Do not commit suiside. Have mercy on your soul! or you will go to hell

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    Committing Suicide Is Strictly Forbidden in Islam
    Adil Salahi
    Arab News, 6/22/04
    Q. It is said that suicide is forbidden in Islam and that the person who commits suicide is destined to go to hell. Suppose a person is suffering from a severe case of depression, or some other mental disease. Should such a person commit suicide, will he also go to hell?
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    A. One thing which people often do is to say that such and such a person will definitely go to heaven or to hell. This is something over which none other than God has any control. So to suggest that such a person goes here or there in the hereafter is an affront to God, because it precipitates His judgment.
    There are certain verses of the Qur’an and statements by the Prophet (peace be upon him) which tell us that those who perpetrate certain sins will be punished. But then it is up to God to determine what punishment fits every single case, because God judges us individually, on the basis of His perfect knowledge of our intentions and conditions.
    It is true that suicide is strictly forbidden, because it is an affront to God. It is like a person saying to God: “You have given me life and I am taking it away.” This is what is meant by the sacred Hadith in which God is quoted as saying of the one who commits suicide: “My servant has precipitated My will with regard to himself! Therefore, I am forbidding him entry into heaven.” But this Hadith applies to a person in full control of his faculties, suffering no overpowering adversity and having a reasonable life. If such a person commits suicide, then may be God will not allow him in heaven.
    A person who commits suicide as a result of a mental disorder like depression or some other severe form of anxiety is not in full control of his senses. We cannot say how God will judge such a person, but we trust to God’s justice, because He does not deal unfairly with anyone. We pray for the person concerned, and request God to forgive him. When a man committed suicide during the Prophet’s lifetime, the Prophet was distressed. He did not perform the janazah prayer for the deceased, but he ordered his companions to do it. When they did, they prayed for the man and requested God’s forgiveness for him. This shows that the Prophet did not exclude the possibility of his being forgiven by God.



    – Muhammad b. `Ali b. al-Husayn by his isnad from al-Hasan b. Mahbub from Abu Wallad al-Hannat. He said: I heard Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام saying: Whoso kills himself on purpose, then he will be in the fire of Jahannam forever.



    [ 35060 ] 2 ـ قال : وقال الصادق ( عليه السلام ) : من قتل نفسه متعمدا فهو في نار جهنم خالدا فيها ، قال الله عزّ وجلّ : ( ولا تقتلوا أنفسكم إن الله كان بكم رحيما * ومن يفعل ذلك عدوانا وظلما فسوف نصليه نارا وكان ذلك على الله يسيرا ) .




    2 – He said: And as-Sadiq عليه السلام said: Whoso kills himself on purpose, he will be in the fire of Jahannam forever. Allah, `azza wa jalla, said “And do not kill yourselves; verily, Allah is merciful unto you. But whoso does that maliciously and unjustly, we will broil him with fire; for that is easy with Allah.”




    [ 35061 ] 3 ـ محمد بن يعقوب ، عن محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن الحسين ، عن صفوان ، عن معاوية بن عمار ، عن ناجية ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) ـ في حديث ـ قال : إن المؤمن يبتلى بكل بلية ويموت بكل ميتة إلا أنه لا يقتل نفسه .




    3 – Muhammad b. Ya`qub from Muhammad b. Yahya from Muhammad b. al-Husayn from Safwan from Mu`awiya b. `Ammar from Najiya from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام in a hadith (wherein) he said: Verily the believers are afflicted by every affliction and die by every death except that they do not kill themselves.



     
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    PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE WHO ENCOUNTERED GOD


    Let's further compare Muhammad's experience with Biblical stories of men who had experiences with God.

    Noah - Gen. 6.

    God speaks to Noah and tells him that He is going to destroy the earth. Noah does not panic, become depressed, or driven by fear. He knows that this God speaking to him, and there is no need for rash action. Noah knows this is God, and Noah does not become irrational. Noah knows that this God is not going to harm him.


    Abraham - Gen. 12 - 18.

    God speaks to Abraham. Abraham does not panic, Abraham is not bewildered, Abraham does not doubt or become depressed, Abraham believes and obeys. God visited Abraham, yet neither he nor Sarah attempts any rash actions.



    Moses - Ex. 3 - 34

    God appeared to Moses in the burning bush. Moses was afraid to look at God but Moses does not act paranoid. He knew that this God was not a God of terror. Moses did not run back to his family frightened out of his mind. Moses did not become depressed over the event, thinking he was possessed or bewitched. Instead, because Moses personally experienced this God and knew he could trust this God, Moses knew and obeyed.


    Isaiah - Isaiah 6

    Isaiah had a powerful vision and experience of God. Yet he did not lose his mind, he was not driven by dread of God. He feared God because of the sin in his heart, and the sinfulness of the people he dwelt among, but he did not panic. During this experience he realized God had forgiven him and accepted him. Because he experienced the real God, Isaiah did not attempt suicide or any other rash action. His mind was sound, he did not need to have a "spirit" continue to sooth him.


    Mary - Luke 1.

    The real Gabriel also visited Mary. She too was perplexed and afraid. But during her experience with Gabriel, she gained confidence and strength. She knew God loved her. She did not become irrational or depressed, and she did not run around frightened out of her mind. She did not attempt suicide. Instead, because she experienced the living God, she knew she was loved and accepted. She knew this God was real, and she had nothing to fear.



    Jesus - Mark 1.

    When Jesus Christ began His ministry, He was baptized in water. The Holy Spirit descended upon Him. God spoke from heaven, and the people there heard God speak, "This is my beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased." There were no panic attacks, depression, or doubt.


    And, after Jesus was challenged by Satan in the desert He was ministered to by the angels. But Muhammad was ministered to by none. You get the feeling that instead of ministering, those spirits haunted him. Satan told Jesus "If you are the Son of God, throw Yourself down", the spirit told Muhammad to not throw himself down - he was the apostle of Allah.


    As I read the stories about people in the Bible who encountered God I do not find anything that resembles Muhammad's experience. These people actually met God, while Muhammad's entire prophethood rests only upon what a spirit interface told him. These people were filled with a reverent fear, but never became depressed as a result of their experience. These people fellowshipped with God. Some walked with Him, to other's He revealed Himself. None of them contemplated suicide. But many times over a course of up to three years, Muhammad tried to commit suicide, and each time this "spirit" stopped him. What plans did this spirit have in store for him?

    From very Interesting web article not my own words or ideas
     

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    Examine these events. Both men had an unexpected encounter. Paul was confronted by a Being that identified Himself as the Lord Jesus Christ; Muhammad was visited by a spiritual force that claimed to be Gabriel.


    Paul was face to face with the God of the people he was persecuting. He saw a light, heard a voice, and suddenly knew whom he was really persecuting. We read that Paul then understood that he experienced a confrontation from God. We see that he was not terrorized, he did not panic with fear, and he attempted no rash, desperate actions. And following the event, God directed his people to minister to Paul; Paul was comforted, encouraged, and strengthened.

    If anyone had a reason and justification to commit a rash action it was Paul. He was forced to realize that he was persecuting and killing God's people. What type of punishment would be meted out to him? How could he be forgiven for the crimes against God he had committed? Would there be any peace or comfort to be found anyplace for the rest of his life?

    Instead of acting crazed, Paul somehow began to know the God he was confronted by. Paul knew that this God was not going to exact revenge for the evil he had committed. Paul experienced God's forgiveness and having been forgiven much now loved much. Because of his intimate, spiritual experience, because he had tasted and seen that the Lord is good, he now submitted to God, and was determined to serve Him as ardently as he had persecuted Him.


    Muhammad reacted quite differently. It is undeniable that something distressing occurred. He returns back to his wife bewildered, terrorized, "What's wrong with me?", he asks his wife. Just as children hide under the covers when they are afraid of monsters in the dark, so Muhammad had his wife wrap him in a blanket; he did not want to see the cause of terror again.

    Not satisfied with her comfort, he goes to the mountain instinctively knowing that something evil had happened to him. The only way he knows how to deal with it is the final solution: commit suicide. But on top of the mountain this spirit intervenes, consoles him, strokes his ego, "O Muhammad, you are God's apostle". Muhammad returns.

    But it's not over. The terror, depression, and doubt Muhammad experienced were too real, too persistent to shake. Soothing words are eroded by the inward torments, doubts, and fears, "Woe is me poet or possessed...I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest."

    Unlike Paul's experience, Muhammad is not comforted by anyone but this "spirit". Muhammad is left in the lurch. As time goes on, this spirit visits Muhammad less often, the torments and depression return, and gain strength. He again goes to kill himself. And, just in time, the spirit intervenes, telling him, stroking his ego again and again, he is an apostle of god. The bouts of depression continue over the next years, the suicide attempts follow, and the spirit persists to sooth him. Muhammad begins to believe he is a messenger of god. A messenger of a god who's influence caused him to attempt suicide.
     

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    What about killing in the name of crusade . Why do you kill?
    IRA, LTTE, LRA, Tripura, Norway right wing groups, Hitler, Nazi.
    Mohamed never commuted suicide. Y2k lies a lot
    Is it allowed?
    Dogs should answer

     
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    PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE WHO ENCOUNTERED GOD


    Let's further compare Muhammad's experience with Biblical stories of men who had experiences with God.

    Noah - Gen. 6.

    God speaks to Noah and tells him that He is going to destroy the earth. Noah does not panic, become depressed, or driven by fear. He knows that this God speaking to him, and there is no need for rash action. Noah knows this is God, and Noah does not become irrational. Noah knows that this God is not going to harm him.


    Abraham - Gen. 12 - 18.

    God speaks to Abraham. Abraham does not panic, Abraham is not bewildered, Abraham does not doubt or become depressed, Abraham believes and obeys. God visited Abraham, yet neither he nor Sarah attempts any rash actions.



    Moses - Ex. 3 - 34

    God appeared to Moses in the burning bush. Moses was afraid to look at God but Moses does not act paranoid. He knew that this God was not a God of terror. Moses did not run back to his family frightened out of his mind. Moses did not become depressed over the event, thinking he was possessed or bewitched. Instead, because Moses personally experienced this God and knew he could trust this God, Moses knew and obeyed.


    Isaiah - Isaiah 6

    Isaiah had a powerful vision and experience of God. Yet he did not lose his mind, he was not driven by dread of God. He feared God because of the sin in his heart, and the sinfulness of the people he dwelt among, but he did not panic. During this experience he realized God had forgiven him and accepted him. Because he experienced the real God, Isaiah did not attempt suicide or any other rash action. His mind was sound, he did not need to have a "spirit" continue to sooth him.


    Mary - Luke 1.

    The real Gabriel also visited Mary. She too was perplexed and afraid. But during her experience with Gabriel, she gained confidence and strength. She knew God loved her. She did not become irrational or depressed, and she did not run around frightened out of her mind. She did not attempt suicide. Instead, because she experienced the living God, she knew she was loved and accepted. She knew this God was real, and she had nothing to fear.



    Jesus - Mark 1.

    When Jesus Christ began His ministry, He was baptized in water. The Holy Spirit descended upon Him. God spoke from heaven, and the people there heard God speak, "This is my beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased." There were no panic attacks, depression, or doubt.


    And, after Jesus was challenged by Satan in the desert He was ministered to by the angels. But Muhammad was ministered to by none. You get the feeling that instead of ministering, those spirits haunted him. Satan told Jesus "If you are the Son of God, throw Yourself down", the spirit told Muhammad to not throw himself down - he was the apostle of Allah.


    As I read the stories about people in the Bible who encountered God I do not find anything that resembles Muhammad's experience. These people actually met God, while Muhammad's entire prophethood rests only upon what a spirit interface told him. These people were filled with a reverent fear, but never became depressed as a result of their experience. These people fellowshipped with God. Some walked with Him, to other's He revealed Himself. None of them contemplated suicide. But many times over a course of up to three years, Muhammad tried to commit suicide, and each time this "spirit" stopped him. What plans did this spirit have in store for him?

    From very Interesting web article not my own words or ideas

    My dear friend any average person knows what Islam is all about therefore you have no chance unless Madhi come and kill in the name of allah

    Satan will give him power he will spread his seeds in this world but no matter how he tries truth will prevail
     

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    What about killing in the name of crusade . Why do you kill?
    IRA, LTTE, LRA, Tripura, Norway right wing groups, Hitler, Nazi.
    Mohamed never commuted suicide. Y2k lies a lot
    Is it allowed?
    Dogs should answer


    Satan is a terriorist , he is No.1 terriorist in this world , you go mad when I say mohomed is a false prophet , Mohomed is a sinner, child abuser, No.1 killer there is no real peace in Islam but I am not call you "A Dog" I know even Quran hates Jews & Christians (I know the reason why) Allah hates Chrisitans more than any other religious group you have no idea why is that? Islam copied many things from the Bible then try to say Jesus is not the Messiah today all the muslims teach you that Jesus is just a prophet , but you can read the bible and most importantly ask Jesus to reveal himself brother because you also respect Jesus right? I will also pray for you I am not calling you "a God" rather I call you "My Brother"

    This is Christianity , people think killing is ok when it's done in the name of GOD but Jesus told us they niether know GOd or what they are really doing

    Killing is not aprroved by any means by Jesus (son of living God) but Mohomed approved killing in the name of allah

    Regarding Crusaders my friend that is Just war because Muslims are try to kill all the Jews and take the holy land , if I was Allah I will raised mohomed in other country instead of historical Jeruserlam but Allah wants something else

    Islam is agressive , We know Lord Buddha said killing is bad, but do you think Buddhist will just wait and see if Muslims invade Sri lanka? I dont think so
     

    ibnanv

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    Come on why so many wars. What did Hitler do .What did the crusader do. Even given green light by POPE. Why so many Lies.
     

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    just for that, i'm gonna actively advocate suicide from today.

    any suicidal person i see will be encouraged to kill themselves.

    i'll be handing out fliers advocating suicide daily at town hall from today. i will make advocating suicide to the masses my LIFE GOAL.

    hope you can handle that on your conscience. :)