Questions Buddhism quection

[Emios]

Can't answer that bro. Its not an 'empty' question but something that we should avoid trying to find answers to. Because it takes us nowhere. So instead of trying to find 'where raaga was born', I would put my focus on to see if I do have 'Raaga'. Do I have 'Dwesha' or 'Moha'. If I have, then whats good about it? Buddhism talks about those are bad but why? whats wrong with it? Is it that bad to have those? Where the problem is? Can I turn my back on everything I've heard and keep doing what I like? Does that serve me as I expect? If it is bad how to get rid of? etc etc. I ask myself. And I try to find answers to those.

Hmm from what you explained so far what i get is there is a significant difference in buddhism than the view of hindu.In hindunism they actualy have an explanation as to how the first raaga appeared in consiousness.but buddhist view is completely different.

 

[mr90486]

Hmm from what you explained so far what i get is there is a significant difference in buddhism than the view of hindu.In hindunism they actualy have an explanation as to how the first raaga appeared in consiousness.but buddhist view is completely different.

Whats that? Can you explain in brief?

 

[Emios]

ඒ දේ පුටුවක් කියල අපි තෝරාගත්ත නිසා ඒක අපි පුටුවක් කියල දකිනවා. ඇත්තටම ඒක වෙන කෙනෙක්ට ලී ගොඩක් විදියට දකින්නත් පුළුවන්. රූපයකට නමක් දීල අපි. එතකොට ඇස් පේන්නේ නැති කෙනෙක්ට? එයාලට නොපෙනුනත් ඒ දේ දැනෙන විදියෙන් පුටුවක් කියලා ඉගෙන ගන්නවා. එතන ඉඳන් සදහටම ඒක එයාට පුටුවක්

Eka thamai man ahuwe.etakota man ma neda mata one dewal mawagena mawama sathutu karanne?example geniyek kiyala mawagatteth man genith ekka sex kareth man.anthimata wela tiyenne man ma mawagena man ma athe gahagena wage scene ekak

 

[mr90486]

Eka thamai man ahuwe.etakota man ma neda mata one dewal mawagena mawama sathutu karanne?example geniyek kiyala mawagatteth man genith ekka sex kareth man.anthimata wela tiyenne man ma mawagena man ma athe gahagena wage scene ekak

Correct ! Thats an illusion

 

[DjAtrocity]

Reality eka mokadda eke?energy ekakda?

Space time decoherence ekak. Ask a particle physist for more clarification.

 

[thaweesha]

Eka thamai man ahuwe.etakota man ma neda mata one dewal mawagena mawama sathutu karanne?example geniyek kiyala mawagatteth man genith ekka sex kareth man.anthimata wela tiyenne man ma mawagena man ma athe gahagena wage scene ekak

නෑ ඔව්. අපිට පුටුවක් ලී ගොඩක් විදියට දකින්න හැකියාව තිබුණට. ඒ දේට හැඟීම් එක්ක තියන බැඳීම් ප්‍රමාණය වැඩි වෙන්න අපිට ඒක පුටුවක් විදියටමයි පේන්නේ. පුටුව පොළවේ ගහලා කුඩු කරොත් ඒක නිකන්ම ලී ගොඩක්. ගෑනිව කපලා කපලා මැරුවොත් මස් ගොඩක්. එතකොට රූපයට හැඟීම් එකතු උනාම මුලාව.

 

[Pessimist]

The dream?if nothing is seprate the illusion or dream is one entity.If 5 skandas doesn't have it's own existance then how it was born.out of nothing?so it's all a dream empty.

that's the gist of it. if u are interested in this view google nagarjuna and his sunyathavada
as for the 5 skandhas u can interpret them as instrumental descriptions. they are there to help explain things but has nothing do with ultimate reality. the only reality is the one u make inside ur mind.

 

[deepbug]

පුටුවක්ම තමා එතන තියෙන්නෙත්. නැති දෙයක් මවා ගත්තොත් මිසක් පුටුවක් දිහා බලද්දි අමුතුවෙන් දෙයක් මැවෙන්නෙ හිතේ නෑ. තියෙන දේ දකිනවා. දකින දේ අල්ල ගන්න විදිය අනුවයි අපි ක්‍රියාත්මක වෙන්නෙ.

 

[visalbro]

spa yana ubata mona buddhism da?

 

[Emios]

Whats that? Can you explain in brief?

They believe in a state of pure consiousness.from which everything came to be.The dream(current reality we live in) is a manifestation of that pure consiousness.Raaga.dwesha,moha are inbuilt qualities of that consiousness.they take life as a mirror of that consiousness.The pure consiousness sees itself in that mirror and think they are separate.That is how the first thought of raaga came to be.That is hw the illusion of "i" came to be

 

[mr90486]

They believe in a state of pure consiousness.from which everything came to be.The dream(current reality we live in) is a manifestation of that pure consiousness.Raaga.dwesha,moha are inbuilt qualities of that consiousness.they take life as a mirror of that consiousness.The pure consiousness sees itself in that mirror and think they are separate.That is how the first though of raaga came to be.

Buddhism explains, something called 'Prabashwara Citta' aka 'Pure Mind'. Which is the default state of mind of every living being. Prabashwara Citta is a pure state free from Klesha dharma. Then there is Raaga, Dwesha and Moha. Pure mind lets you experience your outside world in its truer form. No bells and whistles. Think of it as raw data. Or naked form. When you see g girl you identify that it is a girl, what she wears, whats her name, how tall she is, the color etc etc. That identification comes from that Prabashwara Citta. If seeing that girl gave you some pleasant feeling, then there comes 'Raaga' in to the mix. Your mind creates an attachment with the image of that girl and at that very moment your 'pure mind' or 'Prabashwara Citta' gets polluted. Then there will be a difference between seeing a girl and seeing the girl that you've got attached with. How would you compare this with your explanation of Hindu's belief?

 

[Emios]

that's the gist of it. if u are interested in this view google nagarjuna and his sunyathavada
as for the 5 skandhas u can interpret them as instrumental descriptions. they are there to help explain things but has nothing do with ultimate reality. the only reality is the one u make inside ur mind.

Ok the fake reality is made inside mind.The mind is an illusion to.Then what is the ultimate reality?emptyness?

 

[Pessimist]

Ok the fake reality is made inside mind.The mind is an illusion to.Then what is the ultimate reality?emptyness?

exactly or more precisely sunyatha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna#Sunyata
Nāgārjuna's major thematic focus is the concept of śūnyatā (translated into English as "emptiness") which brings together other key Buddhist doctrines, particularly anātman "not-self" and pratītyasamutpāda "dependent origination", to refute the metaphysics of some of his contemporaries

Understanding the nature of the emptiness of phenomena is simply a means to an end, which is nirvana. Thus Nāgārjuna's philosophical project is ultimately a soteriological one meant to correct our everyday cognitive processes which mistakenly posits svabhāva on the flow of experience.

 

[Emios]

Buddhism explains, something called 'Prabashwara Citta' aka 'Pure Mind'. Which is the default state of mind of every living being. Prabashwara Citta is a pure state free from Klesha dharma. Then there is Raaga, Dwesha and Moha. Pure mind lets you experience your outside world in its truer form. No bells and whistles. Think of it as raw data. Or naked form. When you see g girl you identify that it is a girl, what she wears, whats her name, how tall she is, the color etc etc. That identification comes from that Prabashwara Citta. If seeing that girl gave you some pleasant feeling, then there comes 'Raaga' in to the mix. Your mind creates an attachment with the image of that girl and at that very moment your 'pure mind' or 'Prabashwara Citta' gets polluted. Then there will be a difference between seeing a girl and seeing the girl that you've got attached with. How would you compare this with your explanation of Hindu's belief?

Does prabashwara chitta still has an "i"in it?If so that is still an illuion isn't it?what is the default mind that sees others?

 

[mr90486]

Does prabashwara chitta still has an "i"in it?If so that is still an illuion isn't it?what is the default mind that sees others?

I can't give Yes or No type an answer to this buddy. I am sort of a delusional on this so looks like its out of my range and I don't like to make assumptions. Got to experience it someday

 

[DjAtrocity]

You may ask why everything is symmetrical( humans, animals, furniture, etc.). Rather why asymmetrical objects don't really exists though?

 

[kinkon]

ආපෝ තේජෝ වායෝ පඨවි එකතු වෙලා හැදිච්ච නාමිකව අපි කියන පු‍ටුව විතරයි එතන තියෙන්නෙ..ඕක පු‍ටුව වෙන්ඩ කලින් ලී කියනව නාමිකව..ඕන දෙයක් පොඩිම කොටස දක්වා වෙන් කරගෙන ගියාම අන්තිමට හැදිල තියෙන්නෙ ඔය මුලින් කියපු 4න් තමා..ඕවයෙන් හැදිල තියෙන දේවල් ඇත්තටම තියෙනව කියල හිතල තන්හාව,ක්‍රෝධය etc. ඇතිවෙන එකට තමා අවිද්‍යව කියන්නෙ.

 

[Garrus]

අපි පාට කියල කියන්නේ අපි හිතින් මවා ගත්ත දෙයක් වගේ තමා.. මට පේන රතු නෙවෙයි උඹට පෙන්නේ...