Guys, here is a challenge for you...regarding hard disks

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    Anusha said:
    That's like the worst setup a person could come up with! Duh!!!!

    NOTE: I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO POST YOUR CRAPPY SETUP! COME UP WITH A SETUP FOR ME!!!!
    who cares, its just a pc, we dnt want every tiny bit of performance out of it, I just love the practicality or wtever v call it, dnt hav tym to SETUP HDDs lol. Sorry for spaming ur thread :rolleyes: LOL. Intresting concept anywy :D
     

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    zCexVe said:
    WTF?
    Get a SCSI with 15000 RPM for the OS.Velociraptors or raptors RAIDed 1 for data.Security + speed + lower seek times. :P
    Again, you are forgetting one important requirement. Keeping it cheap!!!
     

    Anusha

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    kosandpol said:
    Quite simply because you are not satisfied with mere hard disk setups.
    Besides using ram drives or hard drives has no significance with power failures.
    On a power failure, if the modified data has not been written back to the hard disk, ram drive or not, the data is lost.
    A ram drive speeds up execution so that is the ideal for performance.
    But the hassle is too much. Copying to RAM, then saving back to HDD (doesn't matter if it is still automatically handled). Can't shutdown the PC quickly. All these crap!
     

    kosandpol

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    Anusha said:
    But the hassle is too much. Copying to RAM, then saving back to HDD (doesn't matter if it is still automatically handled). Can't shutdown the PC quickly. All these crap!

    You cant have the cake and eat it too. If you want pure performance, you have to sacrifice on some other areas.
     

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    henderson said:
    My suggestion is
    use
    WD VelociRaptor (WD3000HLFS/WD3000GLFS) 300GB drive with 3 partitons
    40G for OS
    100G for programs
    rest for games

    use
    WD1002FBYS 1T drive
    for multimedia applications (partitioning is at users discretion)

    http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=459&language=en
    I see a flow in this. Having Windows and Programmes in the same drive in two partitions sucks!!! I mean, the programs most of the times need access to Windows folder (system files etc.) so when launching an app required the hard disk seeking two partitions. That is no good!!!

    If a single disk is used, Windows and Programs should be in the same partition.

    Makes sense? Better to get two 150GB Velos than a single 300GB Velo. (not to RAID)
     
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    Anusha said:
    I see a flow in this. Having Windows and Programmes in the same drive in two partitions sucks!!! I mean, the programs most of the times need access to Windows folder (system files etc.) so when launching an app required the hard disk seeking two partitions. That is no good!!!

    If a single disk is used, Windows and Programs should be in the same partition.

    Makes sense? Better to get two 150GB Velos than a single 300GB Velo. (not to RAID)

    sure, I think you are correct. But I considered power bill also here by reducing no of drives. Anyway there is a point in what you are saying. Then programs should move to another disc.
     

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    henderson said:
    sure, I think you are correct. But I considered power bill also here by reducing no of drives. Anyway there is a point in what you are saying. Then programs should move to another disc.
    But do you know that the power is mostly consumed when seeking. Two drives *might* give better power consumption results because of reduced seeks.
     

    Anusha

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    henderson said:
    well I never knew that. I thought most of power is used to keep discs spinning. Thanks for the information.
    Well, it is not that significant. And the power consumption of hard drives is not intolerable (at least for me)
     

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    zCexVe said:
    I see you have posted your great question in techpowerup.The only answer you got is even from a girl :p :rofl:
    I guess you forgot your glasses when you read the thread :rofl:. That's not the same thing as I asked in this thread. It's a RAID related question :P :P
     

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    this aint a big problm :P

    cofig 1
    use raid-0 to system drive[os] [ie use 2hdd WD raptor]
    use raid-5,6 with personal data [no limit]

    cofig2
    use raid-1+0 to system drive[os] [ie use 4hdd WD raptor]
    use raid-53 with personal data [no limit,4+,even]

    data arrangment is up to u...

    if u want more reliability , use Drobo series..
     

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    HIVOLTAG3 said:
    this aint a big problm :P

    cofig 1
    use raid-0 to system drive[os] [ie use 2hdd WD raptor]
    use raid-5,6 with personal data [no limit]

    cofig2
    use raid-1+0 to system drive[os] [ie use 4hdd WD raptor]
    use raid-53 with personal data [no limit,4+,even]

    data arrangment is up to u...

    if u want more reliability , use Drobo series..
    Data management is the biggest problem, not choosing the hard disks. Ever heard of short stroking? If you do that to the Raptor RAID-0 volume, you will be left with a substantial amount of free space and I don't know what to put there.

    I guess the only option is to go for small 32GB SSD drives maybe with RAID-0 for Windows/Apps/Games and use a 1TB or two 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black drives (not RAID-0) :/

    The thing is I'm not worried about the hard drives failing, but I'm worried about the RAID volume getting corrupted.
     

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    Anusha said:
    Data management is the biggest problem, not choosing the hard disks. Ever heard of short stroking? If you do that to the Raptor RAID-0 volume, you will be left with a substantial amount of free space and I don't know what to put there.

    I guess the only option is to go for small 32GB SSD drives maybe with RAID-0 for Windows/Apps/Games and use a 1TB or two 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black drives (not RAID-0) :/

    The thing is I'm not worried about the hard drives failing, but I'm worried about the RAID volume getting corrupted.

    WHATZ da prob wit sripped array.. use dat array to os/games/appz[b cos even da os is loading throug same array, if u hv reasonable ammount of ram+swap file is on ram disk,then there is no significant prof loss.]

    yep: using wd raptor with raid is waste of space,using SSD drives is a good optn.

    but how is dat RAID vol get currupted?? if u use dp or ddp??

    i mean if u hv sensitive data,u hv to use dp,ddp anyway isnt it?.