Is wife beating and gender discrimination allowed in quran

ChuttaFX

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sirajstc said:
yes weradi kara nam beat karanawa Qurhan eke kiyala dunna widhita yy any prob:P :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Oh shit !!! :frown: u r not like as u were before.
how worse this is. my all respect for u & ur qurhan has gone coz of ur words. :dull:
no need of a religion, can't u see that everyone should respect his wife, his lover?

however i'm happy to see that u r answering without skipping questions at last. but now u r too late. u r banned. u got many chances to be good & rock on community. but u wasn't lucky (ur god didn't help u) anyway try to live happily without making problems wherever u live. :confused:
 

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KHz said:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
You'll have to say it Nah????Coz You can't tell you haven't got any answer


U f Fool.. I already submitted my clear answer with the proofs.. U fools never undersatnd coz... u all dnt want 2 knew those answers for that.. all u need to insult Islam & his teachings.... so... dats all ...
 
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ChuttaFX said:

how worse this is. my all respect for u & ur qurhan has gone coz of ur words. :dull:


Brother Ekkenek Dennek Kiyana karana deywal walin Mulu aagama Jathiyama maninakenek wena gana yata watenna eppa oyath.. :yes:

no need of a religion, can't u see that everyone should respect his wife, his lover?

meykata mama danmama reply karanna kamathinaha.. a'kata mata dan wela naha mama office eke inney.. oya madyasthawa mama kiyana dey Ahanna lahasthinam mama ready to reply karanna oyatage mathayata...sorry bro mata dan A'ka dan kara ganna widiyak naha office eke nisaa.. :yes::cool:
(ur god didn't help u)wherever u live. :confused:

waradi oya dakapu widiya sampoornayenma waradi.. oyata kiyanna thibuney oyage god help kare naha ney oyata.. mokada (oyalage mathaya anuwa siraj EK eke waradi karayek ehemaney)so Eyage god help kare EK ekata eyawa ban karalaa.. Deviyan kiyannney karuwa pennana kenek ney so EK ekatai hondak kare.. mehema kiyannath puluwanneyda bro... :yes::yes::D;):cool:

meyka hariyata bageta arapu dora bageta wahala kiyanawa wage wadak..



~peace~
 

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KHz said:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
You'll have to say it Nah????Coz You can't tell you haven't got any answer


U f.... Fool.. I already submitted my clear answer with the proofs.. U fools never undersatnd coz... u all dnt want 2 knew those answers for that.. all u need to insult Islam & his teachings.... so... dats all ...
 

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gazaly said:
Brother Ekkenek Dennek Kiyana karana deywal walin Mulu aagama Jathiyama maninakenek wena gana yata watenna eppa oyath.. :yes:
mama kiwwe eyage qurhan1 gana, original1 gana neme. that's why i said "u & ur qurhan" kiyala. :D
gazaly said:
meykata mama danmama reply karanna kamathinaha.. a'kata mata dan wela naha mama office eke inney.. oya madyasthawa mama kiyana dey Ahanna lahasthinam mama ready to reply karanna oyatage mathayata...sorry bro mata dan A'ka dan kara ganna widiyak naha office eke nisaa.. :yes::cool:
awlak na machan ona welawaka reply1k danna. habai thamange wifeta gahana1 nam anumatha karanna baa buddhist unath islam unath catholic unath.
gazaly said:
waradi oya dakapu widiya sampoornayenma waradi.. oyata kiyanna thibuney oyage god help kare naha ney oyata.. mokada (oyalage mathaya anuwa siraj EK eke waradi karayek ehemaney)so Eyage god help kare EK ekata eyawa ban karalaa.. Deviyan kiyannney karuwa pennana kenek ney so EK ekatai hondak kare.. mehema kiyannath puluwanneyda bro... :yes::yes::D;):cool:

meyka hariyata bageta arapu dora bageta wahala kiyanawa wage wadak..

ekath hari. :yes: mage view1ta anuwa mama creator-concept1 piliganne nathi unata, mama dannawa waradi wada karana ayata kawruth udaw karanne na kiyala. mata duka eya ara army1 gana katha karala thiyana widiha. :( mama hithuwe na eya ehema ithana kenek kiyala. mama hithuwe eya thamange agama gana kiyala denawa kiyala witharai.
 

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casper_fms said:
U f.... Fool.. I already submitted my clear answer with the proofs.. U fools never undersatnd coz... u all dnt want 2 knew those answers for that.. all u need to insult Islam & his teachings.... so... dats all ...

There's no need for anyone to Insult Islam, some verses in Islam itself is an insult to Islam!!

Aren't you the one who posted a thread about what will happen to people whom will not follow Allah's way? Do you remember what you posted? I sure do... you were kind enough to explain all the torture that Allah will give to non-Muslims on the judgment day!!

Did you or did you not posted something like that? So you as a Muslim while accepting such torture to non-Muslims, still you expect non-Muslims to respect Islam?
 

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sri_lion said:
There's no need for anyone to Insult Islam, some verses in Islam itself is an insult to Islam!!

Aren't you the one who posted a thread about what will happen to people whom will not follow Allah's way? Do you remember what you posted? I sure do... you were kind enough to explain all the torture that Allah will give to non-Muslims on the judgment day!!

Did you or did you not posted something like that? So you as a Muslim while accepting such torture to non-Muslims, still you expect non-Muslims to respect Islam?

Lion.....can i asdk u a simple question.....I see u are devout buddhist....wot stopped you from being mahana and attaining nibbana??:D
 

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sri_lion said:
There's no need for anyone to Insult Islam, some verses in Islam itself is an insult to Islam!!

Aren't you the one who posted a thread about what will happen to people whom will not follow Allah's way? Do you remember what you posted? I sure do... you were kind enough to explain all the torture that Allah will give to non-Muslims on the judgment day!!

Did you or did you not posted something like that? So you as a Muslim while accepting such torture to non-Muslims, still you expect non-Muslims to respect Islam?

Some muslim people on EK (include saraj) have said me that most of them r from fake qurhans. But most of they post here r unacceptable. So that, many of them don't know islam well. That's why they post fake stuff. If these people who know islam well, then it's a fault of qurhan. Which one would be right?
 

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Idi Amin said:
Lion.....can i asdk u a simple question.....I see u are devout buddhist....wot stopped you from being mahana and attaining nibbana??:D

I have a lot of respect for Buddhism, but before being a Buddhist I'm a human being, and a Sri Lankan... so I'm not a 100% True Buddhist, but that doesn't stop me from admiring Buddhism for what it is, it seems the most logical religion of all, there's no doubt about it!

To answer your question, Nibbana is not a state that you can archieve overnight its a process of many many many years as told by Lord Buddha, so we are all.. whether we like it or not is in the journey, sooner or later we will choose to enter the path and dedicate ourselves to it... the people whom decided that way are the ones whom you see now as monks, so my time will come like them one fine day I'll understand the nature of things and commit myself to the middle path!

My life is not over yet, so I may or may not commit myself in this life time who knows only time will tell!
 

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ChuttaFX said:
Some muslim people on EK (include saraj) have said me that most of them r from fake qurhans. But most of they post here r unacceptable. So that, many of them don't know islam well. That's why they post fake stuff. If these people who know islam well, then it's a fault of qurhan. Which one would be right?

This Dilemma is actually created by the Q'ran itself!

While Q'ran says wife beating is OK, people know from deep down it is not OK!

But they are not allowed to go beyond Q'ran since they are suppose to fear ALLAH! Thus trying to make lame excuses about it, such as fake Q'rans, wrong translations and what not!!

Simply dont have the GUTS to accept what is wrong is wrong, this is basic right and wrong concepts, this is why we say Islam blind folding its followers!
 

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    sri_lion said:
    This Dilemma is actually created by the Q'ran itself!

    While Q'ran says wife beating is OK, people know from deep down it is not OK!

    But they are not allowed to go beyond Q'ran since they are suppose to fear ALLAH! Thus trying to make lame excuses about it, such as fake Q'rans, wrong translations and what not!!

    Simply dont have the GUTS to accept what is wrong is wrong, this is basic right and wrong concepts, this is why we say Islam blind folding its followers!

    Well said! Sri-Lion has given a good summery of the discussion.

    People in their hearts know what is in Quran is not acceptable, but they cannot deny it either since it is from GOD. so they make compensatory arguments trying to white wash the bad verses of quran by

    1. bringing in other verses from quran
    (which only proves their are condratictions in quran)
    2. quote Hadith
    ( which is not accepted as quran by some muslim scholars)
    3. By giving general interpretations of their own
    ( unknowingly challenging quranic view)
     

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    ChuttaFX said:
    Some muslim people on EK (include saraj) have said me that most of them r from fake qurhans. But most of they post here r unacceptable. So that, many of them don't know islam well. That's why they post fake stuff. If these people who know islam well, then it's a fault of qurhan. Which one would be right?
    mate, theres no muslim women in this forum married or non-married. if you really want to know how these things happen best way is to talk to a women whose married to a muslim.we guys are mostly not married and think of marriage and women with our own ideas.

    there are very popular forums in the net where muslim women contribute, easily you can find out what effects them and how they think.

    here are few
    http://muslimvillage.com/forums/
    http://www.ummah.com/forum/
    http://www.themuslimzone.com/

    go do a search for wife beating or anything like that or put a thread asking their view, you'll get a proper answer from real people if you really interested in knowing.

    if you want to learn swimming, ask someone who has gone in water and has done it :yes:. not people who just wait in the shore and critisise everything..
     
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    sri_lion said:
    I have a lot of respect for Buddhism, but before being a Buddhist I'm a human being, and a Sri Lankan... so I'm not a 100% True Buddhist, but that doesn't stop me from admiring Buddhism for what it is, it seems the most logical religion of all, there's no doubt about it!

    To answer your question, Nibbana is not a state that you can archieve overnight its a process of many many many years as told by Lord Buddha, so we are all.. whether we like it or not is in the journey, sooner or later we will choose to enter the path and dedicate ourselves to it... the people whom decided that way are the ones whom you see now as monks, so my time will come like them one fine day I'll understand the nature of things and commit myself to the middle path!

    My life is not over yet, so I may or may not commit myself in this life time who knows only time will tell!


    he he....even the Great Lion is distancing him self from Buddhism...when it comes to the practicality:D .......the truth is on ur answer it self lion...learn:yes:
     

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    ex-muslim Ahmed said:

    Well said! Sri-Lion has given a good summery of the discussion.

    People in their hearts know what is in Quran is not acceptable, but they cannot deny it either since it is from GOD. so they make compensatory arguments trying to white wash the bad verses of quran by

    1. bringing in other verses from quran
    (which only proves their are condratictions in quran)
    2. quote Hadith
    ( which is not accepted as quran by some muslim scholars)
    3. By giving general interpretations of their own
    ( unknowingly challenging quranic view)


    You dont have to change colours to prove points...lol wot an idiot u r....:D .........i doubt ur the little puppy who was chased out of EK ......with humiliation....
     

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    sri_lion said:
    I have a lot of respect for Buddhism, but before being a Buddhist I'm a human being, and a Sri Lankan... so I'm not a 100% True Buddhist, but that doesn't stop me from admiring Buddhism for what it is, it seems the most logical religion of all, there's no doubt about it!

    To answer your question, Nibbana is not a state that you can archieve overnight its a process of many many many years as told by Lord Buddha, so we are all.. whether we like it or not is in the journey, sooner or later we will choose to enter the path and dedicate ourselves to it... the people whom decided that way are the ones whom you see now as monks, so my time will come like them one fine day I'll understand the nature of things and commit myself to the middle path!

    My life is not over yet, so I may or may not commit myself in this life time who knows only time will tell!



    So you accept the fact that you cant practically be a true buddhist...:D .....
     

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    Idi Amin said:
    So you accept the fact that you cant practically be a true buddhist...:D .....

    Idi Amin said:
    he he....even the Great Lion is distancing him self from Buddhism...when it comes to the practicality .......the truth is on ur answer it self lion...learn


    How can you say it is not practical when there's so many people such as MONKS devoted their lives to Buddhism!

    As for me, it is my personal decision, and Buddhism doesn't really stop from guiding you to Nibbana... Nibbana can be considered as the distant goal, But Buddhism teaches you how to live your life till then, like in the "Singalovada Sutra" for example where Lord Buddha explains how to maintain a good behavior while you decide to enter the path to attain Nibbana!

    So Buddhism has explained both paths, not extremism... the middle path, that is why it is flexible... and in Buddhism flexibility is in your own hands! Because if you decide to achieve Nibbana sooner than others your behaviors must also be changed accordingly this is the nature of things, so don't compare the 2 separate path and try to measure flexibility with regards to each other... they are indeed 2 different things!
     
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  • Idi Amin said:
    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    mata p*kenuth hina umbe kathawata........:rofl:




    why should it be a family secret..y dont you tell ur family members wot u believe .......:D so ur an Aitheist to start with......

    Can you describe how humans came to being according to ur beliefs???:cool:
    Whay don't you answer his question first without answering with another question?