Are Muslim women oppressed?

sri_lion

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scooby_doo said:
middle east people make problems to your womens..... higanno ay middle east yanne owa danagenath

Its not our women's problems if they cannot control their half-dicks!! :rolleyes:

Our politicians are also to be blamed for this! :frown:
 

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scooby_doo said:
middle east people make problems to your womens..... higanno ay middle east yanne owa danagenath

Why do you people always place the blame on the victim and not the perpetrator? :baffled:
 

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Hmmm... godak aya saudi gana katha karanawa Mehe inna Sri Lankan Gahanu Gana katha karanawa... mam kiyanney Nadeesha oaya site ekata infomation o'ne nam oya lankawata badak ussan Ena gahanungen Interview ganna o'ne nam o'ya A'ka meheta Awillama Ganna try Ekak Denna...(kawadaawath oya A'ka karanney naha) ethakota labena Uththarey mama newei me saudiwala inna Muslim Nowana Elakiri membersla Ouaya uththara dei Eyala gana.. (okkoma naraka naha.. hondin inadala hondin hambakaran yana ayath innawa puluwannam Eyalagenuth wisthara hoyaganna balanna oya hadanna yana site Ekata)
 

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Yes, because Mohamed condoned slavery as evident by the quran. Most wrong doings of Muslims can be traced to the quran and the examples set by Mohammed.

Where in the quran it says this..can you quote for us to see??
 

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sri_lion said:
Its not our women's problems if they cannot control their half-dicks!! :rolleyes:

Our politicians are also to be blamed for this! :frown:

Hi Sri Lion

I am residing in Saudi Arabia, Hence I know some thing abt these maids.80% of the maids are corrupt and cunning (including sinhala tamil and muslim maids) the start affairs with drivers ...etc do various nefarious actvities.If they get punished they blatently put the blame on the saudi sponser.Also I must say a lot of Saudis are cruel too.They mistreat their maids.This has nothing to do with Islam.

Hope you can see my point.
 

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Hi Sri Lion

I am residing in Saudi Arabia, Hence I know some thing abt these maids.80% of the maids are corrupt and cunning (including sinhala tamil and muslim maids) the start affairs with drivers ...etc do various nefarious actvities.If they get punished they blatently put the blame on the saudi sponser.Also I must say a lot of Saudis are cruel too.They mistreat their maids.This has nothing to do with Islam.

Hope you can see my point.

i do agree !!!!!!
i' have seen many ....... i'm sad and ashamed to see the mischives of my fellow sri lankan sisters .....
 

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The Messenger said:
Hi Sri Lion

I am residing in Saudi Arabia, Hence I know some thing abt these maids.80% of the maids are corrupt and cunning (including sinhala tamil and muslim maids) the start affairs with drivers ...etc do various nefarious actvities.If they get punished they blatently put the blame on the saudi sponser.Also I must say a lot of Saudis are cruel too.They mistreat their maids.This has nothing to do with Islam.

Hope you can see my point.

If Sri Lankan women have affairs in Saudi, WTF Saudi govt. cares it is their wish...:rolleyes: The real issue why Saudi men abuse mostly only non-Saudi women (they maybe abusing thier own too who the hell would dare to come forward), dude dont tell me stories... I can tell you lot of stories too... about How Sri Lankan maids were forced to Islam by their masters etc.

I understand that you cannot judge a whole community or an entity from a single person's actions.. but when it comes to Islam there is a clear cut difference can't you see?

Can you explain me that particular verse from Q'ran? Are you denying the fact that Q'ran has infact given permission to abuse women?

Tell me are there no other means for a MAN to resolve an issue with a woman than what's stated below?

As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.
 

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i do agree !!!!!!
i' have seen many ....... i'm sad and ashamed to see the mischives of my fellow sri lankan sisters .....

When Sri Lankan Muslims are on death row in Saudi which Muslim in Sri Lanka at least voiced against it? :rolleyes:

Why because Saudi is HOLYLAND? and whatever they do is HOLY SHIT? :rolleyes:

Shame on you!!
 

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sri_lion said:
If Sri Lankan women have affairs in Saudi, WTF Saudi govt. cares it is their wish...:rolleyes:


Adultry is Haram in Islam.I dont know about Buddism.According to saudi law its a punishable act.If you are going to a particular country u r expected to abide by that country's law.



The real issue why Saudi men abuse mostly only non-Saudi women

Can you provide me with some acceptable statistics to support your argument plain word doesnt take me any where.

(they maybe abusing thier own too who the hell would dare to come forward), dude dont tell me stories... I can tell you lot of stories too... about How Sri Lankan maids were forced to Islam by their masters etc.

I understand that you cannot judge a whole community or an entity from a single person's actions.. but when it comes to Islam there is a clear cut difference can't you see?

No I cant see because I cant read ur mind...again ur usual plain word mud slinging please prove with facts.

Can you explain me that particular verse from Q'ran? Are you denying the fact that Q'ran has infact given permission to abuse women?

I deny it catogarically Quran never has said to Abuse women

Tell me are there no other means for a MAN to resolve an issue with a woman than what's stated below?


Here you have conveniently cherry picked the part u wish to quote leaving behind the others deliberatly to twist the truth please quote the whole sentence then u will understand
 

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The Messenger said:
Where in the quran it says this..can you quote for us to see??

From the quran:

33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them:..."


Hadiths:

Vol. 3-#765

Narrated Kuraib: the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles."

Vol. 5-#512 Narrated Anas: ".....The prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives...."

Vol. 5-Chapter 67 Narrated Ibn Ishaq: The Ghazwa (attack upon) Uyaina bin Hisn waged against Banu Al-Anbar, a branch of Banu Tamim. The prophet sent Uyaina to raid them. He raided them and killed some of them and took some others as captives.

Abu Dawud, vol. 2, chapter 597 - "On a Man who Beats His Slave While he is in the Sacred State (wearing Ihram)."

#1814- "(Abu Bakr) began to beat him (Bakr's slave) while the apostle of Allah was smiling and saying: "Look at this man who is in the sacred state, what is he doing?" [The note for this Hadith says "Abu Bakr beat his slave to teach him sense of responsibility."]

Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, a great scholar and Islamic historian says in his book "Zad al-Ma'ad", part 1, p160:

"Muhammad had many male and female slaves. He used to buy and sell them, but he purchased more slaves then he sold. He once sold one black slave for two. His purchases of slaves were more than he sold."

"Muhammad had a number of black slaves. One of them was named 'Mahran'. Muhammad forced him to do more labor than the average man. Whenever Muhammad went on a trip and he, or his people, got tired of carrying their stuff, he made Mahran carry it. Mahran said "Even if I were already carrying the load of 6 or 7 donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load". Tabari and Jawziyya both record this, so Islam accepts this as true."
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Ali, who was Muhammad's son-in-law, whipped Aisha's slave in front of Muhammad to make her talk about the adultery charges against Aisha. Muhammad did not say a word to Ali about beating the female slave. [From the Sirat Rasulallah, p496.]

Want more? http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
 

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sri_lion said:
When Sri Lankan Muslims are on death row in Saudi which Muslim in Sri Lanka at least voiced against it? :rolleyes:

Why because Saudi is HOLYLAND? and whatever they do is HOLY SHIT? :rolleyes:

Shame on you!!


You are talking from Malaysia.You know very little abt wots happening over here.All Sri Lankans are united here.I am a signatory to the petition challanging the court orders of Saudi Arabia regarding the ppl condemned to death row disregarding their religion cast or creed.The Sri lankan Expatriates Association in Riyadh is doing what our so called Sri Lankan Embassy cant do by helping lankans in need.Hence I see ur comments above as absolute nonsense and extremly racial.
 

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nadeeshaF said:
From the quran:

33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them:..."


Hadiths:

Vol. 3-#765

Narrated Kuraib: the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles."

Vol. 5-#512 Narrated Anas: ".....The prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives...."

Vol. 5-Chapter 67 Narrated Ibn Ishaq: The Ghazwa (attack upon) Uyaina bin Hisn waged against Banu Al-Anbar, a branch of Banu Tamim. The prophet sent Uyaina to raid them. He raided them and killed some of them and took some others as captives.

Abu Dawud, vol. 2, chapter 597 - "On a Man who Beats His Slave While he is in the Sacred State (wearing Ihram)."

#1814- "(Abu Bakr) began to beat him (Bakr's slave) while the apostle of Allah was smiling and saying: "Look at this man who is in the sacred state, what is he doing?" [The note for this Hadith says "Abu Bakr beat his slave to teach him sense of responsibility."]

Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, a great scholar and Islamic historian says in his book "Zad al-Ma'ad", part 1, p160:

"Muhammad had many male and female slaves. He used to buy and sell them, but he purchased more slaves then he sold. He once sold one black slave for two. His purchases of slaves were more than he sold."

"Muhammad had a number of black slaves. One of them was named 'Mahran'. Muhammad forced him to do more labor than the average man. Whenever Muhammad went on a trip and he, or his people, got tired of carrying their stuff, he made Mahran carry it. Mahran said "Even if I were already carrying the load of 6 or 7 donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load". Tabari and Jawziyya both record this, so Islam accepts this as true."
</SPAN>
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Ali, who was Muhammad's son-in-law, whipped Aisha's slave in front of Muhammad to make her talk about the adultery charges against Aisha. Muhammad did not say a word to Ali about beating the female slave. [From the Sirat Rasulallah, p496.]

Want more? http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>


Nadeesha

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You are talking from Malaysia.You know very little abt wots happening over here.All Sri Lankans are united here.I am a signatory to the petition challanging the court orders of Saudi Arabia regarding the ppl condemned to death row disregarding their religion cast or creed.The Sri lankan Expatriates Association in Riyadh is doing what our so called Sri Lankan Embassy cant do by helping lankans in need.Hence I see ur comments above as absolute nonsense and extremly racial.

Oh! you are a signatory and everything will be fine! :lol::lol: As if I would come and whether you really are!! :lol:

Anyway its not about what Sri Lankan associations do in Middle East its about stupid Saudi Law, and the Q'ran I'm talking about here!

Sri Lankan must be united where ever they are.. that's agreed.. but even the visa were not granted for Sri Lankan diplomats when that Sri Lankan girl was on death row.. Have you signed a petition against that too?

I highly doubt you and your expat association can go above Q'ran in Middle East :lol: you being a a Muslim would you????
 

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Here you have conveniently cherry picked the part u wish to quote leaving behind the others deliberatly to twist the truth please quote the whole sentence then u will understand

Mr.Messenger!

You are so pathetic that either you dont understand English or you refuse to believe that Q'ran is cruel.. My source is www.quranexplorer.com which has been proved of its authenticity.. so lets get that excuse away first!!

When Q'ran verse is right infront of your eyes saying "scourge women" you are denying it!! :lol: then explain it to us what that really means :rolleyes:

This my friend is called BLIND FAITH and keep believing in Chain Mail!!! :lol::lol:

As for the stats please refer to the 135 page in detail PDF file!
 

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Anyway its not about what Sri Lankan associations do in Middle East its about stupid Saudi Law, and the Q'ran I'm talking about here!

Again you general rubbish ppl get sick of this when you didnt talk to the point.

Sri Lankan must be united where ever they are.. that's agreed.. but even the visa were not granted


wat do you mean by visa not granted.....Minister Hussain Baila came here so many times regarding this case you are fabricating things here.

for Sri Lankan diplomats when that Sri Lankan girl was on death row.. Have you signed a petition against that too?

I agree that ur are one heck of a mud slinger...y dont ur join our lankan politicos u will hav a great future

I highly doubt you and your expat association can go above Q'ran in Middle East :lol: you being a a Muslim would you????[/quote]

We will never go above the quran....there is no doubt abt it....again nonsense:baffled:
 

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sri_lion said:
Mr.Messenger!

You are so pathetic that either you dont understand English or you refuse to believe that Q'ran is cruel.. My source is www.quranexplorer.com which has been proved of its authenticity.. so lets get that excuse away first!!

When Q'ran verse is right infront of your eyes saying "scourge women" you are denying it!! :lol: then explain it to us what that really means :rolleyes:


My Friend who ever reads this will know who doesnt understand english here...I told you in plain english not to put just two words but to put the whole sentence..since it gives a different meaning...I hope you understood my english..:shocked:

This my friend is called BLIND FAITH and keep believing in Chain Mail!!! :lol::lol:


I dont have to answer ur mud bucket do I????


 

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The Messenger said:
My Friend who ever reads this will know who doesnt understand english here...I told you in plain english not to put just two words but to put the whole sentence..since it gives a different meaning...I hope you understood my english..:shocked:

:lol::lol:LMAO!! I've never seen people trying so desperate to hide the obvious!!! You are exactly like your friend Dr. Naik!! :lol::lol:

So lets hear the meaning of the whole sentence in your English then!! :lol:

It walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. it is a DUCK!! :lol::lol:
 
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sri_lion[COLOR=Red said:
]:lol::lol:LMAO!! I've never seen people trying so desperate to hide the obvious!!! You are exactly like your friend Dr. Naik!! :lol::lol:

So lets hear the meaning of whole sentence in you English then!! :lol:

It walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. it is a DUCK!! :lol::lol:


Well I expected to see the sentence from ur source....Instead uve sent me another bucket of mud.....I think uve no point to prove here......
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