I am a buddhist but not coz my Birth certificate say so,

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    daddyimmo said:

    First the person must have the intention before anything otherwise he doesn’t know then where he is going! After the motivation to achieve it, the desire to succeed the achievement, the urge to achieve it and the endeavor to achieve it!

    Look Siddhartha Gautama who was the lord Buddha! How he was motivated to leave the palace and go and find the solution for what you want to achieve?

    During his prince time he was blessed with food and shelter, he was blessed with love and social relationships, he had respect from others! After all he felt there is something more in life to achieve by been motivated after looking at the four things i.e. an old man, a sick man, a diseased man and a dead man and had the intention to leave the palace! From there the story goes on!


    Pinwath mithura,

    We are followers; trying to complete the Path uncovered by the Buddha. So what we are doing cannot be paralleled to what the Buddha did (Buddha had to discover a Path; we do not have to)...

    In the Path; most difficult part is entering it (e.g. becoming a stream entrant); what one gains in the Path is not reversible; so there's no urge to complete it this life...
    That's why there are lay disciples in Buddha Sashana... They follow the Path amongst day-to-day work; while spending a household life... It's possible; because despite living a lay life they are in a Path that ends the Samsara...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

    Zeus

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    jess said:
    yah harvard is here, and there are also alot of americans that are buddhist. i know a bit about buddhism,
    But i can bet their understandability is better than sri lankan buddhists

    and Lord buddha also said dont belive anything bcz of ur parent or teacher said
    or written ina book
    he said to think urself
    and he said to his folower
    "enna(come) balanna(hear) hondanam(if its god) piliganna(then agree)

    my hubby is buddhist.
    oh i got the pic u r interesting in not only him
    but also his religion :lol::lol::D


    but i didint know that the religion is on the birth certificates.
    i think now religion and national also removed from the b .c

    i
    ts not like that here. im from a southern state where religion isnt a big deal but since i came to new york city if u visit the hospital they ask ur religion which was strange to me.
    what i never thought
    now i have doubts is new york in america:eek:


    may be all they wanted to know whether u r a islamic or not
    (u know what i mean)

    sorry if its off topic
    its a'right
    there lot of spam kings:D

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    i find buddhism very interesting, i also go to the buddhist temple, and also since im a christian, i want to give my children choice of which religion they want to follow.
    akkiyo (means sis in sinhala) there's a practical prob
    cz can a small chil can understand a religion:eek:
    as ex-
    In buddhism there's very complex theory
    • HEthupala dahama( sorry i dont know the eng word)
    Hethu- reason
    pala- results
    dahama- theory or somthing
    • pattichcha samuppada
    and i do want them to know about both sides

    hmmm that's a good solution:yes::yes:

    buddhism is very similar to my beleifs as well.
    100% true
    but akke remember 1 thing
    Buddhism is not only 4 make a good person:yes: it has many more
    budu dahame ekama aramuna(aim eka) loka swabavaya andunagena minisun duk vindina eken midaveema
    Akke its easy to think(pple always like to think) that there's a god who can look after us
    ekai api nodann adeval gods lage nirmana kiyala hithala amtaka karala danne (actually its easy)
    but buddhism realizes us that man is more powerful than god:yes:
    think akke
    buddhism is the only religion that has'nt any god and give all power to the man


    and also Lord buddha said that he is not a god and just a guid even(his appearence) he has many chances to be a god
    and also Lord buddha said about the formation of the univers 2500 ago and scientist also prooved it now(there many more like that)


    wat i was wondering, does it actually say that ur buddhist on the birth certificate or it ust goes by the last name?? cuz i know there are buddhist last names (like mine) or catholic last names like "perera" tho i know it dont always turn out that way?
    no no akkiyo its not
    and it shouldnt
    :yes::yes::yes:

    and contact kalyanamithra his eng knowledge also good
    he will surely help u
     
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    kalyanamithra

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    daddyimmo said:

    That is where the point is! Who will want to have the intention first to remove all his desire to follow the eight fold path? Will you ever do it? But you will say yes!

    Pinwath mithura,

    What we pursue is different from what you seek... that's why the differences of views... It's reasonable for you to think Dhamma is not practicable... :)

    There are many trying to enter the Path and perhaps in the Path...

    I do not want/expect you to believe me...
    - because you are asking not to learn anything
    - because I do not want to convince you anything...
    - because your believing it or not does not make any difference to those practicing Dhamma...

    Your question (that I've quoted above) is pointless (when looked at from our point of view)... perhaps you may have heard something in Dhamma called "selflessness"... I do not know if you ever tried to find out what that is...

    "one" cannot "remove all his desire" - because what you call "one" (or what "we" call "self", "I", "me") is there because reasons that needed to ...
    It continue to exist as long as the required reasons are there... It will cease to exist when the reasons are not there...
    When "one" practices Dhamma "his"/"her" actions cripples the way those reasons develops... because of which the existence ceases at some point...

    ["I" have used (in above few lines) the words that "we" use to denote what "we" perceive as "self" within double quotes]

    I do not want to explain why we choose to terminate the existence; without thinking of eternal life with nothing but happiness... because I do not want to compare Dhamma with what you believe in.

    Thanks anyway for the comments...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

    kalyanamithra

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    Zeus said:
    But i can bet their understandability is better than sri lankan buddhists

    Pinwath mithura,

    Buddhism as being spread in west is not as good as you think :)
    True, it's appealing to many westerners...

    And westerners are not as smart as you may think...
    I personally see Sri Lankans are in the best position to follow the Path...

    I know this a little because I am also in that region...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

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    Zeus said:
    But i can bet their understandability is better than sri lankan buddhists

    and Lord buddha also said dont belive anything bcz of ur parent or teacher said
    or written ina book
    he said to think urself
    and he said to his folower
    "enna(come) balanna(hear) hondanam(if its god) piliganna(then agree)


    oh i got the pic u r interesting in not only him
    but also his religion :lol::lol::D



    i think now religion and national also removed from the b .c

    i
    what i never thought
    now i have doubts is new york in america:eek:


    may be all they wanted to know whether u r a islamic or not
    (u know what i mean)


    its a'right
    there lot of spam kings:D

    .

    akkiyo (means sis in sinhala) there's a practical prob
    cz can a small chil can understand a religion:eek:
    as ex-
    In buddhism there's very complex theory
    • HEthupala dahama( sorry i dont know the eng word)
    Hethu- reason
    pala- results
    dahama- theory or somthing
    • pattichcha samuppada

    hmmm that's a good solution:yes::yes:


    100% true
    but akke remember 1 thing
    Buddhism is not only 4 make a good person:yes: it has many more
    budu dahame ekama aramuna(aim eka) loka swabavaya andunagena minisun duk vindina eken midaveema
    Akke its easy to think(pple always like to think) that there's a god who can look after us
    ekai api nodann adeval gods lage nirmana kiyala hithala amtaka karala danne (actually its easy)
    but buddhism realizes us that man is more powerful than god:yes:
    think akke
    buddhism is the only religion that has'nt any god and give all power to the man


    and also Lord buddha said that he is not a god and just a guid even(his appearence) he has many chances to be a god
    and also Lord buddha said about the formation of the univers 2500 ago and scientist also prooved it now(there many more like that)



    no no akkiyo its not
    and it shouldnt
    :yes::yes::yes:

    and contact kalyanamithra his eng knowledge also good
    he will surely help u



    u saw my husbands pic??? hows that?? thanks for ur long reply. lol. i understand wat ur saying for sure, thanks for breakin it down for me.
     

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    kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithura,

    Buddhism as being spread in west is not as good as you think :)
    True, it's appealing to many westerners...

    And westerners are not as smart as you may think...
    I personally see Sri Lankans are in the best position to follow the Path...

    I know this a little because I am also in that region...

    Theruwan saranai!



    its not that we are not smart, its buddhism didnt orginate here. the majority of people here are catholic or christian, so i have never been introduced to any other religion until i came to new york city and i find it very interesting to learn not only about buddhism but also about hinduism, islam,judaism, and if buddhism is anything like christianity where it has so many different name evangelical, baptist, methodist, episcopal and so on and so on, then it would be really hard for westerners to understand, b.c even tho those are a part of christianity and they beleive basically the same things, each branch has diffeent ways in worshipping. i dunno if chinese buddhism is any different then sri lankan buddhism, i know the buddhas look different.

    so if more people understood buddhism like i have come to know, where im from everyone is old fashioned and are not interested in any religion that worships statues since in christianity we call worshipping an idol, which they do in hinduism, i have explained to all of my family that buddhism is NOT a religion it is a philosophy, just like malli said above that buddha said something like hes not a god hes a guide.

    anyway, we are all human beings and no matter wat religion we all bleed just the same. we all gonna die someday no matter wat we beleive.
     

    kalyanamithra

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    jess said:
    its not that we are not smart, its buddhism didnt orginate here

    Dear friend,

    I did not mean to belittle people in the west by saying "westerners are not as smart as you may think".

    I was only commenting the statement "But i can bet their understandability is better than sri lankan buddhists" which (as I felt) reflects the backward mentality many Sri Lankans have.

    Despite Buddhist heritage Sri Lankans have there are many Sri Lankans awaiting without practising Dhamma (i.e. the Doctriene) till some one from west justify it. I guess our friend Zeus is not like that; still I thought higlighting that would be benificial for many...

    Theruwan saranai!
    (May the Blessings of the Triple Gem be with You!)
     

    kalyanamithra

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    jess said:
    i dunno if chinese buddhism is any different then sri lankan buddhism, i know the buddhas look different.

    Yes, there's a difference although there are many things in common...

    The difference may/need not be apparent to many in the west; probably because what Buddhism presents is different from the other faiths'...

    However those of us in Sri Lanka need to be aware of the differences, because it matters at the level we practice... That's why we highlight these points in discussions in EK...

    Theruwan saranai!
     

    Zeus

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    kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithura,

    Buddhism as being spread in west is not as good as you think :)
    True, it's appealing to many westerners...

    And westerners are not as smart as you may think...
    I personally see Sri Lankans are in the best position to follow the Path...

    I know this a little because I am also in that region...

    Theruwan saranai!

    egollo buddhism vala enne e gana pahadilane
    so egollo budhhism gana honda avabodayakin neveida inne:eek:
    anyway u cant be wrong but tell me the reasons:yes: