Android or IOS ?

[miyuru4u]

I can agree with one thing which is remove unused system apps to get more space. But other than that I don't agree with you.

The sms app that you installed after removing the default sms app, what was additional features you were looking for? Were you able to send something which can not be sent with the default one? If yes, do the other party have to have the same sms app to view those messages? or their default messaging app can be used to view those message?

If you remove the passcode thingy after rebooting your phone, where is the security?
If you want to shut down cpu's 2 core's when the phone is in idle, what is the use of it?
I am not sure about the sound quality once you customize sound on your phone.
Even you think some system messages are stupid in Android..

One thing still I cannot understand which is, why those companies do not release those phones with rooted access even though they know that people can root their phones. (They are talking about Android is open source, but with some restrictions.) Even Google Pixel is not coming with root access. Why?

At the end of the day people like you can do the Android customization. But not everyone, and still they have the same reasons like you do to prefer Android over iOS.

Thanks bro...

Additional features are automatic SMS backup , SMS Privacy box, of course better look, scheduled sms, send sms with my pc etc ... alot more

remove the passcode but still need to unlock it by iris or fingerprint so their is much security for me

I only need to shutdown my 2 cores ones phone is in standby so it reduce batt usage .. and when my phone do some big tasks they automaticaly turned on ..

Search about Viper4android sound option if you dont abt sound quality

yes for me some system message are not necessary
high volume usgae warning message - i simply disbled it
high brightness usage warnning
some startup setup tutorials - that i do not want

companies do not release root access because after that phone is vulnerable to security issues like secure pay , private folder thing etc..
if you are a mobile developer then i assume you know this stuff right ?

i am pretty sure anybody can replace their default sms app with 3rd party sms app and access to other features they need
its so simple like that

 

[The_Killer]

android

Haa

 

[aj1]

Soo...

1. I like the idea of entering the master passcode after device restart because it has everything to do with security. Good luck if you're phone is stolen by someone because of a stupid thing you doesn't wanted to have.

2. Yeah, unlike android, iOS doesn't show "stupid" messages my fren. Even you're very low on space, the phone doesn't say shit or lag unlike android. . So yeah, iOS users don't need to go into that deep.

3. Aaah.. yes bro. very good point. Refer to apple latest phone A11 Bionic Chip and A10 specifications. It uses idle CPU cores to perform very low end tasks and for games and other high performance power hungry tasks, it uses the high performance cores. This came into light in Apple A10 chip and vastly improved on A11 Bionic chip.

So iOS users who has iPhone 7 onward don't want to disable their cores either neda?

4. I assume you're talking about 2 facebook app accounts to control 2 facebook accounts etc. Yeah i have no idea about this. never wanted to do that so I give you a point for that due to me being not able to answer to that question.

Cheers..!!

PS:
Ooh.. Yeah iOS gives the freedom to remove built-in unwanted apps now. So yeah, we have that option too.

Facebook messenger app in iOS supports to login with two different FB accounts. It allows to switch between accounts. But can use one account at at time.

Yes, iOS gives the freedom to remove built-in apps. But that's a kind of lie.
You can test this by your self if you have an iOS device with iOS 11.
Remove a built-in app. Then go offline and go to AppStore and try to install the removed app. Yes, you can install that app even without using internet.

I really appreciate your points above. I know that shutting down the processors when the device is in idle will increase battery life, but Apple utilize that in a better way. End user does not have to worry about that like Android users do.

 

[miyuru4u]

Soo...

1. I like the idea of entering the master passcode after device restart because it has everything to do with security. Good luck if you're phone is stolen by someone because of a stupid thing you doesn't wanted to have.

2. Yeah, unlike android, iOS doesn't show "stupid" messages my fren. Even you're very low on space, the phone doesn't say shit or lag unlike android. . So yeah, iOS users don't need to go into that deep.

3. Aaah.. yes bro. very good point. Refer to apple latest phone A11 Bionic Chip and A10 specifications. It uses idle CPU cores to perform very low end tasks and for games and other high performance power hungry tasks, it uses the high performance cores. This came into light in Apple A10 chip and vastly improved on A11 Bionic chip.

So iOS users who has iPhone 7 onward don't want to disable their cores either neda?

4. I assume you're talking about 2 facebook app accounts to control 2 facebook accounts etc. Yeah i have no idea about this. never wanted to do that so I give you a point for that due to me being not able to answer to that question.

Cheers..!!

PS:
Ooh.. Yeah iOS gives the freedom to remove built-in unwanted apps now. So yeah, we have that option too.

ok my phone is stolen and he dont need the master passcode but still need the finger print so how is he gona unlock my phone ?

 

[The_Killer]

Facebook messenger app in iOS supports to login with two different FB accounts. It allows to switch between accounts. But can use one account at at time.

Yes, iOS gives the freedom to remove built-in apps. But that's a kind of lie.
You can test this by your self if you have an iOS device with iOS 11.
Remove a built-in app. Then go offline and go to AppStore and try to install the removed app. Yes, you can install that app even without using internet.

Yes I have updated to iOS 11.
Yeah not a big concern bro. I keep the stock apps coz there is a small issue with the region i'm in. So they don't bother me. I occasionally remove my cache using a 3rd party app just record more photos and videos.

 

[The_Killer]

ok my phone is stolen and he dont need the master passcode but still need the finger print so how is he gona unlock my phone ?

Hard reset the phone using hardware keys.

 

[miyuru4u]

Yes I have updated to iOS 11.
Yeah not a big concern bro. I keep the stock apps coz there is a small issue with the region i'm in. So they don't bother me. I occasionally remove my cache using a 3rd party app just record more photos and videos.

what about someone who doesnt like stock apps?

 

[miyuru4u]

Hard reset the phone using hardware keys.

so then it will ask for master passcode so what ?

 

[The_Killer]

what about someone who doesnt like stock apps?

They have ability to uninstall the apps as aj1 said. He only raised the question taht the phone keeps a small cache of setup file of that app. SO uninstalling will go away the app from the phone screen but it can be installed when we go offline as well.

 

[miyuru4u]

They have ability to uninstall the apps as aj1 said. He only raised the question taht the phone keeps a small cache of setup file of that app. SO uninstalling will go away the app from the phone screen but it can be installed when we go offline as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/62c2ml/i_really_wish_you_could_change_default_apps_on_ios/

can you now do it ?

 

[The_Killer]

so then it will ask for master passcode so what ?

Now a moment ago you said you have no need of passcode for your android device. Iris and FP can be bypassed using hard reset mode dude.

iOS won't allow to get pass initial setup process without entering the iCloud email id and password. So basically stolen apple phone is only good for spare parts. I have my security of data protection at safe hands.

 

[Local Disk (c:)]

I believe all the opinions in this thread are biased.

However, as a Mobile QA engineer I am using all sort of Android and iOS devices (Phones and Tablets) in my day to day life. With my current experience, so far I prefer iOS over Android.

Would be nice to know the answers for the followings as a part of your above comment.
1. Which Android Phone are you using at the moment?
2. Which Android device did you customize?
3. What features did you customize on Android?
4. What are the reasons for customize those features?
5. What can you explore on Android devices which can not be explored on iOS?

I believe most of the Android user's don't have the knowledge to customize their phones. Nobody is using most of the features in their daily activities either. So if you talk about customization, you are referring to very limited number of people. Out of those people, they will be using those customized features for a short time period. Once they passed the honeymoon period, they will fallback to stock apps again.

Once you customized your device, you can not guarantee the stability of the OS.

Also if you are referring "customization" as an app which can be downloaded from PlayStore to change wallpapers, ringing tones, add widgets and bla bla bla... then you're not talking about "customization". Because most of the people who has the same idea about the Android OS over iOS, they will bring customization and open source in to the table. But they really don't have a clue about what they are talking.

Open for conversation.. Cheers

1. Which Android Phone are you using at the moment? used Sony Xperia Z2 for 2 years
2. Which Android device did you customize? All the devices that i used
3. What features did you customize on Android? Third party SMS apps that provide great featues,I can select LTE only which is really helpful, i used to change the theme after while when i fed up seeing same old theme..come on you now what can i do with android..aaand do you want to know the real customization that i have done?
dual booted the android os with custom rom.
patched the kernal(or whatever i dont know the exact term..just followed the guide from XDA) so that i can reduce the clock speed of the CPU and improve the battery life more..and these are the things that i have done..some other users might have done different things accordance to their preference

4. What are the reasons for customize those features? coz i want it..its that simple
5. What can you explore on Android devices which can not be explored on iOS? ok listen up

do you know where is auto brightness settings in IOS11? do you think its in settings>Display & Brightness? noo its in settings>General> Accessibility>Display Accomedation>auto brightness.. see how ridiculous it is? with android just pull down the notification center and boom

can you change the video resolution from camera app..you cant

with notification light you dont want to turn on the display always just to see whether you have new notification or not..you even can identify the type of notification by its colour..awesome isnt it?

can you realize how stupid 100mb cellular data download limit in app store?(of course they increased it to 150mb in ios 11..but still stupid)even the facebook app got 142mb in app store..how ridiculous?

and the last thing i want torrent downloading...

these things may be small features..but it makes life lot easier

 

[miyuru4u]

Now a moment ago you said you have no need of passcode for your android device. Iris and FP can be bypassed using hard reset mode dude.

iOS won't allow to get pass initial setup process without entering the iCloud email id and password. So basically stolen apple phone is only good for spare parts. I have my security of data protection at safe hands.

machan thats what we call android custamization
no need passcode after the reboot only
no one can reset it without passcode

resetting and rebooting is 2 different processes

 

[The_Killer]

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/62c2ml/i_really_wish_you_could_change_default_apps_on_ios/

can you now do it ?

Why not. Please get updated with the technology.

You can ask Siri to play a song on spotify, hail cabs using Uber and some other big company apps, book tables in restaurant for x number of people etc.

Read the thread comments of the link you've posted. Samsung TouchWiz ain't android. It ruins android.

 

[The_Killer]

machan thats what we call android custamization
no need passcode after the reboot only
no one can reset it without passcode

resetting and rebooting is 2 different processes

Yeah i'm done wasting my breath on you. You don't seem to understand security over customization

 

[miyuru4u]

Why not. Please get updated with the technology.

You can ask Siri to play a song on spotify, hail cabs using Uber and some other big company apps, book tables in restaurant for x number of people etc.

Read the thread comments of the link you've posted. Samsung TouchWiz ain't android. It ruins android.

yanne koheda malle pol

I am talking about replacing default apps not Siri integration for some apps, without making them the default apps.

 

[miyuru4u]

Yeah i'm done wasting my breath on you. You don't seem to understand security over customization

You dont even understand it bro
thats why you are still an Apple user

 

[aj1]

yanne koheda malle pol

I am talking about replacing default apps not Siri integration for some apps, without making them the default apps.

There is no need to remove all the default apps. At least iOS 11 allows to remove some of them without hard work (jailbreaking).

Like I said before, at the end of the day "Android Customisation" comes in to small number of users (only tech savvy people).

 

[dildude]

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[Local Disk (c:)]

There is no need to remove all the default apps. At least iOS 11 allows to remove some of them without hard work (jailbreaking).

Like I said before, at the end of the day "Android Customisation" comes in to small number of users (only tech savvy people).

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nope..nowadays even school children know how to root android..your statement is correct back in 2010-2012,,but now majority of the people are tech savvy..
most of the ios users still live in 2012-2014 era..that era was gone..