the thing is all of this stops! and when it does stop i can't even ping google! like the n/w b/w usage is 0!!!

 

[Anusha]

wow! its like this, i have

BearFlix + BitTyrant(a modfied version of the populer Azureus client) + eMule + gaim running in the background. I don't uselly use the browser to hadel any downloads...

But the thing is all of this stops! and when it does stop i can't even ping google! like the n/w b/w usage is 0!!!

Is it possible to manually give the router a period to refresh the connection? You problem happened to me too. The IP address was changed, but the connection was still there, but couldn't do any transfers (because the IP address is wrong)

SLT connections' IP refresg time is 10 hours (600 minutes). If you can make the router reset the connection every 599 minutes, I think your problem will go away. That's what I do through ADSL Autoconnect. I refresh it every 599 minutes, without automating it. Try it...

 

[tckrockz]

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....

mine is Prolink

 

[dineitdark]

A: well im gonna try that, i updated my router's firmware and since its very slow to respond(the web interface is so slow when i am online), may be the reason is the fact that i have some 5 virtual servers configured??? i don't know, gotta go in and have a look for that settings in the router's conf

tckrockz: ok then its not a problem with my router.... it seems

 

[Anusha]

A: well im gonna try that, i updated my router's firmware and since its very slow to respond(the web interface is so slow when i am online), may be the reason is the fact that i have some 5 virtual servers configured??? i don't know, gotta go in and have a look for that settings in the router's conf

tckrockz: ok then its not a problem with my router.... it seems

What's with the virtual servers?

 

[dineitdark]

Its rather Port forwarding entries i should say virtual servers is the term used in USR configuring interfaces. i guess now you get it.

What's with the virtual servers?

 

[Anusha]

Its rather Port forwarding entries i should say virtual servers is the term used in USR configuring interfaces. i guess now you get it.

I have no idea about them

 

[dineitdark]

its like when you are behind a router with a private ip you cannot accept any incomming connections from the internet with out configuring your router for that.

becasue all the packets that leave the router goes with the source ip of the router's interface. so all of the PCs behind the router communicate with the net under that ip. router makes this process trance parent by doing stuff to the packet header when they pass through it. but when application need to accept incoming connections from the net. they can't do it cause, they are trying to connect to the router rather than the real pc which runs the service/app. so in order to solve this the routers do something called port mapping. which when configured will forward any packets that the router receives for a certain port to a specified machine in the LAN.

so as i run a lot of bittorrent clients and stuff they need to get incoming connections to run at the full speed. so i've add some entries. but when there are more entries there are more work for the router. so i suspected that this slows down the router, but im not sure about that.

Read www.portforwarding.com 's guides... i am not a good explainer

 

[Anusha]

its like when you are behind a router with a private ip you cannot accept any incomming connections from the internet with out configuring your router for that.

becasue all the packets that leave the router goes with the source ip of the router's interface. so all of the PCs behind the router communicate with the net under that ip. router makes this process trance parent by doing stuff to the packet header when they pass through it. but when application need to accept incoming connections from the net. they can't do it cause, they are trying to connect to the router rather than the real pc which runs the service/app. so in order to solve this the routers do something called port mapping. which when configured will forward any packets that the router receives for a certain port to a specified machine in the LAN.

so as i run a lot of bittorrent clients and stuff they need to get incoming connections to run at the full speed. so i've add some entries. but when there are more entries there are more work for the router. so i suspected that this slows down the router, but im not sure about that.

Read www.portforwarding.com 's guides... i am not a good explainer

Woah! It's not easy using a router, as I thought.

 

[dineitdark]

No thats the hard way, if your router supports UPnP then it will automatically configure this stuff???? not sure though. Anyways its not harder as it seems.

Woah! It's not easy using a router, as I thought.

 

[Anusha]

No thats the hard way, if your router supports UPnP then it will automatically configure this stuff???? not sure though. Anyways its not harder as it seems.

Then I should look out for that when I'm buying one.

 

[charmer]

Few Hints when u buy a router for Home and office networking

Make sure your router has inbuilt DHCP Server(which gives IP address for every connected PCs)

buy a router with inbuilt ADSL modem so you wouldnt have to set up ur user name and password everytime when your modem unpluged or reset.

If you buy a D-Link WiFi router, you can replace its antena with powerful D-Link external antena and extend signal strength upto 2Km range.

I think all this connection drops problem can be solved with buying a router with inbuilt ADSL modem. onse you configure them right nothing else you have to do.

inbuilt modem on the router can solve the problem of finding USB drivers for external Modems.

 

[Anusha]

I think all this connection drops problem can be solved with buying a router with inbuilt ADSL modem. onse you configure them right nothing else you have to do.

inbuilt modem on the router can solve the problem of finding USB drivers for external Modems.

Actually, an ADSL router IS an ADSL modem with several LAN ports (and routing capabilities).

 

[charmer]

I have no idea about them

dineitdark info say it all,

Normaly all the incoming connections from outside will be forwarded to your WAN IPort???(the IP which your ISP assigned for you). you can check your default gateway or WAN IP address by checking your connection properties.

So when you have a router, if somebody type your WAN IP from outside str8away it connects to your router config menu cos thats the last port before router allows the incoming connection to go through your Local area network (which is your PC and all other devices connects to the router).

so you can break this barrier by configuring router to forward the connection to your LAN IP address and PORT by using

DMZ
Portforwarding
virtual servers (comes with the list off all the famous Servers and their ports, easy to select and forward to your PC)

All these three words do the same thingy but come as seperate options.

Anyways, good to see you guys having fun with ADSL in srilanka.

and how about the speed down there???

Br,

 

[charmer]

Actually, an ADSL router IS an ADSL modem with several LAN ports (and routing capabilities).

And you may find non ADSL routers without Inbuilt modem but can be used with external ADSL modem. different ISP provides different type of connections and equipments for broadband connections too. like NTL and BT in UK

Br