Bible that prove Jesus was irrational and self-contradicting

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As a Muslim, I believe that Jesus peace be upon him didn't contradict himself in anything, nor was he irrational. The Bible is full of man-made alterations and corruptions, and it can not be fully trusted.

In the NT, we read about Jesus commanding his followers to buy swords: "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (Luke 22:36)"


So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"


Jesus hitting others with a whip, not that it makes him bad, but certainly takes his "perfection" away: "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, 'Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!.' (John 2:15)"

Jesus not respecting the life of the innocent animals, which again takes away his "perfection" from him: "He [Jesus] said to them, 'Go!' so they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. (Matthew 8:32)"


Old Testament

Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children? Why kill all of the non-virgin women? Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars. Women rarely fought in battle fields. So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?
 

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As a Muslim, I believe that Jesus peace be upon him didn't contradict himself in anything, nor was he irrational. The Bible is full of man-made alterations and corruptions, and it can not be fully trusted.



I don't wanna argue anything in here but I just wanna say that I couldn't stop laughing after seeing this part... :lol::lol:
 

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As a Muslim, I believe that Jesus peace be upon him didn't contradict himself in anything, nor was he irrational. The Bible is full of man-made alterations and corruptions, and it can not be fully trusted.



In the NT, we read about Jesus commanding his followers to buy swords: "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (Luke 22:36)"

Christ was clearly talking about literal weapons. But He was not encouraging His disciples to defend themselves through violence, which would have contradicted His previous instruction, in Matthew 5:38-39, against harming others.

In Luke 9:56, He had stated, “For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.” In Matthew 5:44, He had instructed, “…Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

In Luke 22:37, Christ showed the meaning of His statement: “For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in Me, And He was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning Me have an end [they will be fulfilled].”

Another faulse accusation by I love Sri lanak , truely i love sri lanka :lol:

Christ was clearly talking about literal weapons. But He was not encouraging His disciples to defend themselves through violence, which would have contradicted His previous instruction, in Matthew 5:38-39, against harming others.

In Luke 9:56, He had stated, “For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.” In Matthew 5:44, He had instructed, “…Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

In Luke 22:37, Christ showed the meaning of His statement: “For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in Me, And He was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning


Why did Christ instruct His disciples to get swords? To assure the fulfillment of the prophecy in Isaiah 53:12 (which He had inspired and now quoted). He was to be considered a lawbreaker (“transgressor”). He was not endorsing the use of weapons for the purpose of harming other people (whether in self-defense or otherwise). In verse 51 of Luke 22, we see that when Peter drew a sword and strike the High Priest’s servant, Christ chastised him for his actions. He then healed the man by re-attaching his ear, which Peter had cut off.

And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. - Jesus Christ


So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"

and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. What is wrong with this statement yeah my friend if you did something wrong you should get what you deserved, here God Universal Law is there to punish the sinners unless you don't repent or become good I must say something about this last book of the Bible it contains a vision of John about end times you should have great wisdom to understand his vision it is indeed all abt end times events including the story of false phophet Revelation called THE BEAST.

Here is the another verse from Revelation 16:13

"And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet."




Jesus hitting others with a whip, not that it makes him bad, but certainly takes his "perfection" away: "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, 'Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!.' (John 2:15)"

Yeah this is becuase they sale those thing is his Tample this is the only place you see jesus become angry , 'Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!.' today some of the sects do this for them this has become a business so for them this is a good leason God won't resist


Jesus not respecting the life of the innocent animals, which again takes away his "perfection" from him: "He [Jesus] said to them, 'Go!' so they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. (Matthew 8:32)"


Old Testament

Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children? Why kill all of the non-virgin women? Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars. Women rarely fought in battle fields. So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This from old testament those things are not from jesus Christ

I know I know nothing about Old Testament becuase it is diffcult me to unserstand bt I will answer to it after consulting a Bible College student bt I will stand against all the allegation from the New Testament
 

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I don't wanna argue anything in here but I just wanna say that I couldn't stop laughing after seeing this part... :lol::lol:


:confused:Totally agreed bro


:confused:Something wrong some where. What ever the things in this world have been created by some one. Bible also the same.. The Thipitaka and quran also wrote by some one... what the hell that one is talking ?:confused:
 
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In the NT, we read about Jesus commanding his followers to buy swords: "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword,sell your cloak and buy one. (Luke 22:36)"


Christ was clearly talking about literal weapons. But He was not encouraging His disciples to defend themselves through violence, which would have contradicted His previous instruction, in Matthew 5:38-39, against harming others.

How do u know it is actually talking about literal weapons, is this your assumption? This clearly says, SWORDS..of course bible is contradicting here. If I want to agree with your logic, you also have to agree with Islam which promotes peace only when i give a verse from a Quran i.e whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind(5:32)..as quran also cant contradict itself, like your bible.


In Luke 9:56, He had stated, “For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.” In Matthew 5:44, He had instructed, “…Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

In Luke 22:37, Christ showed the meaning of His statement: “For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in Me, And He was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning Me have an end [they will be fulfilled].”

Can I also show good verses from Quran, you over estimate your bible & portray as though only bible spread peace.

Allah Almighty commanded the Muslims to be kind and just with non-Muslims: "Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"


"Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant. (The Noble Quran, 7:199)"

And when they hear vanity they withdraw from it and say: Unto us our works and unto you your works. Peace be unto you! We desire not the ignorant.(28:55)

When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. Allah takes careful account of all things (4.86)


So what? this much versus enough for you to support my religion of peace as per your logic..ha!!ha!


Another faulse accusation by I love Sri lanak , truely i love sri lanka

What false accusation. Are u ok neh……

Jesus hitting others with a whip, not that it makes him bad, but certainly takes his "perfection" away: "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, 'Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!.' (John 2:15)"

Yeah this is becuase they sale those thing is his Tample this is the only place you see jesus become angry , 'Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!.' today some of the sects do this for them this has become a business so for them this is a good leason God won't resist

So ultimately u accept jesus become angry. That is nice.

This from old testament those things are not from jesus Christ

I know I know nothing about Old Testament becuase it is diffcult me to unserstand bt I will answer to it after consulting a Bible College student bt I will stand against all the allegation from the New Testament


You didn’t reply me why you don’t u follow OT, though Jesus asked you to follow OT, I have already quoted you the Proof from your bible. So its your responsibility to answer me than using the evading tactics. Even if u don’t accept still I don’t have any problem in bringing from NT.
 

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I Love Sri Lanka - Hey..look look.. bible is corrupted..the jesus in bible is not the real jesus....so bible is corrupted...

Rational thinker - Why you think that the real Jesus is not reflected in the Bible...

I Love Sri Lanka - Because the bible is corrupted...

Rational thinker - How do we know that the bible is corrupted...

I Love Sri Lanka - Its quite obvious..Islam tells us that the bible is corrupted...corruption (Tahreef) is a central concept is Islam...

Rational Thinker - So, why should we believe that Islam is true..

I Love Sri Lanka - Don't ask stupid questions...Islam is the only true religion...It was said in the Qu'ran itself.

Rational Thinker - What about the Quran...why we should belive that the qu'ran is true...

I Love Sri Lanka - Oh!! don't you understand...Our prophet(pbuh) asserted that the quran is true...

Rational Thinker - So, how we know that the Muhammad is the real final prophet...

I Love Sri Lanka - Again, what a stupid question....It was clearly stated in the quran..

Rational Thinker - Ok...you are right...I give up..

I Love Sri Lanka - thanks
 
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    I Love Sri Lanka - Hey..look look.. bible is corrupted..the jesus in bible is not the real jesus....so bible is corrupted...

    Rational thinker - Why you think that the real Jesus is not reflected in the Bible...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Because the bible is corrupted...

    Rational thinker - How do we know that the bible is corrupted...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Its quite obvious..Islam tells us that the bible is corrupted...corruption (Tahreef) is a central concept is Islam...

    Rational Thinker - So, why should we believe that Islam is true..

    I Love Sri Lanka - Don't ask stupid questions...Islam is the only true religion...It was said in the Qu'ran itself.

    Rational Thinker - What about the Quran...why we should belive that the qu'ran is true...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Oh!! don't you understand...Our prophet(pbuh) asserted that the quran ist true...

    Rational Thinker - So, how we know that the Muhammad is the real final prophet...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Again, what a stupid question....It was clearly stated in the quran..

    Rational Thinker - Ok...you are right...I give up..

    I Love Sri Lanka - thanks
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    I Love Sri Lanka - Hey..look look.. bible is corrupted..the jesus in bible is not the real jesus....so bible is corrupted...

    Rational thinker - Why you think that the real Jesus is not reflected in the Bible...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Because the bible is corrupted...

    Rational thinker - How do we know that the bible is corrupted...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Its quite obvious..Islam tells us that the bible is corrupted...corruption (Tahreef) is a central concept is Islam...

    Rational Thinker - So, why should we believe that Islam is true..

    I Love Sri Lanka - Don't ask stupid questions...Islam is the only true religion...It was said in the Qu'ran itself.

    Rational Thinker - What about the Quran...why we should belive that the qu'ran is true...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Oh!! don't you understand...Our prophet(pbuh) asserted that the quran is true...

    Rational Thinker - So, how we know that the Muhammad is the real final prophet...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Again, what a stupid question....It was clearly stated in the quran..

    Rational Thinker - Ok...you are right...I give up..

    I Love Sri Lanka - thanks
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    I Love Sri Lanka - Hey..look look.. bible is corrupted..the jesus in bible is not the real jesus....so bible is corrupted...

    Rational thinker - Why you think that the real Jesus is not reflected in the Bible...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Because the bible is corrupted...

    Rational thinker - How do we know that the bible is corrupted...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Its quite obvious..Islam tells us that the bible is corrupted...corruption (Tahreef) is a central concept is Islam...

    Rational Thinker - So, why should we believe that Islam is true..

    I Love Sri Lanka - Don't ask stupid questions...Islam is the only true religion...It was said in the Qu'ran itself.

    Rational Thinker - What about the Quran...why we should belive that the qu'ran is true...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Oh!! don't you understand...Our prophet(pbuh) asserted that the quran is true...

    Rational Thinker - So, how we know that the Muhammad is the real final prophet...

    I Love Sri Lanka - Again, what a stupid question....It was clearly stated in the quran..

    Rational Thinker - Ok...you are right...I give up..

    I Love Sri Lanka - thanks

    Mchan we better stop this because we should not throw your pearls to pigs
     
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    adoo mehh Tama adhan agamak taman ma adaha gathang ewarai nee.. Respect Others Religion

    Christians should learn to respect other religions in order to get respect from others..if they keep on alleging others with false allegation, then their bible also being exposed.
     

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    Christians should learn to respect other religions in order to get respect from others..if they keep on alleging others with false allegation, then their bible also being exposed.


    Tears came to my eyes when you insulted our Lord Jesus Christ. Everytime I watch "The Passion of Christ" I cry I ask myself why did you do it for me ? why do you love me that much? You showed us a way you came to this world that are duty is to served rather than to be served. Lord Jesus Christ we love you so much if you are here with me I am damn sure you would say "Put up again your sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

    He Knew it People say that our Bible is currupted one bt do not forget that we can say the holy bible is Unique among all books ever written, the Bible accurately foretells specific events-in detail-many years, sometimes centuries, before they occur. Approximately 2500 prophecies appear in the pages of the Bible, about 2000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors. (The remaining 500 or so reach into the future and may be seen unfolding as days go by.) Since the probability for any one of these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance averages less than one in ten (figured very conservatively) and since the prophecies are for the most part independent of one another, the odds for all these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance without error is less than one in 102000 (that is 1 with 2000 zeros written after it)!



    This is why Jesus said:

    Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. - John 15:20

    Jesus further explained ...

    John 16-1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. 2They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. 4But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

    It is by the name of Jesus Christ ... Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved. - Acts 4:10,12 (NIV)

    If you have time please do a small research I am sure you will be amazed

    We have no grudge on Muslims we have no problem with Prophet Mohomed we have no problem with Islam or Allah (Muslim's God Al Mighty) as long as bringing peace to the people

    I would like to appologies all my muslims brother if my words hurt you I am sorry please do accept it I will surely read your quran again with deep understanding

    May God Show us the way ....

    God bless you all