Islam & the Status of Women

[Y2K]

Oh I forgot one thing yeah their is a system is heaven there is a kindom also but is it a perfect one not like human currupted system OK AcientGlory

 

[AncientGlory]

Yeah, Yeah yeah bla bla bla...

Relax I was just having some fun. We both are comfortable where we stand, even thought it doesn't make any sense to each other. I can't see any evidence for GOD's existence and you believe it firmly, even without evidence. Leave it there.

Now my knowledge on bible is minimal, but I'm just curious. Aren't the following words spoken by Jesus?

21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

 

[AncientGlory]

And I'm also curious to know your opinion. Do you think it is justifiable if your father locks you in the basement for the rest of your life, just because you didn't love him?

 

[Y2K]

Yeah, Yeah yeah bla bla bla...

Relax I was just having some fun. We both are comfortable where we stand, even thought it doesn't make any sense to each other. I can't see any evidence for GOD's existence and you believe it firmly, even without evidence. Leave it there.

Now my knowledge on bible is minimal, but I'm just curious. Aren't the following words spoken by Jesus? NO

21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Very First attempt failed ..... Deuteronomy 21:21 This verse is from the old testament .........


Many Scriptures show that the Old Testament law is not binding on us today.
Hebrews 8:7-13 quotes Jeremiah 31:31-34, which says that the Old Testament was a covenant or agreement made at Mt. Sinai between God and Israel. But God predicted the coming of a new covenant unlike that old one. That new covenant is the New Testament. Now that it has come, the Old Testament has vanished away.

Hebrews 10:9,10 - Jesus came to take away the first will or covenant and establish the second.

Colossians 2:14 - The Old Testament ordinances were taken away when Christ was nailed to the cross. [cf. v16,17]

The Old Testament Law of Moses cannot properly be bound as authority for religious practices today. We today are subject to the gospel of Christ, which is a different kind of law: one that provides forgiveness for our sins through the blood of Jesus.

The Greatest Commandment
The poster’s question asks why don’t Christians follow all of the Old Testament laws (completely). The biblical passage that this person refers to is simply stating that Christ is the fulfillment of the law not that Christians need to fulfill the letter of the law. Later in Matthew, some scribes ask Jesus, "Which is the greatest commandment?" Jesus tells them that the greatest commandment is to love the Lord with all your heart mind body and soul and the second is like the first which is to love your neighbor as yourself (Mark 12:28-34 NIV). Love can do no wrong to its’ neighbor, therefore love is the fulfillment of the law (Romans 13:10).

Christ Is the Fulfillment of the Law
This is what Christ meant when He stated that He had not come to abolish the law or the Prophets but to fulfill them. Because God is love and Christ is the Son of God, Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law. Elsewhere the bible states that the law was given to make man aware of sin — to know the difference between sin and godliness. When the Old Testament laws came the people of God — the Israelites, were not indwelt with the Holy Spirit. Therefore, they had to be told what sin was and what it wasn’t.



I curious too ...... having some fun

 

[Hettiarachi]

Very First attempt failed ..... Deuteronomy 21:21 This verse is from the old testament .........


Many Scriptures show that the Old Testament law is not binding on us today.
Hebrews 8:7-13 quotes Jeremiah 31:31-34, which says that the Old Testament was a covenant or agreement made at Mt. Sinai between God and Israel. But God predicted the coming of a new covenant unlike that old one. That new covenant is the New Testament. Now that it has come, the Old Testament has vanished away.

Hebrews 10:9,10 - Jesus came to take away the first will or covenant and establish the second.

Colossians 2:14 - The Old Testament ordinances were taken away when Christ was nailed to the cross. [cf. v16,17]

The Old Testament Law of Moses cannot properly be bound as authority for religious practices today. We today are subject to the gospel of Christ, which is a different kind of law: one that provides forgiveness for our sins through the blood of Jesus.

The Greatest Commandment
The poster’s question asks why don’t Christians follow all of the Old Testament laws (completely). The biblical passage that this person refers to is simply stating that Christ is the fulfillment of the law not that Christians need to fulfill the letter of the law. Later in Matthew, some scribes ask Jesus, "Which is the greatest commandment?" Jesus tells them that the greatest commandment is to love the Lord with all your heart mind body and soul and the second is like the first which is to love your neighbor as yourself (Mark 12:28-34 NIV). Love can do no wrong to its’ neighbor, therefore love is the fulfillment of the law (Romans 13:10).

Christ Is the Fulfillment of the Law
This is what Christ meant when He stated that He had not come to abolish the law or the Prophets but to fulfill them. Because God is love and Christ is the Son of God, Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law. Elsewhere the bible states that the law was given to make man aware of sin — to know the difference between sin and godliness. When the Old Testament laws came the people of God — the Israelites, were not indwelt with the Holy Spirit. Therefore, they had to be told what sin was and what it wasn’t.



I curious too ...... having some fun

Hi Y2k I am also curious to know why christians don't follow OT..What I am finding very confusing from the Christians is that they base their life all on the New Testament, and the New Testament does not have many laws in it. It hardly covers any hot topic or issue that we deal with in our life. For instance, the Old Testament has its own laws for inheritance, but the New Testament doesn't.

Now, if a father dies and leaves $1,000,000 to a family of 1 boy, 2 girls and a widow wife. According to the Old Testament, only the boy inherits all, and the two daughters and the widow wife must live under the son's laws and mercy according to (Numbers 27:1-11) in the Old Testament. This law was put by Jesus himself (since Jesus is GOD according to the Christians belief). My question is, since the New Testament does not even talk about the topic of inheritance, but the Old Testament does, then wouldn't it make more sense for Christians to follow the laws of the Old Testament, since both the New Testament and the Old Testament were inspired by Jesus himself?

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)" We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

If you look at the Western World today (which is mostly Christians), you would notice that their constitutions and way of life is not Biblical at all. They avoid Jesus' teachings in the Old Testament (since he is GOD himself and the author of the Old Testament), and they almost don't have any law that deals with life in the New Testament. My question in this case, what kind of standards does the Christian religion have? If Christians have to create their own laws to manage to survive life and its issues, then my friend, wouldn't that make Christianity a useless and irrational religion?

Its unfortunate and quite obvious that Christians today made their Bible a useless religion. They refuse to follow the Old Testament, which covers all of life's laws and issues, and they only stick to the New Testament, knowing that (1) the Old Testament was inspired by Jesus himself, and (2) both the Old Testament and the New Testament form what we called today "The Holy Bible". If the Old Testament must not count for Christians today and they must not follow it, then why is it part of their Holy Book? and why follow part of Jesus' teachings and not all of them, meaning, why follow the New Testament alone and not the Old Testament when Jesus himself is the author of both books?.

 

[AncientGlory]

Very First attempt failed ..... Deuteronomy 21:21 This verse is from the old testament .........

Am I to assume the old testament is not part of the bible?

 

[Y2K]

Am I to assume the old testament is not part of the bible?

no mchan bt Jesus made everthing new

 

[Y2K]

Hi Y2k I am also curious to know why christians don't follow OT..What I am finding very confusing from the Christians is that they base their life all on the New Testament, and the New Testament does not have many laws in it I will prove that you statement is dead wrong. It hardly covers any hot topic or issue that we deal with in our life. (Oh dear haven't you read it fully? it has everything abt life including how to attain Salvaton) For instance, the Old Testament has its own laws for inheritance, but the New Testament doesn't.
(The Better truth is it has all the basics, the problem is you do not know it remember in front of the court you can not say you don't know the law) , I will show you one by one


Now, if a father dies and leaves $1,000,000 to a family of 1 boy, 2 girls and a widow wife. According to the Old Testament, only the boy inherits all, and the two daughters and the widow wife must live under the son's laws and mercy according to (Numbers 27:1-11) in the Old Testament. This law was put by Jesus himself (since Jesus is GOD according to the Christians belief). My question is, since the New Testament does not even talk about the topic of inheritance, (New Testament is more abt inheritance the kindom not abt inheritance of Wealth bt people like those days still worries abt their inheritance on earth) but the Old Testament does, then wouldn't it make more sense for Christians to follow the laws of the Old Testament, since both the New Testament and the Old Testament were inspired by Jesus himself? Yeah let me explain it this way when you are too young when you ask some question your parent can not give straight answers because they know you can not understand it bt they know later on you will understand it then they can explain it so basically first you have to feed your stomach then your mind I think this will give you a slight idea) after all we can stay God knows the best

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)" We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

If you look at the Western World today (which is mostly Christians), you would notice that their constitutions and way of life is not Biblical at all. They avoid Jesus' teachings in the Old Testament (since he is GOD himself and the author of the Old Testament), and they almost don't have any law that deals with life in the New Testament. My question in this case, what kind of standards does the Christian religion have? If Christians have to create their own laws to manage to survive life and its issues, then my friend, wouldn't that make Christianity a useless and irrational religion?

Its unfortunate and quite obvious that Christians today made their Bible a useless religion. They refuse to follow the Old Testament, which covers all of life's laws and issues, and they only stick to the New Testament, knowing that (1) the Old Testament was inspired by Jesus himself, and (2) both the Old Testament and the New Testament form what we called today "The Holy Bible". If the Old Testament must not count for Christians today and they must not follow it, then why is it part of their Holy Book? and why follow part of Jesus' teachings and not all of them, meaning, why follow the New Testament alone and not the Old Testament when Jesus himself is the author of both books?.

HEy hey hey mchan pls give me sometime today is a working day for me bt I promise you that non of your question remains answered

I assume you have a basic idea of Law then it will become easy to understand what i am trying to say

 

[Y2K]

Am I to assume the old testament is not part of the bible?

Remember one thing some people says Christians have blind faith yeah that is true before the age of Jesus Christ bt after Jesus you can not say we are worshipping someone we doesn't even know, we have seen him we have seen his great Miracles

Old Testament indeed a part of the Bible it more or less like World History of Christianity, I think most important in it I see is there are some prophecies in it and New Testament become living proof of fullfilment of those prophecies (I don't Just B'live

Many Scriptures show that the Old Testament law is not binding on us today.
Hebrews 8:7-13 quotes Jeremiah 31:31-34, which says that the Old Testament was a covenant or agreement made at Mt. Sinai between God and Israel. But God predicted the coming of a new covenant unlike that old one. That new covenant is the New Testament. Now that it has come, the Old Testament has vanished away.

Hebrews 10:9,10 - Jesus came to take away the first will or covenant and establish the second.

Colossians 2:14 - The Old Testament ordinances were taken away when Christ was nailed to the cross.

The Old Testament Law of Moses cannot properly be bound as authority for religious practices today. We today are subject to the gospel of Christ, which is a different kind of law: one that provides forgiveness for our sins through the blood of Jesus.

For more evidence that the Old Law is no longer in effect

Rom. 7:1-7; Gal. 3:24,25; 5:1-6; Heb. 7:11-18

But people often become confused about the real value of the Old Testament.
Some act as though the Old Testament is worthless today.

* They may rarely study it themselves.

* They may not want to study it in Bible classes.

* They may become confused when Christians quote the Old Testament. They may ask, if the Old Testament was done away, why do preachers sometimes use it to prove their points?

So people are confused about the purposes the Old Testament serves today.

 

[Y2K]

Hi Y2k I am also curious to know why christians don't follow OT..What I am finding very confusing from the Christians is that they base their life all on the New Testament, and the New Testament does not have many laws in it. It hardly covers any hot topic or issue that we deal with in our life. For instance, the Old Testament has its own laws for inheritance, but the New Testament doesn't.

Now, if a father dies and leaves $1,000,000 to a family of 1 boy, 2 girls and a widow wife. According to the Old Testament, only the boy inherits all, and the two daughters and the widow wife must live under the son's laws and mercy according to (Numbers 27:1-11) in the Old Testament. This law was put by Jesus himself (since Jesus is GOD according to the Christians belief). My question is, since the New Testament does not even talk about the topic of inheritance, but the Old Testament does, then wouldn't it make more sense for Christians to follow the laws of the Old Testament, since both the New Testament and the Old Testament were inspired by Jesus himself?

I will answer to ur 2nd part now (lunch time)


"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)" We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.


Filter the universal principle through the New Testament teaching regarding that principle or regarding the specific law being studied.

Some of the Old Testament laws, for example, are restated in the New Testament as commandments for New Testament believers. When the Old Covenant was abrogated, the Old Testament Law ceased to be a Law for Christians. However, when the New Testament repeats a law it thus becomes a commandment for believers, to be obeyed as a commandment of Christ. But this validity and authority as a command comes from the New Testament and not the Old Testament. In addition occasionally the New Testament qualifies an Old Testament law, either modifying it or expanding on it. For example for the command in Exodus 20:14, "You shall not commit adultery," the universal principle relates to the sanctity of marriage and the need for faithfulness in marriage. As this principle is filtered through the New Testament, Jesus’ teaching on the subject must be incorporated into the principle. Jesus said, "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matt. 5:28), thereby expanding the range of this law. He applied it not only to acts of adultery but also to thoughts of adultery. Therefore the commandment for Christians today becomes "You shall not commit adultery in act or in thought." But Christians should seek to obey this command because it reflects a universal biblical principle reinforced by the New Testament, and not simply because it is an Old Testament law.




If you look at the Western World today (which is mostly Christians) Soon it will become Islamic may be that is the reason , you would notice that their constitutions and way of life is not Biblical at all. They avoid Jesus' teachings in the Old Testament (since he is GOD himself and the author of the Old Testament), and they almost don't have any law that deals with life in the New Testament. Wrong agian see below topic My question in this case, what kind of standards does the Christian religion have? See below If Christians have to create their own laws to manage to survive life and its issues, then my friend, wouldn't that make Christianity a useless and irrational religion? We have some basic law apart from that some counries have their own additons according to the situation by the way what do you think about Islamic LAW?

Nine of the Ten Commands are repeated in the New Testament.

1. No Other Gods but One God - 1 Cor. 8:4; Acts 14:15

2. No graven images - Gal. 5:19-21; Rom. 1:22,23; 1 John 5:21

3. Don't take God's name in vain - James 5:12

4. Remember the Sabbath. This command is the only one of the ten that is nowhere repeated in the New Testament. The only Sabbath rest promised in the New Testament is eternal life (Heb. 4:9-11).

5. Honor your parents - Eph. 6:2,3

6. Do not kill - Rom. 13:8-10

7. Do not commit adultery - Rom. 13:8-10; 1 Cor. 6:9,10

8. Do not steal - Rom. 13:8-10; Eph. 4:28

9. Do not bear false witness - Rev. 21:8; 22:15; Col. 3:9

10. Do not covet - Rom. 13:8-10; Eph. 5:3.

See how little you know about Christianity?



Its unfortunate and quite obvious that Christians today made their Bible a useless religion. They refuse to follow the Old Testament, which covers all of life's laws and issues, and they only stick to the New Testament, knowing that (1) the Old Testament was inspired by Jesus himself, and (2) both the Old Testament and the New Testament form what we called today "The Holy Bible". If the Old Testament must not count for Christians today and they must not follow it, then why is it part of their Holy Book? and why follow part of Jesus' teachings and not all of them, meaning, why follow the New Testament alone and not the Old Testament when Jesus himself is the author of both books?.

The Value of the Old Testament Today

I. The Old Testament Records the History of God's Dealings with Man
II. The Old Testament Gives Evidences to Support Our Faith
III. The Old Testament Teaches General Principles of Truth
IV. The Old Testament Gives Appreciation and Understanding of the New Testament.



OLD TESTAMENT NEW TESTAMENT

Human high priest Jesus is high priest (Heb. 9:11f)
Physical temple Spiritual temple (1 Cor. 3:16)


Actually you do not have to worry about Old Testament or New Testament becuase if you can keep his (Jesus's) last commandments it's like at the end of the day you won't end up with any violation of his law

"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" Luke 10:27

If you love your God (Jesus Christ) with all your heart with all your soul you will never violate commadments No. 1,2,3 & 4 (all related to GOD)

"I am giving you a new commandment: That you continue to love one another in the way I have loved you, that you also love one another. This is how everyone shall know that you are my disciples, if you have that love toward one another." John 13:34-35
This is my command: that you keep on loving each other just as I have loved you. No one has greater love than a person who lays down his life for his friends, John 15:12-13.

If you truely love one another you won't violate commandments 5 - 10

see how clever is our LORD, still didn't get my point lets take one by one


1. No Other Gods but One God - 1 Cor. 8:4; Acts 14:15 if you love your god truely you'll never worship any other GOD

2. No graven images - Gal. 5:19-21; Rom. 1:22,23; 1 John 5:21
if you love your god truely you'll never keep any other's GOD images, holy water etc.

3. Don't take God's name in vain - James 5:12
If you love your god truely with all your heart you will never use his name in vain

4. Remember the Sabbath. This command is the only one of the ten that is nowhere repeated in the New Testament. The only Sabbath rest promised in the New Testament is eternal life (Heb. 4:9-11).

Even if you want to keep this commandment you can do so

5. Honor your parents - Eph. 6:2,3
If you truely love ur parents you will honor them

6. Do not kill - Rom. 13:8-10
If you truely love one another how the hell you can kill him you can not even think of it am i right?

7. Do not commit adultery - Rom. 13:8-10; 1 Cor. 6:9,10
If you truely love your wife you will never ever go after other women

8. Do not steal - Rom. 13:8-10; Eph. 4:28
if you truely love ur brother how can u steal from him?

9. Do not bear false witness - Rev. 21:8; 22:15; Col. 3:9
How can you bear false witness if you speak the truth? how can you bear false witness if you truely love him?

10. Do not covet - Rom. 13:8-10; Eph. 5:3.
If we love one another we will share with them we won't be stingy


So my dear friend as Jesus told us "

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR

HE IS THE ONLY ONE WE NEED

 

[Y2K]

"Behold I make all things new."

 

[Y2K]

Revelation 21:1-8

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband; and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling of God is with men. He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself will be with them; he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away." And he who sat upon the throne said, "Behold I make all things new." Also he said, "Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true." And he said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the fountain of the water of life without payment. He who conquers shall have this heritage, and I will be his God and he shall be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."

 

[Odel]

Americans people got spoiled after they embraced Islam that is the bitter truth I will start a new thread to show how Islam going to invade the whole world

MANN HAVE u gone nutts????

Wen did ISLAM Spoil the world???

Dont critisize! If u wanna know about Islam and inner islam.
Drop me a mail and meet me.

 

[AncientGlory]

no mchan bt Jesus made everthing new

Well according to many sources, Christian Bible contains two parts, namely Old Testament and New Testament. Are you claiming this is wrong?

 

[Y2K]

Well according to many sources, Christian Bible contains two parts, namely Old Testament and New Testament. Are you claiming this is wrong?

Common Mchan I didn't say Old Testament is not a part of the Bible OK but if you can not Understand it or Difficult to understand it , you do not have to worry now you have a NEW Gospel so follow Jesus then everything will be clear to you


True Christian = OLD Testanment + New Testament

NT = TC - OT

 

[Y2K]

MANN HAVE u gone nutts????

Wen did ISLAM Spoil the world???

Dont critisize! If u wanna know about Islam and inner islam.
Drop me a mail and meet me.

Sorry bother I do not want to insult true Muslims I am only against inhumanity bt that inhumanity coming in the Name of Allah .... I feel very sorry for him too

Why Allah said : Kill the Jew/Christian (People of the book) ? Why he said only sin is unpardonable is to say Allah has a son or God has a son? Why he approved light beating for your wives? why muslims kill in the name of Allah ? Why there is no religious freedom in Islam? Why Allah so worried about Jesus? Why God needs addendums? or Rivisions?


Why Holy Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers ? ok 10 or 20 will say a mistake bt over 100 na?

Why don't you see this kind of verse in ur Holy book ? If i were you i will question about it

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Discrimination start here ? persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.

Fight in the name of allah the all Mercyfull GOD ask their children to fight in his name?

So we know that Christians has to b'live in Son of God to be saved but Allah says the other thing and he is so worried about our jesus he is only one verse from Quran

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"


Common friend just tell me whether i am refering to a wrong version or what? pls Justify these verse remember there are over 100 . may Quran is currupted?

 

[Y2K]

So lets talk about women

I would kindly request some of our Muslim friend to explain this

Does Islam teach that a woman is worth less than a man?

Qur'an (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176)

Qur'an (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Muslim apologists have sometimes creatively tried to explain why a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man's under Islamic law (based on this verse) while still attempting to maintain the semblance of equality. Unfortunately for them, studies consistently show that women are less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they would make more reliable witnesses in any court - were it not for Islam's obvious sexism.


Qur'an (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"can uplease explain why?

Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..."

A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual.

Qur'an (4:24) and Qur'an (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage.




Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?

Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.


please justify above statements

Thank you in advance -Y2K

 

[Y2K]

Bukhari (88:219) - "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

Why?

Bukhari (2:28) - Ingratitude toward her husband (ie. disobedience) can land a woman in Hell. Muhammad explains why women comprise the bulk of Hell's occupants.

Why specially women?

 

[Y2K]

Bukhari (4:149) - Muhammad's wives are even trained to defecate on his command.



Bukhari (48:826) - Women have a deficiency of intelligence, meaning that their decisions will not be comparable to a man's.



Bukhari (58:125) - Women are tradable commodities. A Muslim with two wives offers a fellow Muslim his pick between the two. Muhammad then arranges a wedding banquet.



Bukhari (62:81) - According to Muhammad, the most important part of a marriage contract is the unrestricted access that a man has to his wife's vagina.

 

[Al Baik]

Sorry bother I do not want to insult true Muslims I am only against inhumanity bt that inhumanity coming in the Name of Allah .... I feel very sorry for him too

Why Allah said : Kill the Jew/Christian (People of the book) ? Why he said only sin is unpardonable is to say Allah has a son or God has a son? Why he approved light beating for your wives? why muslims kill in the name of Allah ? Why there is no religious freedom in Islam? Why Allah so worried about Jesus? Why God needs addendums? or Rivisions?


Why Holy Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers ? ok 10 or 20 will say a mistake bt over 100 na?

Why don't you see this kind of verse in ur Holy book ? If i were you i will question about it

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Discrimination start here ? persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.

Fight in the name of allah the all Mercyfull GOD ask their children to fight in his name?

So we know that Christians has to b'live in Son of God to be saved but Allah says the other thing and he is so worried about our jesus he is only one verse from Quran

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"


Common friend just tell me whether i am refering to a wrong version or what? pls Justify these verse remember there are over 100 . may Quran is currupted?

True Muslim කියන එකට ඔයා දෙන ඩෙෆිනිශන් එක මොකද්ද?