EELAM MYTHBUSTING!!

tharinda07

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sri_lion said:
I'm reading all your articles, one by one... there's a lot so give me sometime OK!

Will comment soon!:)

They are not mine.
they're Prof.Nalin De Silva's articles

so All credits goes to Prof.Nalin De Silva and his crew :):)

 
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skanthan

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    I do not have to prove anything. Just go to www.wikipedia.org type in the commmand search in quotation marks, "Sri Lankan Tamils" and click search, that will take you directly to the information about Sri Lankan Tamils. At the bottom of the page, you may find some internal and external links that also provide information about the history of Tamils in Sri Lanka.
     

    kosandpol

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    skanthan said:
    I do not have to prove anything. Just go to www.wikipedia.org type in the commmand search in quotation marks, "Sri Lankan Tamils" and click search, that will take you directly to the information about Sri Lankan Tamils. At the bottom of the page, you may find some internal and external links that also provide information about the history of Tamils in Sri Lanka.
    Since when is wikipedia a certified source of accurate information ?
    Anyone can add or edit data in that.
     

    paalugama

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  • sri_lion said:
    NOTE: This is in EK-Pro section if this is not important to you, don't bother replying! Thank You!

    Now all around the world Pro-LTTE factions when confronted with the question of why fight in Sri Lanka give some common reasons, let’s look at them and try to figure out what's FACT and what's FICTION!!

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    Myth

    When Portuguese took the Island in 1505 there were 3 separate Kingdoms 2 of which (Jaffna and Eastern, as one) belongs to Tamils and one (the rest of Sri Lanka) belong to Sinhalese.

    Facts
    1. According to the book "Temporal and Spiritual Conquest of Ceylon" by the Portuguese historian Fernao De Queyros (Book 1, Page 101) it is stated that by 16th century the island was divided into 5 sub-Kingdoms, Kotte and others which were tributary to it, acknowledging the King of Kotte as the Emperor, and one of those sub Kingdoms was Jaffnaputnam
    2. Robert Knox - the famous prisoner, landed in Trincomalee (Cottiar Bay) in 1659 A.D. and was apprehended by the Dissawa of Tambalegama and produced infront of the King of Kandy, if Trinco was separate Tamil land why prisoners had to be taken all the way to Kandy to see a King?
    3. In 1766, the King of Kandy signed a treaty with Dutch Governer Flack, ceding areas of west coast and also east cost to the Dutch, why did Dutch had to come to the King of Kandy to sign agreements if the Island was ruled as 3 separate Kingdoms? Not on one occasion on 2 occasions one treaty in 1766 and one prior to that in 1638 which was known as The Kandyan Treaty!
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    Myth

    Sinhalese did not populate Jaffna before Tamils

    Facts
    1. On a plate which was found Vallipuram near Point Pedro belongs King Vasaba mentions about a Minister named Piyaguka Tissa who built a Vihara which 12000 monks were said to have resided, the minister must have hailed from the ancient province of Piyangudeepa which is the modern Pungudutivu, this is proof that Sinahlese have been occupying Jaffna as early as 1st century A.D
    2. Mangala Vihara (restored by King Dhatusena 5 A.D.), Salipabbata vihara in Nagadipa
    3. It was at the ancient port of Jambukola, the present Sambiliturai, in the Jaffna peninsula that the envoys of king Devanampiya Tissa (250-210) embarked when leaving Ceylon on their mission to the court of Asoka (273-236). It was also at this port that the Theri Sanghamitta and her retinue had disembarked when they came from India with a branch of the Bodhi tree at Buddhagaya during the reign of Devanampiya Tissa. The Theri and her retinue were received by Devanampiya Tissa, who had come to Jambukola from Anuradhapura
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    Myth

    Tamils are not free to live where they choose to in Sri Lanka, and facing a genocide

    Facts
    1. Over 50% of overall Tamil population live outside of the LTTE’s supposed EELAM
    2. But Sinhalese, Muslims and other races aren’t welcome into LTTE controlled areas
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    Myth

    Tamils are not provided with the same education as Sinhalese

    Facts
    1. Tamils are given free education by every Sri Lankan govt. in their own language in Tamil medium schools, also many Sinhalese schools has Tamil medium education running parallel to Sinhalese medium especially for Tamil children.
    2. Even schools in the areas dominated by the LTTE are maintained by the govt., so does health care and other common facilities!
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    Myth

    Tamil culture, language and livelihood has not been recognized in Sri Lanka

    Facts
    1. Tamil is already an official language in Sri Lanka, United States is home to over 15% Latino and Hispanic origin of people but US maintains only 1 official language that's English, even India's official languages are only Hindi and English where 60 million Tamils live, only Southern States of India Tamil accept as a official language, where as in Sri Lanka its not limited to North and North East!
    2. Every government document used by public is published in all 3 languages, Sinhalese, Tamil and English
    3. The biggest and the most recognized festival of Sri Lanka, the Sinhalese and Tamil new year is celebrated by both parties
    4. Tamil religious festivities and celebrations have been recognized and declared as public holidays, infact so does to every other race accounting least of average 25 holidays per year, where as countries like Malaysia have only recognized them as recent as 2008
    5. Tamils have been represented on the National Flag itself by a vertical stripe of orange color, probably the only national flag that represents Tamils
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    Reference:

    > A historical relation of the Island of Ceylon- March 2004
    > Sri Lanka and the mythical Tamil Homeland - by Embassy of Sri Lanka Washington DC, USA
    > Mahavamsa - The Receiving of the Great Bodhi-Tree
    > Schools in Jaffna
    > THE GREAT CHRONICLE OF CEYLON, TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH BY WILHELM GEIGER
    > Percentage distribution of population by ethnic group and district

    10000000% correct!
    What world sees is a fabricated myths distributed by pro LTTEs!
    Adding few to this,

    In many parts of Sri Lanka Non LTTE tamils live a good life far better than many poor sinhala & muslims Eg: if you visit villages in remote areas of Monaragala, Hambanthota, Amapaara Anuradhapura they have a pathetic life than those live in Jaffna!
    So actually poor development affects whole country & not tamil areas only! if we think Jaffna Trinco & Vavuniya which had got less LTTE touch in last few years than wanni, had a more or less same fascilities like other parts of the country except for few things obviously due to LTTE threats. So LTTE is the one who prevented tamils in Vanni ( plus jaffna. batti ) getting modern world fasilities, technology & entertainments etc!

    If we calculate percentage wise, the educated well proffessionals in sri lanka there is larger propotion of tamils ( than if solely consider tamil population percentage) so if tamils were deprived in Education in 70s 80s how that could happen? they did got equel and good educaton like sinhalese & muslims but in 90s it was disturbed by LTTE. So LTTE is the one who prevented education rights of Sri lankan tamils!

    If we think wealth wise, most of bussiness conglomerates in sri lanka receive a good piece of ownerships with tamil bussinessmen
    & among most wealthiest persons in Sl there are lot of well educate tamils who works very corperatively with the community
    So There is no disturbances to Tamils per se when doing genuin bussinesses here!

    All the disturbances faces tamils are common to sinhales & muslims in the country & any thing if they faces beyond that level are obvioulsly due to the acts of LTTE!
     

    paalugama

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  • skanthan said:
    I do not have to prove anything. Just go to www.wikipedia.org type in the commmand search in quotation marks, "Sri Lankan Tamils" and click search, that will take you directly to the information about Sri Lankan Tamils. At the bottom of the page, you may find some internal and external links that also provide information about the history of Tamils in Sri Lanka.
    Bro wikipedia is a collection of things which are added by many people and any body can add anything despite those are true or false .
    Just tried to find out few books written by Great Ponnambalam Ramanathan! then you can find real history of Sri lanka!

    Tamil people were here for centuries that's true and whether they came after sinhalese or not does not matter as far as they are given same rights as others in SL ( of cause they did enjoy the same rights as others but LTTE destroy all those!)
    BTW Obvious history is sinhalese settled in the country first sp in nothern part of the island & then tamils migrated from south india! & then muslims settled in SL!

    Did u know how the word Eelam originates?
    Earlier sri lanka was called

    helaya
    Seehelaya
    seehalam
    eehalam
    eelam

    this is how by generation by generation people in south India used to call the island situated south of their country now called Sri Lana!

    Do you know how eelam as only for Tamils originated within SL politicians?
    There were 2 politicians called Chelvanayagam & Amirthalingam, And in 40s 50s there is a huge support from normal tamil population to UNP ( there were many great tamil politicins with UNP who believe one sri LAnka)and it was very disturbing to so called federal part of Chelvanayagam and he started this north only for tamils concept which was actually politicalised by Amirthalingsm for his servival in political field and he made very attractive concept of eelam among some tamil youths and pave the path to formation of many armed tamil groups which later forcefully implanted among general tamil people by way of brain wash and secluding them from outside world!
    Unfortunately the selfish Pirabaharan killed Amirthalingam to prevent if some how the eelam come to true, as the more credits going to amirthalingam

    But those are the people who ruined the future of thousands of tamils!
     
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    chintha4u

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    skanthan said:
    I do not believe that! There have been Tamils in Sri Lanka for hundreds of years before the 12th century! Tamils first arrived in Sri Lanka 500 years after the Sinhalese came there.

    What you mean as Sinhalese came to Sri Lanka. Do you mean about vijaya's arrival ?? If so you have miss understand the history. Sinhalese were here in Sri Lanka before Vijaya came here. He was just a enemy. And Sinhalese fight back.

    And Sri .... As I remember Arya Chakrawarthi was the one defeated by Sapumal. Well I don't have any references with me. But I'll check it when I get to home.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • DJ.Parker said:
    as far as i know tamils weren't allowed to cast votes.
    Wrong. Some upcountry Tamils who were not registered as SL citizens weren't allowed to vote. But almost every Tamil in N&E were able to vote.

    Dudley-chelvanayagam/Bandaranayake-chelvanayagam pacts were nt successful....... the political situation got worse and finally............BOOM!
    (the sunday lakbima has a special supplimentary about it. get ur hands to it if u can)
    Political situation was made worse by actions of elite tamil politicians.


    anyways......... lets hope mr.presidents new political solution will work properly and yeh.........a country with peace n harmony :)
    If the political solution is power sharing, it will not work, but will open up a set of can of worms. What is needed is a revolution of the attitudes of people towards majorities and minirities.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • skanthan said:
    I do not have to prove anything. Just go to www.wikipedia.org type in the commmand search in quotation marks, "Sri Lankan Tamils" and click search, that will take you directly to the information about Sri Lankan Tamils. At the bottom of the page, you may find some internal and external links that also provide information about the history of Tamils in Sri Lanka.
    Any one can post any article in the internet. What I would like is physical evidence proven archaeologically. Various ytheories by various people does not count here.
     

    paalugama

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  • skanthan said:
    Eelam (pronounced: eezham) means.

    1) Ceylon*
    2) Toddy (kaL)
    3) the spurge plant (kaLLi)

    Another name in Tamil for Sri Lanka, which is use most common in Sri Lankan and Indian Tamil media is "Ilangai". Eezham is use only in the form of "Eezhatthu which means "from Ceylon" or in the phrase "Thamizheezha Vidudhalai PuligaL" which is the Tamil name for the now defunct LTTE.


    Hey finally thats what we are telling! Sri lanka ( or eelam) is the land for both sinhalese & tamils ( and Muslims )
    Thats even enough how LTTE fqabricated the history!
    There is no ONLY Sinhala motherland or only Tamil motherland its all of the sri lankans motherland
    So HOW LTTE mislead all!
     

    paalugama

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  • DJ.Parker said:
    @sri:
    what do u mean by rising of sinhalese?

    as far as i know tamils weren't allowed to cast votes. Dudley-chelvanayagam/Bandaranayake-chelvanayagam pacts were nt successful....... the political situation got worse and finally............BOOM!
    (the sunday lakbima has a special supplimentary about it. get ur hands to it if u can)


    anyways......... lets hope mr.presidents new political solution will work properly and yeh.........a country with peace n harmony :)

    No Dear its wrong. tamils were never prevented from casting votes
    But u know in 30s & 40s only some sinhala , some tamil & some muslims were allowed to vote! ( most sinhalese tamils etc were not allowed to cast votes)
    then when a everybody got the voting right it was same for all, except the tamil people brought here from India to work in Tea estates ( so original north & east tamils were never prevented ) & that problem occured as they have not got a sri lankan citizenship that time!
    & even chelvanayagam did not tried hard to obtain these tamil people's voting rights & its Thonderman & some UNP'iers work for that plus Mrs Bandaranayake!
     

    skanthan

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    chintha4u said:
    What you mean as Sinhalese came to Sri Lanka. Do you mean about vijaya's arrival ?? If so you have miss understand the history. Sinhalese were here in Sri Lanka before Vijaya came here. He was just a enemy. And Sinhalese fight back.

    And Sri .... As I remember Arya Chakrawarthi was the one defeated by Sapumal. Well I don't have any references with me. But I'll check it when I get to home.

    Yes, that is what I had meant. If I had offended anyone in anyway, I am sorry for that. And I do know that the Sinhalese have been in Sri Lanka for a long time before Vijaya or any Tamils came to the island.
     

    skanthan

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    paalugama said:
    Hey finally thats what we are telling! Sri lanka ( or eelam) is the land for both sinhalese & tamils ( and Muslims )
    Thats even enough how LTTE fabricated the history!
    There is no ONLY Sinhala motherland or only Tamil motherland its all of the sri lankans motherland
    So HOW LTTE mislead all!

    That is very true. Sri Lanka, Eezham, Serendip.. is the motherland of Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims. But, unfortunately. the term Eezham got a very bad rap due to the fanaticism of the LTTE.

    I do not knoe if I said this previously, but this word Eezham was there in Tamil long before there ever was an LTTE.
     

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    @ wal bada:

    yes I agree 100% for the fact that attitudes should be changed.

    And thanks everyone for not spoiling this thread. It's nice to see arguments and counter arguments being made in a friendly way without taking it to a personal level. :) Keep up the good spirit when continuing this thread.