How long this joy will last....? Not long, as usual...

[cjb]

Sri Lanka was overjoyed with the world cup win.
How long it lasted.

Now where are the heroes?

How do you feel about them.

Compare what you felt then
and how do you feel now.
Arjuna we see now
do not stimulate the emotions he evoked in us then.

War is over,
Prabhakaran is dead.
LTTE is wiped out.

Now there is joy all around..

How long it would last.
Check it from day to day.

The nature of Sankhara is decay.
Vaya dhamma sankhaara

Anithya
Change.

Why do you get so excited about something so temporary
and become someone worse than you.
Aren't you bad enough.

​

AMMAGE REDDA

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

no matter what ppl says bro i have to say what you say is the truth

The percentage
which is interested in these matters
is less but not zero.

​

 

[samruka]

athula's dads dead...mom's missing...step brother also dead....he has gone insane...may lord sympathies him and grow him a back bone to face the truth

 

[Renesas]

AtulaSiriwardane Google Search Result​

 

[Tony Yayo]

Yes naturally.

The thing is the celebrative mood in people will wear out soon, and it has to. You cant expect people to be shouting their asses off all the time firing crackers...Personally I am totaly against this method of ceebration of our community.

People should get into their shoes and start working at some time or the other, not celebrating for the rest of their ives.

If that happens, then the country would be in a worst situation than being terrorized.

Now what people should do s work hard, better resource allocation (simple commerce!) , implement supply side policies and boost the economic growth and Development of the country.

 

[cha_sl]

Sri Lanka was overjoyed with the world cup win.
How long it lasted.

There is no more calibration, but it's till in my heart for ever.

Now where are the heroes?
How do you feel about them.

I respect them, so do the word. Thats why we call our team ' world champs'

Compare what you felt then
and how do you feel now.
Arjuna we see now
do not stimulate the emotions he evoked in us then.

Many do, thats why he is a MP, he will be a MP for decades without doing anything remarkable again.

War is over,
Prabhakaran is dead.
LTTE is wiped out.

Now there is joy all around..

How long it would last.
Check it from day to day.

Celebrations will end, but joy will last long. Just like we remember king Dutugamunu in joy.

The nature of Sankhara is decay.
Vaya dhamma sankhaara

Anithya
Change.

Yes, you should change for some time. at least for a moment like this.

Why do you get so excited about something so temporary
and become someone worse than you.
Aren't you bad enough.

Because I like to. Thats why i celebrate the enlightenment of Buddha. I know this only last another 2500 years. But celebrating it wont make me a bad person.

cheers

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

I'll tell you something ..... open a thread saying

I'M GLAD MY COUNTRY FINALY UNDER ONE FLAG​

It was and then it was not... again it was and again it was... it will go on.. but I am glad... If people live better lives...

 

[TΞΞNSTAR™]

Hmm.. You make a point over there bro..

BUT

This victory is something that each and every Sri Lankan should celebrate...

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

There is no more calibration, but it's till in my heart for ever.



I respect them, so do the word. Thats why we call our team ' world champs'



Many do, thats why he is a MP, he will be a MP for decades without doing anything remarkable again.



Celebrations will end, but joy will last long. Just like we remember king Dutugamunu in joy.



Yes, you should change for some time. at least for a moment like this.



Because I like to. Thats why i celebrate the enlightenment of Buddha. I know this only last another 2500 years. But celebrating it wont make me a bad person.

cheers

Agreed with most...
Thanks

​

 

[Tony Yayo]

athula's dads dead...mom's missing...step brother also dead....he has gone insane...may lord sympathies him and grow him a back bone to face the truth

How do you know?

Are you his spouse? Or adapting parent?

Or some shit whose got an itch in the wrong place?

Start cracking some FUNNY jokes...

 

[Tony Yayo]

And your point is?

 

[TharinduNadunPerera]

GTRZ ban this will you?

 

[suranga84]

THO ATHAL EKATA GAHALA, KARUMETA IPADICHCHA P*NNAYEK!! THOWA HADUWATA WADA HONDAI SARAME PIHADAGATHTHANAM THOPE APPA!!

mu nam sirama pon..yek.meka karumeta gahala karumetama hadichcha ekek.
tota war dinuwa eka honda natnam nikan hitapiya pon..a pa..ya enawa hallu karanna.

 

[Zeus]

Cricket world cup coming every 4 years. You are comparing it to a 30 year old war.
.....

So you can decide to live flat life. Born flat and die flat.

Hmm
Soo true bro
May be Athula talking wi some points yes
But his hidden agenda is to be some sort od notorious member or something

So I would like to ask some Athula
Dont we talk about Dutugamunu and Vijayabahu's unceasing war that they were made in the past about 800 years ago ???

So pal plz do some useful wrk at least like
ආච්චිට හාල් ගැරීම
පොල්ගෑම

 

[uvajira]

aurudu ganak me rate tibba lokuma prob ekai sport ekai mokakda kiyalawat hariyata wen karala aduragana beri me wage manasika mattama adu mee harakek karumeta tamai me rate ipadila ine...

 

[sri_lion]

Everything matters because it is part of our life.. More you know it is easier to live without being disturbed. We can't know everything but we should know everything we can.. without being disturbed. Actually what disturbs is not what is outside. What disturbs us is the emotions which arises within us. I have trained myself to maintain upeksha toward what arises within..

You were clearly disturbed.. which means according to what you say here, you did not know anything about it, but you were in a hurry to jump into conclusions... wasn't that emotions on your part?

Which part of upeksha does that fall into?

So I can think and search for things without getting disturbed by what I find.

This is what we are asking... what exactly do you find in this forum? If anyone read all the replies and especially the threads that you have been creating it not would require a rocket scientist to understand that you have always criticized govt., your pun almost 99% of the time I would say directed towards govt. or Army!

Which part of upeksha does that fall into?

What I enjoy is the different responses.. I think everyone enjoys something or the other in the forum.

So you did seize the moment to stir the pot?

Doing one thing right doesn't make someone good or doing something wrong does not make one bad.. People are a mixture of both. So we respect what is good and condemn what is bad.

Dont you go back on your word now.. we came to this conclusion because you mentioned "Its good... So I respect and grateful for the part that he finished"

So were you lying earlier or are you lying now?

If people are mixture of both.. again... why worry? You know people are a mixture of both then this should not be a big surprise for you!

Lets also take your theory here again... doing something wrong does not make one bad.. are you willing to apply that theory to Mahinda too? and also to SL Army?

I usually think Army as an extension of the Govt.. not an individual force. That is why many misunderstand my threads as Anti SLA posts. I think Army is only a hand which is governed.
When someone slaps you, you would not blame the hand.

Going Off Road now... bring back your 4x4 to the highway please :lol

The question I asked was..

If I'm not mistaken, you suspected that Army will ever finish the job in the first place, what happened to those suspicions?

You answer should have been "Sorry... I was wrong", why? because you are wrong... Army finished their JOB in grand style!

Always.. yes.
That's what they are.. If I have no doubts I would not post them for more ideas... more doubts..

So no one can fully believe you on what you say! You maybe wrong!

Thanx for admitting!

Yes I did..
With every little thing he shows growth I enjoy.. I create situations we can enjoy as a family.. I usually enjoy everything in life.... but very less attached... I usually do not suffer when I miss something or lose something... not that I have the emotion... I feel sorrow, greed, anger... all these things... but they do not make me mad.... I have the training to see them at the level of the sensation just before it becomes an emotion... if I do not take that step back, the emotion would become a thought, and thought can become words or actions... If I have to act I can act without disturbed by emotion. When I was a student I remember that I killed and burnt a centepede who bitten me in the night. Now if that happens.. I can throw him out without a trace of anger toward it... That is my growth... So I understand others when they are emotional.. I know that they can't help it.

Ok so you were happy when your child was born as I understand from this post... the question I want to ask is from the next section.. so your answer is YES!

I don't really know.. As I understand it is the joy inbuilt within us by nature for its existense. I enjoyed the experience. It depends on my purity of mind.

There you go!! If you were happy because it is the joy that's being *inbuilt* to your system.... WHY CAN'T OTHERS BE HAPPY RIGHT NOW FOR THE SAME REASON?

People are patriotic they love their country, that's inbuilt from the childhood... just like you've experienced a joy, why is it so hard for you to understand they do as well

Where did I say everything is an illusion. Truth has two parts... Ultimate and conventional truths. We should be aware of both to live a peaceful life. Kind of peace you need when everything goes wrong.. not what people expect by escaping from life.

In the context of WAR and politics if I ask you what is the Ultimate truth and what is the conventional truth will you able to explain?

Buddha's way, specially Satipatthana is meant to make the whole brain and whole nervous system purified from defilements which has made a part of our mind unconscious making it conscious... We can use our brain and nervous system more and more as we practice vipassana... like recharging a battery.
Or gaining more space in your hard disk by deleting unnecessary files...

Being aware of breath is not remembering breath.. You are aware to a certain extent that you are sitting... otherwise you would fall... thats how you fall asleep... People who are less aware looks like walking in their sleep.
Tonight try to catch the moment you fall asleep... you can't.. but it is said that Arhanths don't sleep.. they would lie down but only aware.
If you draw a line from 0 to 100... mad people will be closer to zero... who are in a coma almost at zero. Arhanth is at 100... We are somwhere in between... If we get emotional we fall down toward the mad... and if we maintain awareness when we are disturbed we move toward Arhanth-Nibbana.
Awareness is the key.

But how come knowing all this... your so called *awareness* is always anti-govt?

How come your *awareness* always talk negative?

Your *awareness* as everybody can see... is politically biased!! Is that how *awareness* suppose to be?

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

So I would like to ask some Athula
Dont we talk about Dutugamunu and Vijayabahu's unceasing war that they were made in the past about 800 years ago ???

So pal plz do some useful wrk at least like
ආච්චිට හාල් ගැරීම
පොල්ගෑම

I pointed out about the emotion just diminish with time but seem so real now...
The feelings like gratitiude, admiration would remain according to ones vision.

 

[Hiranchandima]

"onama deyak onawata wada onama natha" karana gonkan walath ewarayak thiyenna epai... paw nodi gon katha kiyana 1ka nawattapan please
ubata amathak unata ape rate ahinsaka minissu kidenek marunada me kalakanni udde nisa awa apita amatha wenna na oi. bus wala bomb 1k blast karada?? ammala, thaththala,sahodara sahodariyo keedenkta nathi unada?? uba kiyanne awa ape minissu amathaka karai kiyalada?? ur sick man

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

You were clearly disturbed.. which means according to what you say here, you did not know anything about it, but you were in a hurry to jump into conclusions... wasn't that emotions on your part?

Which part of upeksha does that fall into?

Upeksha not toward what happens outside. what stimulated inside. So that you act only because you know that is harmful.. Not out of that emotion.
If you see somthing wrong or harmful still you don't feel that it is wrong that is Moha-ignorance.. you ignore it.
Even Buddha talked about wrong acts.. Dhammapada is full of them.

This is what we are asking... what exactly do you find in this forum? If anyone read all the replies and especially the threads that you have been creating it not would require a rocket scientist to understand that you have always criticized govt., your pun almost 99% of the time I would say directed towards govt. or Army!

Which part of upeksha does that fall into?

Same as previous...

So you did seize the moment to stir the pot?

I don't know what you really mean..which moment

Dont you go back on your word now.. we came to this conclusion because you mentioned "Its good... So I respect and grateful for the part that he finished"

So were you lying earlier or are you lying now?

Till he did it I didn't believe he would do that... I wrote with that belief then.
Not that he couldn't finish...I believe he could finish it earlier and I thought he would prolong war.
I think he tried to but western countries pressurised him. Thats how I see it.

If people are mixture of both.. again... why worry? You know people are a mixture of both then this should not be a big surprise for you!

Awareness of them, their actions, words... changes..
Knowledge never becomes 100%.
I actually don't worry..
But I watch... and learn more and more about them and about myself... My life with others greatly improved bu Elakiri life..(Thank you all who intervene and read my threads..and Elakiri staff, and owners)

Lets also take your theory here again... doing something wrong does not make one bad.. are you willing to apply that theory to Mahinda too? and also to SL Army?

Why not...? To everyone...

Going Off Road now... bring back your 4x4 to the highway please :lol
The question I asked was.. If I'm not mistaken, you suspected that Army will ever finish the job in the first place, what happened to those suspicions?

You answer should have been "Sorry... I was wrong", why? because you are wrong... Army finished their JOB in grand style!

As I said I usually think Army as an extension of the Govt.. not an individual force. So my suspicions were not about Army.. on the Govt. and I don't have to say Sorry, because they were not conclusions..

So no one can fully believe you on what you say! You maybe wrong!

Thanx for admitting!

Buddha does not want us to believe even his teachings which come to us second hand. He want us to test and understand.
I don't believe in anyone...
So I don't expect anyone to believe in anything I say or others say..
But I wish they would think and try to measure the points.

Ok so you were happy when your child was born as I understand from this post... the question I want to ask is from the next section.. so your answer is YES!
There you go!! If you were happy because it is the joy that's being *inbuilt* to your system.... WHY CAN'T OTHERS BE HAPPY RIGHT NOW FOR THE SAME REASON?

I didn't say that one should not be happy. I am happy that LTTE was over for some reason. Others too can be happy for their own reasons.

People are patriotic they love their country, that's inbuilt from the childhood... just like you've experienced a joy, why is it so hard for you to understand they do as well

I am not against those emotions or qualities.. What I point out is misusing, exploiting of them.. like Wimal Weerawansha's Deshapremaya..

In the context of WAR and politics if I ask you what is the Ultimate truth and what is the conventional truth will you able to explain?

There are many aspects.. some example...
Conventionally killing in war by Army is right and killing by Terrorsts is wrong. Ultimately killing is a bad karma.
Conventionally Politicians who can win hearts of people would gain power. Ultimately Politicians who deceive people and exploite country, commit a bad karma.

But how come knowing all this... your so called *awareness* is always anti-govt?

Perhaps because you are Pro-Govt...
If you see something wrong with me, no matter your attitude toward me you will be called Anti-Atula.
My concern is the people out there who suffer with all this.. War, price hikes, Corruption... I want to know the tendency of people about other people..because I can't do anything.. When how ignorant people about their own misfortuns my burden becomes less.
That concern may be a natural tendency.. I had it from childhood, very early in my life.

In truth, Govt is Anti people, so I look like Anti-Govt.

How come your *awareness* always talk negative?[/quote]I am aware of both.. two polarities of life. Because, negative side is what you mostly miss and mostly iignore... You want only positive... This question is the proof.
And that is the major problem others have with me.

Your *awareness* as everybody can see... is politically biased!! Is that how *awareness* suppose to be?[/quote]
Actually no...
When you talk on conventional level for one thing there are hundred ways to define, or respond, or criticize... So you can't make everybody happy. I think you are, so you see others are...
You have concluded that Anti-Govt=UNP... But I am not inclined toward current UNP. I really have liked only 3 Sinhalese politicians. D.S.Senanayaka for his strong, leadership.. From my point of view he is the last real leader we had. Dudely Senanayaka for his kindness and lack of attachment for power. I believe he maintained the leadership with the natural tendency. And Lalith Athulathmudaly for his inteligence and lack of the political qualities..
I liked Premadas and Mahinda both till they become prime ministers and lost trust watching how did they behave.

 

[sri_lion]

Upeksha not toward what happens outside. what stimulated inside. So that you act only because you know that is harmful.. Not out of that emotion.
If you see somthing wrong or harmful still you don't feel that it is wrong that is Moha-ignorance.. you ignore it.
Even Buddha talked about wrong acts.. Dhammapada is full of them.

Athula I dont think you are getting what the Upeksha really means here, the way you have acted especially within the past 48 hours is very distant from what your lectures trying to depict here!

You still deny that you have been acting funny from the moment there were rumors going on that the "WAR ended", as if you are trying to enforce something into people's mind set, you are jumping into conclusions......

I HIGHLY DOUBT THIS IS HOW A PERSON WITH UPEKSHA WOULD BEHAVE!!

Upeksha means the being neutral being even and not getting carried away by things.. I'll be honest with you, I can't do that... definitely not 100%, its not an easy thing to do when you are bonded by many attachments in the path of life we chose to live!

Many people chose not to get carried away by the situation although we saw a lot of threads in EK beforehand, many people eagerly waited to see what happens before commenting blindly and jumping into dumb conclusions...

Those people however had more "Upeksha" than you, you couldn't take it you were clearly disturbed so much so you did or did not realize that you were actually spamming and flooding the board with same thread over and over again....

Where were your awareness and upeksha?

I don't know what you really mean..which moment

Scroll down to the reply where I have given an example with a link!

Till he did it I didn't believe he would do that... I wrote with that belief then.
Not that he couldn't finish...I believe he could finish it earlier and I thought he would prolong war.
I think he tried to but western countries pressurised him. Thats how I see it.

Aha! you did not believe that he would finish the WAR then, now you are grateful to him... so at that time your *awareness* has deceived you!

Majority of the people in this forum believed that he could, so while you giving us lectures about the so called *awareness* school kids of this forum at least in this incident had more *awareness* on the matter then you do!

So there's a lesson for you to learn, your *awareness* was blinded by something, now its time for you to find out... by what? if you really care you'll look into what I'm saying here.. its just plain simple!

Awareness of them, their actions, words... changes..
Knowledge never becomes 100%.
I actually don't worry..
But I watch... and learn more and more about them and about myself... My life with others greatly improved bu Elakiri life..(Thank you all who intervene and read my threads..and Elakiri staff, and owners)

So does other's!

Why not...? To everyone...

GREAT!!! I'll remember that one.. and you too will have to remember here after because I will refer to this conversation, its not gonna go anywhere any sooner!

As I said I usually think Army as an extension of the Govt.. not an individual force. So my suspicions were not about Army.. on the Govt. and I don't have to say Sorry, because they were not conclusions..

And were you expecting the Army to function without a govt.?

And if Sri Lanka ever function under a Military govt. do you expect to see a perfect govt.?

Once you posted something like this "Soldiers had killed more than 2,800 civilians", actually when you read the report the actual heading reads like this "Sri Lanka rejects U.N. allegations on civilian deaths"

You being as sarcastic as ever.. took a part from where it says "Sri Lanka's government rejected on Saturday U.N. allegations that soldiers had killed more than 2,800 civilians"

What were you expecting from these? is this the awareness and upeksha you talk about? Is this upeksha at all?

BTW here's the link if you've forgotten http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160300

Buddha does not want us to believe even his teachings which come to us second hand. He want us to test and understand.
I don't believe in anyone...
So I don't expect anyone to believe in anything I say or others say..
But I wish they would think and try to measure the points.

I dont know why you dragging Buddha into the conversation!

Anyway I'm referring to the highlighted part of your reply... just as much you urge people to measure thier points before making a statement I urge you to do the same.. this is a comment made by you only a few weeks ago!

Yuddhe iwara wenna, onna menna...
(for so long..)
and how long?
Only God knows...

Did you measure all points before making this comment?

I didn't say that one should not be happy. I am happy that LTTE was over for some reason. Others too can be happy for their own reasons.

HAHAHA YES!! then what's the point of asking them "lets see how long it will last?", you know the true nature of it... but you are just trying to be cheeky, that's the only conclusion here!

I am not against those emotions or qualities.. What I point out is misusing, exploiting of them.. like Wimal Weerawansha's Deshapremaya..

Aha! now why are you trying to discriminate Wimal Weerawansha followers?

Remember what you said few lines before (have a glance now) you said

Buddha does not want us to believe even his teachings which come to us second hand. He want us to test and understand.

So how do you know?... these people whom follow Wimal must trying out to understand first, you are now jumping into conclusions about them saying he exploits people's emotions.. why not give them a chance.. you have to... because you said it!

There are many aspects.. some example...
Conventionally killing in war by Army is right and killing by Terrorsts is wrong. Ultimately killing is a bad karma.
Conventionally Politicians who can win hearts of people would gain power. Ultimately Politicians who deceive people and exploite country, commit a bad karma.

So this will apply to other things too the same way!

Conventionally people will be happy about killing a group of terrorists but ultimately the real situation is they are only celebrating the death of another human being!

But it is the conventional way of life we chose to live, why are you trying apply the ultimate laws here? this is where you show people a circle and a square it just does not fit, not even for you, I hope you understand that much!

Perhaps because you are Pro-Govt...
If you see something wrong with me, no matter your attitude toward me you will be called Anti-Atula.
My concern is the people out there who suffer with all this.. War, price hikes, Corruption... I want to know the tendency of people about other people..because I can't do anything.. When how ignorant people about their own misfortuns my burden becomes less.
That concern may be a natural tendency.. I had it from childhood, very early in my life.

Yes I'm pro-govt. I'm not scared to say it and everybody knows it!

But I don't support everything they do, if you ask me, I prefer this govt. 90% because I believed this is the ONLY govt. which could make a stand against this long running problem... today.. I'm honestly happy knowing I was infact right!!

You classified people as mis fortunate because they elected a govt. of corruptions, price hikes and war? well here's news for you.... ALL THESE WERE ISSUES WITH OTHER GOVTS TOO, AND FROM TODAY YOU CAN TAKE OUT WAR FROM THE LIST!

So I'd say people are more fortunate next month than they were ever before!

In truth, Govt is Anti people, so I look like Anti-Govt.

I am aware of both.. two polarities of life. Because, negative side is what you mostly miss and mostly iignore... You want only positive... This question is the proof.
And that is the major problem others have with me.

This answer is proof about your biasness, why do you talk about me.. maybe I'm not an expert in being as neutral as you... but you should not care whether its negative or positive, if you were really neutral you should have given chance for both!

YOU DID NOT!!

Actually no...
When you talk on conventional level for one thing there are hundred ways to define, or respond, or criticize... So you can't make everybody happy. I think you are, so you see others are...
You have concluded that Anti-Govt=UNP... But I am not inclined toward current UNP. I really have liked only 3 Sinhalese politicians. D.S.Senanayaka for his strong, leadership.. From my point of view he is the last real leader we had. Dudely Senanayaka for his kindness and lack of attachment for power. I believe he maintained the leadership with the natural tendency. And Lalith Athulathmudaly for his inteligence and lack of the political qualities..
I liked Premadas and Mahinda both till they become prime ministers and lost trust watching how did they behave.

I dont know how does this reply answers this statement that I made!

Your *awareness* as everybody can see... is politically biased!! Is that how *awareness* suppose to be?

I can't read your mind on how neutral you are on issues, but I can judge from what you do... lets leave this to the EK members to answer where you stand!

And I bet they know well