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<blockquote data-quote="hafizsaad" data-source="post: 7998410" data-attributes="member: 153303"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">what the quranic verses you have posted and their explanations are scientifically accurate. Mountains <strong>do</strong> hold the tectonic plates together and also <strong>do</strong> function as buffer against earthquakes! There's plenty of research confirming this, don't let these pseudo-scientists tell you otherwise. The problem is, although mountains do all this, they are in the first place created by the movement of the tectonic plates and earthquakes. Therefor people naturally assume that since they are created by it, they cannot afterwards negate the effect. But that assumption is wrong. While it is true that Allah subhana wa ta'ala creates mountains trough tectonic movement and earthquakes; once that those mountains are big enough they do counter the effect. In that sense the analogy with the apple is also very deceiving. The two are hardly comparable. The presence of mountains, especially the older and bigger ones has a huge effect in buffering earthquakes. But don't just take my word for it, there's some links in the copy paste from my website:<p style="margin-left: 20px"><u>The descriptions of the root of mountains and their function.</u></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">The Qur'an says:</p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><strong>Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs? (78:6-7)</strong></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">The part saying "<em>mountains as pegs</em>" is not vague. It gives a clear view of their shape, and this has been confirmed by science, and there was no way to discover these things without our current scientific advancement. If we look at an early tefsir made prior to scientific discoveries it's also clear that this is not a make-fit-translation:</p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><a href="http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=78&tid=56741%20" target="_blank">Tafsir ibn kathir</a></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">And here's a scientific article that confirms the shape of mountains:</p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><a href="http://www.geology.wisc.edu/courses/g112/mtn_roots.html" target="_blank">Beneath the mountains</a></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">In an earlier verse we see:</p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><strong>And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them, and We placed therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided. (21:31)</strong></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">Here the Qur'an goes further, not only telling us the shape of mountains, but also their function. Again the early tefisr:</p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><a href="http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=21&tid=32959" target="_blank">Tefsir Ibn Kathir</a></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green">Article explaining how research confirms the function of mountains as insulators for earthquakes:</p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><a href="http://bssa.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/2066" target="_blank"> Effects of Large-Scale Surface Topography on Ground Motions</a></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"></p><p>Copy paste from that last link:<p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>We investigate the effects of large-scale surface topography on ground motions generated by nearby faulting. We show a specific example studying the effect of the San Gabriel Mountains, which are bounded by the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault on the north and by the Los Angeles Basin on the south. By simulating a </em><em>Mw 7.5 earthquake on the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault, we show that the San Gabriel Mountains act as a natural seismic insulator for metropolitan Los Angeles. The topography of the mountains scatters the surface waves generated by the rupture on the San Andreas fault, leading to less-efficient excitation of basin-edge generated waves and natural resonances within the Los Angeles Basin. </em><strong></strong></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Red">The effect of the mountains reduces the peak amplitude of ground velocity for some regions in the basin by as much as 50% </span></span></strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Red"><strong>in the frequency band up to 0.5 Hz. </strong></span></span></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Red"><strong></strong></span></span><em>These results suggest that, depending on the relative location of faulting and the nearby large-scale topography, the topography can shield some areas from ground shaking.</em></p></span></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"></p><p>i aspect rational reply from you side.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Green"></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hafizsaad, post: 7998410, member: 153303"] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][COLOR="Green"] what the quranic verses you have posted and their explanations are scientifically accurate. Mountains [B]do[/B] hold the tectonic plates together and also [B]do[/B] function as buffer against earthquakes! There's plenty of research confirming this, don't let these pseudo-scientists tell you otherwise. The problem is, although mountains do all this, they are in the first place created by the movement of the tectonic plates and earthquakes. Therefor people naturally assume that since they are created by it, they cannot afterwards negate the effect. But that assumption is wrong. While it is true that Allah subhana wa ta'ala creates mountains trough tectonic movement and earthquakes; once that those mountains are big enough they do counter the effect. In that sense the analogy with the apple is also very deceiving. The two are hardly comparable. The presence of mountains, especially the older and bigger ones has a huge effect in buffering earthquakes. But don't just take my word for it, there's some links in the copy paste from my website:[INDENT][U]The descriptions of the root of mountains and their function.[/U] The Qur'an says: [B]Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs? (78:6-7)[/B] The part saying "[I]mountains as pegs[/I]" is not vague. It gives a clear view of their shape, and this has been confirmed by science, and there was no way to discover these things without our current scientific advancement. If we look at an early tefsir made prior to scientific discoveries it's also clear that this is not a make-fit-translation: [URL="http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=78&tid=56741%20"]Tafsir ibn kathir[/URL] And here's a scientific article that confirms the shape of mountains: [URL="http://www.geology.wisc.edu/courses/g112/mtn_roots.html"]Beneath the mountains[/URL] In an earlier verse we see: [B]And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them, and We placed therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided. (21:31)[/B] Here the Qur'an goes further, not only telling us the shape of mountains, but also their function. Again the early tefisr: [URL="http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=21&tid=32959"]Tefsir Ibn Kathir[/URL] Article explaining how research confirms the function of mountains as insulators for earthquakes: [URL="http://bssa.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/2066"] Effects of Large-Scale Surface Topography on Ground Motions[/URL] [/INDENT]Copy paste from that last link:[INDENT][I]We investigate the effects of large-scale surface topography on ground motions generated by nearby faulting. We show a specific example studying the effect of the San Gabriel Mountains, which are bounded by the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault on the north and by the Los Angeles Basin on the south. By simulating a [/I][I]Mw 7.5 earthquake on the Mojave segment of the San Andreas fault, we show that the San Gabriel Mountains act as a natural seismic insulator for metropolitan Los Angeles. The topography of the mountains scatters the surface waves generated by the rupture on the San Andreas fault, leading to less-efficient excitation of basin-edge generated waves and natural resonances within the Los Angeles Basin. [/I][B] [SIZE=3][COLOR=Red]The effect of the mountains reduces the peak amplitude of ground velocity for some regions in the basin by as much as 50% [/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3][COLOR=Red][B]in the frequency band up to 0.5 Hz. [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][I]These results suggest that, depending on the relative location of faulting and the nearby large-scale topography, the topography can shield some areas from ground shaking.[/I] [/INDENT] i aspect rational reply from you side. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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