Hey mate, yeah back after a long time, Actually AMD is loosing the server market to Intel these days because of the Nehalem Based Server chips, AMD's only hope of survival on desktop market is the Bulldozer Architecture that will come in 2011, it has a lot of potential well just have to wait and see, Shanghai (Phenom II) will do just fine through 2010, AMD has the experience biting the dust, in the end they always kicks intel ass, thats why I really like AMD.