Are Muslim women oppressed?

sri_lion

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Well I expected to see the sentence from ur source....Instead uve sent me another bucket of mud.....I think uve no point to prove here......

I've stated my source and what it says in reply number 6 on this thread.. in front page in case you've missed it..:rolleyes: that's where I've quoted it and that exactly how it is there.. anyone can browse through :lol::lol:

Hey dude.. if you can't explain it.. just say it.. don't beat around the bush now finding for excuses!! :rolleyes:
 

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Nadeesha

there are so many Jewsh sponsered sites in the internet which is twisting Islam.the site uve been visiting "answering - Islam" is one of them.Quran has never told anything abt slave girls.Please refer authentic material.

Please find below a mail I got regarding this site

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Liar liar pants on fire! Let's look at the quran from an Islam site shall we?

http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/ -here's my reference website.

33:50 O PROPHET! Behold, We have made lawful to thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowers,Asad(33,57) [57] as well as those whom thy right hand has come to possess from among the captives of war whom God has bestowed upon thee.Asad(33,58) [58] And [We have made lawful to thee] the daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and the daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who have migrated with thee [to Yathrib];Asad(33,59) [59] and any believing woman who offers herself freely to the Prophet and whom the Prophet might be willing to wed:Asad(33,60) [60] [this latter being but] a privilege for thee, and not for other believers - [seeing that] We have already made known what We have enjoined upon them with regard to their wives and those whom their right hands may possess.Asad(33,61) [61] [And] in order that thou be not burdened with [undue] anxiety - for God is indeed much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace –

You see mr. messenger? Right hand posessions! In other words, Slaves! haha, the quran does CONDONE slaves, and sex with slave girls.
 

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sri_lion said:
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

- Al-Quran (Chapter 4, Verse 34)

Dear Sri Lion

Your quotation above should be corrected as below the quran says in "Sura Nisa(Woman) Chapter 4 Verse 34

First Admonish them

If they did not heed

Then Refuse to share their beds

If they still didnt heed

Beat them lightly if its useful

But if they return to obedience seek not against them means (of annoyance)
 

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Liar liar pants on fire! Let's look at the quran from an Islam site shall we?

http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/ -here's my reference website.

33:50 O PROPHET! Behold, We have made lawful to thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowers,Asad(33,57) [57] as well as those whom thy right hand has come to possess from among the captives of war whom God has bestowed upon thee.Asad(33,58) [58] And [We have made lawful to thee] the daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and the daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who have migrated with thee [to Yathrib];Asad(33,59) [59] and any believing woman who offers herself freely to the Prophet and whom the Prophet might be willing to wed:Asad(33,60) [60] [this latter being but] a privilege for thee, and not for other believers - [seeing that] We have already made known what We have enjoined upon them with regard to their wives and those whom their right hands may possess.Asad(33,61) [61] [And] in order that thou be not burdened with [undue] anxiety - for God is indeed much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace –

You see mr. messenger? Right hand posessions! In other words, Slaves! haha, the quran does CONDONE slaves, and sex with slave girls.


Look who is lying baby girl.....quran has only 30 chapters how did you get chapter numbers 33.....you are full of lies please quote correct information.
 

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sri_lion said:
I've stated my source and what it says in reply number 6 on this thread.. in front page in case you've missed it..:rolleyes: that's where I've quoted it and that exactly how it is there.. anyone can browse through :lol::lol:

Hey dude.. if you can't explain it.. just say it.. don't beat around the bush now finding for excuses!! :rolleyes:

Beating around the bush seems very familiar to you.....:D
 

nadeeshaF

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Look who is lying baby girl.....quran has only 30 chapters how did you get chapter numbers 33.....you are full of lies please quote correct information.


I'm no expert on quran, but I was relying on an Islamic website. Follow the below link and see for yourself:

http://www.islamicity.com/Quransearch/action.lasso.asp?-database=Quran&-Table=tblMasterTranslit&-Response=Sreply1.asp&-Error=SReply1.asp&-MaxRecords=25&-token=Asad||<ta>true</ta><tt>true</tt><ts>true</ts><dc>true</dc><tx>true</tx><al>true</al>&-op=qrange&CV=33:50&-sortorder=Ascend&-sortfield=cv&-Search

Me lie? Don't think so. It's this Islamic website that must be lying then. Seems like your religion is full of contradictions, or is it that its followers are confused :confused:
 

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I'm no expert on quran, but I was relying on an Islamic website. Follow the below link and see for yourself:

http://www.islamicity.com/Quransearch/action.lasso.asp?-database=Quran&-Table=tblMasterTranslit&-Response=Sreply1.asp&-Error=SReply1.asp&-MaxRecords=25&-token=Asad||<ta>true</ta><tt>true</tt><ts>true</ts><dc>true</dc><tx>true</tx><al>true</al>&-op=qrange&CV=33:50&-sortorder=Ascend&-sortfield=cv&-Search

Me lie? Don't think so. It's this Islamic website that must be lying then. Seems like your religion is full of contradictions, or is it that its followers are confused :confused:

You are the only one who is confused here Nadeesha......even a small muslim child will say Quran has 30 chapters...As I told you before there are loads of propaganda in the web...if you want some authentic sites i will search for some and pass it over to you....
 

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Dear Sri Lion

Your quotation above should be corrected as below the quran says in "Sura Nisa(Woman) Chapter 4 Verse 34

First Admonish them

If they did not heed

Then Refuse to share their beds

If they still didnt heed

Beat them lightly if its useful

But if they return to obedience seek not against them means (of annoyance)

LMAO!!!! :lol::lol::lol: And how much light is light? is that explained in Q'ran too? Allah should have given a pressure meter free with Q'ran!! :rolleyes:

And who the HELL changed GOD's Word.. Oh! My!! :lol;:shocked:

BTW.. where I have quoted from, here's how they claim their authenticity!!

http://www.quranexplorer.com/AboutUS.aspx

So I guess... this so called...

Abdullah Yousuf Translation Certification
Arabic Script Text Certification
Dr. Mohsin Translation Certificatino
Pickthal Translation Certification

is wrong.... and what you say is right??
 

nadeeshaF

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You are the only one who is confused here Nadeesha......even a small muslim child will say Quran has 30 chapters...As I told you before there are loads of propaganda in the web...if you want some authentic sites i will search for some and pass it over to you....

You are calling -http://www.islamicity.com// an anti-islamic propaganda spreading website? Did you even go through the rest of the website? There is nothing ant-Islamic about it. :eek: :eek: :eek: Let's see some of those "genuine" sites that you are talking of. Can you please give me the link to a wesbite with the "genuine" quran, so I can use it for future reference?
 

sri_lion

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Dont you really have anything sensible to talk.......

Dude dont get angry... I see 114 that's what I'm saying... :lol::lol:

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Looks like the messenger is spreading wrong messages :D Allah will not be pleased. Oh wait, I forgot that Taqiya is acceptable.
 

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You are calling -http://www.islamicity.com// an anti-islamic propaganda spreading website? Did you even go through the rest of the website? There is nothing ant-Islamic about it. :eek: :eek: :eek: Let's see some of those "genuine" sites that you are talking of. Can you please give me the link to a wesbite with the "genuine" quran, so I can use it for future reference?

Nadeesha

As I told you before Zionist and Evangelical propoganda against islam will come under the guise of an Islamic website.So I hope you can gauge my point here...they will pretend 100% to pose as Islamic...hence they will never say anything against Islam but twist the truth about Islam in order to create a wrong understanding to its reader.If they pur the quran as you say..which has only 30 chapters......how did they get....33 and utter rubbish as having sex with slave girls.......hope you understood.
 

nadeeshaF

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Nadeesha

As I told you before Zionist and Evangelical propoganda against islam will come under the guise of an Islamic website.So I hope you can gauge my point here...they will pretend 100% to pose as Islamic...hence they will never say anything against Islam but twist the truth about Islam in order to create a wrong understanding to its reader.If they pur the quran as you say..which has only 30 chapters......how did they get....33 and utter rubbish as having sex with slave girls.......hope you understood.

I'm waiting for the authentic websites you promised.
 

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Dude dont get angry... I see 114 that's what I'm saying... :lol::lol:

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Sri Lion

These Suras ur talking about...ur correct there are 30 Jusuhus 114 Suras and 6000+ ayaths in quran....Jusuhus are reffered chapters
 

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nadeeshaF said:
But that site doesn't seem to have the quran. Can you provide one that has a quran please?

Ok I have requested to some authentic sites ..I am awaiting an email..I will give you them no sooner I receive it....