I am a buddhist but not coz my Birth certificate say so,

[kalyanamithra]

So to follow properly, the four noble truths must be followed! But as to the four noble truths to remove desire we must have a desire! And as to the eight fold path a desire can only be removed by having a desire to follow the eight fold path!

Pinwath mithurani,

Yes it is through developing Chandha (desire), Chittha (intention), Viriya (endeavor) and Vimansa (examining with mind) to Attain Nibbana; to follow the Path that one ends all desires...

How could one change the current status; and break away from the samsara without a desire to do so? an intention to do so? an endeavor to do so? without investigating/examining how to do so?

A contradiction in Dhamma? No, although one may feel so at first glance...

Consider these examples...

1.)
There's a crown prince who yerns to be the king; he does every thing to achieve this goal... endeavors in every way to achieve it...
And one day he becomes the king...
What will happen to the desire he had to be the king? the intention he had to be the king? the endeavor he had to be the king? etc.
He will no longer have them; because what gave rise to this desire, intention, endeavor will no longer be in him...

2.)
There's a knowledgeable monk residing near top of a hill... A person hears of him and decides to meet him to get some problems clarified...
Because of the desire, the strong intention, the endeavor, etc. he somehow complete the trek and reaches the monk's abode; meets the monk...
What will happen at this point to the desire? intention? etc he had...

This is why using Dhamma to escape from Samsara is paralleled to crossing a river with a raft... A person uses it to cross the river; and lets it go once he reaches the other side. He who crossed the river won't/shouldn't cling to that raft...

So having desire to escape from the samsara is good... the desire will cease to exsit at proper time, if we follow the proper Path...

[These examples were adapted from similar instances mentioned in the Suttas]

Theruwan saranai!

 

[jess]

Birth certificate eke mona deyak thibunath, yam kisi kenek atta theru argena ita anuwa jeewithe pawatwanawanam Eya thamai sreshta wenne...!

i tireid to get that but i cannot undestand.... im rusty on my sinhala cuz no one to teach me

 

[pink_lime1]

i really like buddhism because it makes scence to alot of answers ..

 

[Zeus]

i tireid to get that but i cannot undestand.... im rusty on my sinhala cuz no one to teach me

Looks like u r burger or something(someone) doesn't matter v r talking about Buddhism

U can also search 4 it
More than sri lankan there many Europeans who curious to know the scientific sections of it
Coz th've been tired about hearing invisible god and semons all they wanted to know is logical things

I'm sorry sinhala cannot be learnt by forums
So .......

 

[Kira007]

good topic...

 

[yohantha]

Very true.
Budu sasuna babalewa

 

[sherlock]

budda darshanaya denagena wedak ne aka pilipadinne nethnam

 

[Anusha]

My understanding is, Buddhism is common sense, humanity and fairness in life. But then again, most religions are. How each religion describes them are different though.

The deep of Buddhism is only important to people who want to go deep into the truth of life.

 

[kalyanamithra]

My understanding is, Buddhism is common sense, humanity and fairness in life. But then again, most religions are. How each religion describes them are different though.

The deep of Buddhism is only important to people who want to go deep into the truth of life.

Pinwath mithura,

Dhamma (the Doctrine preached by the Buddha) is not common sense (only at surface level it's common sense)...
According to Dhamma, our minds have the roots (origin) in Avijja (ignorance); so common sense we have is based on Avijja...
And it's Dhamma that guides one along a Path that irradiates Avijja....
As you have well said only those following Dhamma will make use of it...

Theruwan saranai!

 

[sboy]

Hik........hi
Buddhagama danna ayanam godak inna bawa penawa, but practice karana ayanam hoyanna ne.............Budu hamuduruwange namayen minissu maranna, gewal ginithiyanna polambawana aya thamai wediyenma inne...............Danno danithi........den methentath ey pora talk deegena!!!!

mama nam hamuduru kenek neme....mama nikan kollek.....mama essara buddhist practical kala....bhawana kala....mage O/L walata niyama help ekak labuna Bhawana wen.....mage kella mata banneth " Upasaka balla " kiyala...h ah aaahahaha

 

[Zeus]

My understanding is, Buddhism is common sense, humanity and fairness in life. But then again, most religions are. How each religion describes them are different though.

The deep of Buddhism is only important to people who want to go deep into the truth of life.

100% true
Buddhism thiyenne honda gvithayak gatha karanna vitharak nevei eka anek agamvalinuth puluvan(xcept 1 religion)

Adyathmika diyunuvakuth labagena lokaye darmathavan therumganna puluvan budhhism valin
(namuth buddhism valin vitharak kiayala mama kiyanne na)

 

[jess]

Looks like u r burger or something(someone) doesn't matter v r talking about Buddhism

U can also search 4 it
More than sri lankan there many Europeans who curious to know the scientific sections of it
Coz th've been tired about hearing invisible god and semons all they wanted to know is logical things

I'm sorry sinhala cannot be learnt by forums
So .......

nope im not a burger, im a white american, and the sinhala that i do know i learned thru chat room and club lk..... i guess im just a good learner

 

[Zeus]

nope im not a burger, im a white american, and the sinhala that i do know i learned thru chat room and club lk..... i guess im just a good learner

wow
in america also there's a university called Harvard
ithere's a section to the buddhism

anyway u r a good learner no doubt
cz u managed to find ma post(may be cz of my colored letters) in this thread wich i replied u
keep it up
good luck
i'(we)ll help u as much as i(we ) can
and my English knowledge also weak

 

[Anusha]

Pinwath mithura,

Dhamma (the Doctrine preached by the Buddha) is not common sense (only at surface level it's common sense)...
According to Dhamma, our minds have the roots (origin) in Avijja (ignorance); so common sense we have is based on Avijja...
And it's Dhamma that guides one along a Path that irradiates Avijja....
As you have well said only those following Dhamma will make use of it...

Theruwan saranai!

I wasn't talking about deep down Buddhism.

 

[jess]

wow
in america also there's a university called Harvard
ithere's a section to the buddhism

anyway u r a good learner no doubt
cz u managed to find ma post(may be cz of my colored letters) in this thread wich i replied u
keep it up
good luck
i'(we)ll help u as much as i(we ) can
and my English knowledge also weak

yah harvard is here, and there are also alot of americans that are buddhist. i know a bit about buddhism, my hubby is buddhist. but i didint know that the religion is on the birth certificates. its not like that here. im from a southern state where religion isnt a big deal but since i came to new york city if u visit the hospital they ask ur religion which was strange to me. sorry if its off topic. i find buddhism very interesting, i also go to the buddhist temple, and also since im a christian, i want to give my children choice of which religion they want to follow. and i do want them to know about both sides since wat i do know about buddhism is very similar to my beleifs as well.


thanks for helping me with the sinhala. its a pretty easy language to learn, but i stopped going to clublk and chat rooms so i just know from wat i hear everyone talking around me. and ur english is not bad


wat i was wondering, does it actually say that ur buddhist on the birth certificate or it ust goes by the last name?? cuz i know there are buddhist last names (like mine) or catholic last names like "perera" tho i know it dont always turn out that way?

 

[~dean~]

very true..

 

[daddyimmo]

Not sure!

You can correct me! if it is not clear!

Yes! It is through developing Chandha (desire), Chittha (intention), Viriya (endeavor) and Vimansa (examining with mind) to Attain Nibbana; to follow the Path that one ends all desires...

First the person must have the intention before anything otherwise he doesn’t know then where he is going! After the motivation to achieve it, the desire to succeed the achievement, the urge to achieve it and the endeavor to achieve it!

Look Siddhartha Gautama who was the lord Buddha! How he was motivated to leave the palace and go and find the solution for what you want to achieve?

During his prince time he was blessed with food and shelter, he was blessed with love and social relationships, he had respect from others! After all he felt there is something more in life to achieve by been motivated after looking at the four things i.e. an old man, a sick man, a diseased man and a dead man and had the intention to leave the palace! From there the story goes on!

How could one change the current status; and break away from the samsara without a desire to do so? An intention to do so? An endeavor to do so? Without investigating/examining how to do so

That is where the point is! Who will want to have the intention first to remove all his desire to follow the eight fold path? Will you ever do it? But you will say yes!

The first principal of the four noble truths is that there is misery and suffering! But for some there is no unhappiness and no suffering in life for some there is unhappiness and suffering in life! So who will want to follow the second principal of the four noble truths? To remove it one then must follow the eight fold paths! Then one must have the intention first to follow the eight fold paths and have the desire right?

A contradiction in Dharma? No, although one may feel so at first glance...

Consider these examples...

1.)
There's a crown prince who yearns to be the king; he does every thing to achieve this goal... endeavors in every way to achieve it...
And one day he becomes the king...
What will happen to the desire he had to be the king? The intention he had to be the king? The endeavor he had to be the king? Etc.
He will no longer have them; because what gave rise to this desire, intention, and endeavor will no longer be in him...

Without a goal (intention) you can’t achieve anything! Did the king have a goal to achieve it? But it says he yearns to achieve it! So then he is going where without a purpose! After achieving it what is the purpose now he has? There is nothing because he didn’t realize it earlier! At least he was not guided!

2.)
There's a knowledgeable monk residing near top of a hill... A person hears of him and decides to meet him to get some problems clarified...
Because of the desire, the strong intention, the endeavor, etc. he somehow complete the trek and reaches the monk's abode; meets the monk...
What will happen at this point to the desire? Intention? Etc he had...

This is why using Dharma to escape from Samsara is paralleled to crossing a river with a raft... A person uses it to cross the river; and lets it go once he reaches the other side. He who crossed the river won't/shouldn't cling to that raft...

So having desire to escape from the samsara is good... the desire will cease to exist at proper time, if we follow the proper Path...

To meet the monk, he did it so as he has the intention to do so! It doesn’t mean without a purpose he did it so!

But one thing to clarify the problem he went to meet the monk! Also as another option he would have clarify the problem it alone or else meet another guide! And in here it is the same you have the intention or purpose to do so!

In life there are many ways to avoid unhappiness and sorrows! The difference is that they want everything to be perfect away from misery and suffering!

 

[dahami]

Apita anith aya hadanna be essalla apihenna oni.Ekaparata nivan dakinna newei mama kiyane.Meshshara dawasak api darmaya gena hithuwe nethi nam then podda ppodda hithmu.

Very good... and good topic...

 

[Anusha]

Very good... and good topic...

LOL. Say something more, and do some justice to you name

 

[GNS]

LOL. Say something more, and do some justice to you name

LOL