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sri_lion

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vishva8kumara said:
I'm so disappointed that this thread could not serve its purpose yet.

It seems that the main problem is credibility. If you are willing to get my help, you may get more information about me on Email. Nobody needs to publish their private information on public internet.

I don't see any reason to be desperate to share few private information. If your privacy is that important, well, I can't help you. I'm bound to the PHF (Pranic Healing Foundation) to keep patient information secret.

I'm a Registered Pranic Healer at PHF. Next week I'm starting my advanced healing cource.

Pranic Healing is a proven method. I don't think any reason to do the experiments again and again (just to quench your curiosity). And your problem is Scientific experiments? Yes Pranic healing is Scientifically experimented and proven! See the video I have posted...

First things first!

So let me talk about the Video first.... This is called journalism.. they report a new trend they do nothing more than what our friend SDasun have done, they are reporting+advertising, and I'm really sorry to say that there's NO.. I repeat.. NO clue what so ever in that Video to say its scientifically proven, I urge other members to watch the video too... If I have money and contacts I can get prime time too!! :lol: :lol: And the video itself says this Pranic healer is famous among Hollywood stars.. :lol: :lol:

First I think you must learn what an experiment is... the video you posted shows PERSONAL PREFERENCE.. NOT experiment!!

Also in 6.38 in the video I see the healer light a candle made to a shape of a Buddha, he is burning lord Buddha's statue!:rolleyes: While master KOK writes books about "Compassionate Objectivity", I somehow find it rather amusing but with a bit of a sadness I must add this is the kind of wrong / rogue practices that conveys wrong messages to western countries about Buddhism, and our people come to forums like this opens up thread saying westerners destroy Buddhism... oh well... look who's helping!!

Anyway I think you fail to comprehend the real situation although this thread has come thus far... with lot of issues ignored or unanswered by you!

But together with the privacy issue.. I would like to ask you directly in this reply that..

Like you have mentioned in you disclaimer what if a patient get sick because of a food item or herb you suggested while he is still going for mainstream medicine...who is there to take responsibility? Do you have such knowledge?

Another issue that has gone unanswered, you as a pranic healer doing another job... you did mention people not to call you during office hours.. So I guess this makes your part time... how can you half-devote yourself to your patients? you mean you will only available when you like?

Yet another issue, when I asked you could contact Prabakaran, you made this remark

Last time we tried this, we could not bear the released energy. I felt sick because I didn't knew much on defencing myself. Thanks for reminding this again. One thing, Piribaharan is not in Sri Lanka now...

Lets say some of your patients releases the same energy... So that person has no hope getting healed by Pranic healing or you are not qualified enough?

I do have many other questions, which I will ask in due time, No hurry.. I'm always here!:lol:
 

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sri_lion said:
Anyway I think you fail to comprehend the real situation although this thread has come thus far... with lot of issues ignored or unanswered by you!
I really don't want to answer your stupid, lame questions. That's why I ignore them.

sri_lion said:
Like you have mentioned in you disclaimer what if a patient get sick because of a food item or herb you suggested while he is still going for mainstream medicine...who is there to take responsibility? Do you have such knowledge?
Have you ever heard about "Food Amounts". Have you ever heard about "Body Inner Heat" or commonly known in Sinhalese as "Uushna" A known food supplement administered in food amounts is known to make "No Harm". That means If you eat a Cucumber, or drink a brew of some culinary spice in food amounts... Those are not even considered as medicine. Those are "Ath Beheth".

sri_lion said:
Another issue that has gone unanswered, you as a pranic healer doing another job... you did mention people not to call you during office hours.. So I guess this makes your part time... how can you half-devote yourself to your patients? you mean you will only available when you like?
A healing session will take a maximum of half an hour. We are not handling emergency issues. If you have an emergency issue, please go to the hospital, because we are not doctors. I must say this. If I have an emergency medical issue I will also go to the doctor, or to the hospital.

sri_lion said:
Lets say some of your patients releases the same energy... So that person has no hope getting healed by Pranic healing or you are not qualified enough?
Those days I didn't knew much about this, (I kept quiet and kept learning). Now I'm educated on how to harness the powers. That is why I'm reaching out to help others...
 

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  • vishva8kumara said:
    WRONG! Those are Alternative Medicine. Complementary medicine is something else...
    Wrong.

    This is what British Journalof Medicine (BMJ) defines ac somplementary medicine.

    Complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) is a broad domain of healing resources that encompasses all health systems, modalities, and practices and their accompanying theories and beliefs, other than those intrinsic to the politically dominant health system of a particular society or culture in a given historical period. CAM includes all such practices and ideas self-defined by their users as preventing or treating illness or promoting health and well-being. Boundaries within CAM and between the CAM domain and that of the dominant system are not always sharp or fixed

    They have listed following as complementary medicine.

    Acupressure
    Chiropractic*
    Naturopathy
    Acupuncture*
    Cranial osteopathy
    Nutritional therapy*
    Alexander technique
    Environmental medicine
    Osteopathy*
    Reflexology*
    Applied kinesiology
    Healing Reiki
    Anthroposophic medicine
    Herbal medicine*
    Relaxation and
    Aromatherapy*
    Homoeopathy*
    visualisation*
    Autogenic training
    Hypnosis*
    Shiatsu
    Ayurveda
    Massage*
    Therapeutic touch
    Meditation*
    Yoga*

    And here is from Wikipedia

    Surprise! Surprise! Pranic healing does not appear in any of these texts. I am feeling something is fishy here.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • Once there was a study done by a university... (I will try my best to find it on the web) which they gave aspirin to some patients whom said they have headaches and to some patients who has the same symptoms they gave just a pill made of wheat flour or something both looked the same but none of the patients were told what medicine they were taken.. surprisingly even the patients who took the non-aspirin claimed that after taking the medicine their headache disappeared!! This is the nature of human.. it has got nothing to do with anything else...

    When people go to a doctor they expect Medicine.. they expect some pills.. this is how they measure them!!! patients always expect doctor to behave the way they want... not the way the professional think is appropriate!!

    I think maybe Wal Bada have such experiences! Lets see what he has to say!
    That's called the Placebo effect. Even if you give water saying it's medicine, some patients symptoms will get better. Most of the time it's pain related and psychosomatic symptoms.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • twisted said:
    ok they will recommend herbs and foods but do you know what herbs and foods are they arent no poisons well let's say they were and do you think ppl would be stupid enough to eat them still?
    What's the plant that is not a poison? If you drink more than 16 liters of water per day, you'll get water intoxication. The golden saying is Every poison in correct amount is a drug. Every drug in wrong amount is a poison
     

    Wal Bada

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  • vishva8kumara said:
    It seems that the main problem is credibility
    Yes, it is. Without a governing body resposible to the government, you are not credible as a healer / doctor.

    vishva8kumara said:
    I don't see any reason to be desperate to share few private information. If your privacy is that important, well, I can't help you. I'm bound to the PHF (Pranic Healing Foundation) to keep patient information secret.
    Question is PHF is not bound to anything to keep that information secret. DO you get RATIONALE behind my question?

    vishva8kumara said:
    I'm a Registered Pranic Healer at PHF. Next week I'm starting my advanced healing cource.
    Good.

    vishva8kumara said:
    Pranic Healing is a proven method.
    I want evidence from placebo controlled double blind randomized trials. Other sources are are hoax.

    vishva8kumara said:
    I don't think any reason to do the experiments again and again (just to quench your curiosity). And your problem is Scientific experiments? Yes Pranic healing is Scientifically experimented and proven! See the video I have posted...
    I don't want a shit about the video, and scientific community doesn't care shit about them I want reseach papers published in a journal that globally catogorizd in indexing service (Ex. Enternz PubMed). Show those videos to "Appuhamy" of the villages. We are professionals and if you want to deal with us, do it in the prescribed method. Randomized, placebo contriolled, double blind trials.
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    Wrong.

    This is what British Journalof Medicine (BMJ) defines ac somplementary medicine.



    They have listed following as complementary medicine.

    Acupressure
    Chiropractic*
    Naturopathy
    Acupuncture*
    Cranial osteopathy
    Nutritional therapy*
    Alexander technique
    Environmental medicine
    Osteopathy*
    Reflexology*
    Applied kinesiology
    Healing Reiki
    Anthroposophic medicine
    Herbal medicine*
    Relaxation and
    Aromatherapy*
    Homoeopathy*
    visualisation*
    Autogenic training
    Hypnosis*
    Shiatsu
    Ayurveda
    Massage*
    Therapeutic touch
    Meditation*
    Yoga*

    And here is from Wikipedia

    Surprise! Surprise! Pranic healing does not appear in any of these texts. I am feeling something is fishy here.
    Healing Reiki is the word they have used. Reiki is in the list. It is synonimus (Japanese) to Pranic Healing. So, They have used the Japanese word for Pranic Healing. Do you understand the meaning of the Japanse word "Reiki"? That's why we use the word "Pranic"!
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    That's called the Placebo effect. Even if you give water saying it's medicine, some patients symptoms will get better. Most of the time it's pain related and psychosomatic symptoms.
    This is not relevent at all. Because we don't prescribe medicine.
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    What's the plant that is not a poison? If you drink more than 16 liters of water per day, you'll get water intoxication. The golden saying is Every poison in correct amount is a drug. Every drug in wrong amount is a poison
    Food Amounts...
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    What's the plant that is not a poison? If you drink more than 16 liters of water per day, you'll get water intoxication. The golden saying is Every poison in correct amount is a drug. Every drug in wrong amount is a poison

    i moved on :rofl::rofl:
     

    Wal Bada

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  • vishva8kumara said:
    Healing Reiki is the word they have used. Reiki is in the list. It is synonimus (Japanese) to Pranic Healing. So, They have used the Japanese word for Pranic Healing. Do you understand the meaning of the Japanse word "Reiki"? That's why we use the word "Pranic"!
    That was in respose to this.

    vishva8kumara said:
    WRONG! Those are Alternative Medicine. Complementary medicine is something else..

    Now you see that Pranic Healinh (PH) is also grouped in same category as Ayurveda. You fellows don't fall in to a special category, and no one cares to put you there when regarding as alternate methods of healing. And I have said that all complementary medicine systems needs governing bodies. Point still stands.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • vishva8kumara said:
    This is not relevent at all. Because we don't prescribe medicine.
    You prescribe food isn't it? Let's see it in te perspective of an Ayurvedic doctor. According to them foods are also medicine. Ayurveda is regulated by a governing body. According to them, you are prescribing medicines. Trying to play around words will not work. Somewhere you are going to get caught.