IT සහ CS අතර වෙනස?

Scottmccal

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Lol look at your reply, I shouldn't have discussed with a noob like you. That's why I asked at the very beginning the number of years you were actually in the IT industry.

Now I got it, 0 years.. :P:P:P
i think you got the truth now :D dissaponted? you can't even guess my industry experience :D .
 

KingCM

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    mage IT career life ekedi nam mama menna me widiyata thmai hithagena hitiye....

    CSE => CS > IT

    But according to #Scottmccal

    CSE = IT > CS​
     

    Mr.Thor

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    I really don't like to compare. But this information is for the one who started the thread.

    But here is a little comparison regarding the Lecture panel in UCSC and Mora IT.

    1. UCSC

    http://ucsc.cmb.ac.lk/ucsc-staff/

    2. Mora IT

    http://www.itfac.mrt.ac.lk/index.php/staff/academic-staff/department-of-information-technology

    With all due respect to the staff in both faculties, UCSC got more resources, see the number of people who got Prof and Dr. titles.


    Just because of the faculty is in Moratuwa, does not mean you are getting into Moratuwa Engineering faculty. This is where most people get it wrong. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

     

    cs_guy

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    I really don't like to compare. But this information is for the one who started the thread.

    But here is a little comparison regarding the Lecture panel in UCSC and Mora IT.

    1. UCSC

    http://ucsc.cmb.ac.lk/ucsc-staff/

    2. Mora IT

    http://www.itfac.mrt.ac.lk/index.php/staff/academic-staff/department-of-information-technology

    With all due respect to the staff in both faculties, UCSC got more resources, see the number of people who got Prof and Dr. titles.


    Just because of the faculty is in Moratuwa, does not mean you are getting into Moratuwa Engineering faculty. This is where most people get it wrong. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Something I wanna add is UCSC has more than one lecturer for a single module for most of the modules. (around 3 for some) So the lecturers split it up according to the parts they are good at. And there are also lecturers coming from UOC science faculty for mathematics, stat etc and some lecturers straight from industry... I dont know the condition at Mora IT to compare that to. :)

    But one fact I know is that there was a shortage of lecturers at Mora IT around 2yrs ago. Dont know if there was a change in that, and I heard it from a very high official in Mora IT fac at that time so it has to be true (and he too recommended UCSC CS over Mora IT) :rolleyes::D
     

    Anjulayr

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    Something I wanna add is UCSC has more than one lecturer for a single module for most of the modules. (around 3 for some) So the lecturers split it up according to the parts they are good at. And there are also lecturers coming from UOC science faculty for mathematics, stat etc and some lecturers straight from industry... I dont know the condition at Mora IT to compare that to. :)

    But one fact I know is that there was a shortage of lecturers at Mora IT around 2yrs ago. Dont know if there was a change in that, and I heard it from a very high official in Mora IT fac at that time so it has to be true (and he too recommended UCSC CS over Mora IT) :rolleyes::D

    We do have visiting lecturers coming for the faculty from Moratuwa CSE, Japura and Kalaniya MIT for certain subjects. The shortage of lecturers were back there due to most of them left for their MSc's and phd's. We do have visiting lecturers from the Industry. :D Just stating because you weren't aware of the IT Fac. But like you we dint have several lecturers for one course module. :rolleyes:
     

    aluthKolla0001

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    UCSC CS is the best choice. If you want to work with Biology people, go for Mora IT.
    If u want to work with maths people only, go for ucsc cs.
    Updated salaries of Ucsc.
    4 yr cs fresh graduate : 135000
    ucsc 3 yr cs graduate 80-1k .
    Without any argue, ucsc is the ict pioneer name in the industry.
    If u want ask from the industry.
    Good luck

    LOL.
    "4 yr cs fresh graduate : 135000" - please list down some companies
     

    Tharuroxforjustice

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    මම දන්නා විදියට පොඩ්ඩක් කියන්නම්...

    IT - business application හදන්න තමයි වැඩියෙන්ම target කරන්නේ.hardware level එකෙන් උඩ හරිය තමයි මේ අයට උගන්වන්නේ..busienss world එකේදී එන problem වලට solution දෙන්න තමයි වැඩියෙන්ම focus කරන්නේ....

    CS - ගොඩක්ම theoritical scientifically side එකට තමයි බර කරන්නේ.....logical app / research side එකේ වගේ පත්ටට focus වෙනවා....මේ අයත් hardware ලෙවෙල් එකෙන් උඩ තමයි ගොඩක්ම දුරට ඉන්නේ....

    Com.eng - මේ අය වැඩ කරන්නේ hardware level එකට කිට්ටු වෙන්න.....බොහෝ දුරට hardware + software layer 2කෙම වැඩකරනවා....

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ඔය උඩින් කිව්වේ normally ස්ටෑන්ඩර්ඩ් එක යන විදිය....

    නමුත් ඔය ස්ටෑන්ඩර්ඩ් එකේ විදියට ලංකාවේ නම් බොහෝ දුරට වැඩ කරන්නේ නැ.

    com.eng ලත් software engineer ල වගේ වැඩ කරනවා....Elec.eng ලත් සොෆ්ට්වරේ eng.ල වගේ වැඩ කරනවා...

    ඔය කිසිම degree එකක් ස්ටෑන්ඩර්ඩ් නැ.බය වෙන්න එපා.....bad reputation එකක් ගැන නෙමෙයි කිව්වේ....

    over knowledge එකක් දෙන්න අනවශ්‍ය දේවලුත් දාල ....

    ඔය මොරටුවේ IT degree එකත් අ වගේ එකක්....CSE degree එකේ උගන්වන දේවල් IT එකෙත් ඔබල....

    subject තිබ්බ කියල නරකක් වෙන්නේ නැ ....

    page 27 - https://www.acm.org/education/curricula/IT2008 Curriculum.pdf

    page 66 - https://www.acm.org/binaries/content/assets/education/ce2016-final-report.pdf

    Check Out the Curricula - http://www.acm.org/education/curricula-recommendations

    අනිවාර්යෙන්ම එකගයි
    .:yes::yes::yes::yes:
     

    Anjulayr

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    I really don't like to compare. But this information is for the one who started the thread.

    But here is a little comparison regarding the Lecture panel in UCSC and Mora IT.

    1. UCSC

    http://ucsc.cmb.ac.lk/ucsc-staff/

    2. Mora IT

    http://www.itfac.mrt.ac.lk/index.php/staff/academic-staff/department-of-information-technology

    With all due respect to the staff in both faculties, UCSC got more resources, see the number of people who got Prof and Dr. titles.


    Just because of the faculty is in Moratuwa, does not mean you are getting into Moratuwa Engineering faculty. This is where most people get it wrong. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


    You have quoted only a single department in the ITFac. Mcn earlier I asked you a question regarding your statement on the Bio science students. you said that was due to several course modules. Can I know them? because we are offered most of the subjects for the final year and both Bio and Maths students do enroll to them. Are we not taught some areas due to Bio science students? :rolleyes:
     

    ScottBack

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    Nice try of banning , got to know now :D

    Nice try of banning me :D shame ..
    Finally Lecturers ? :D :D :D :D

    I know finally you guys gonna talk about Mota IT website is soo primary , and UCSC got the best site .. SO we dont like to compare & soo many stuff.. Admit it. :D :D :D
    this is where you gonna stop.

    I agree with that only Mora IT web site is primary ;)

    Ok thanx for your try to bann me and do the same for this account :D
    some one reading this post in future , will understand the situation, And who are the noobs. :D
     

    AlphaStigma

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    Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu
    1.English
    2.English
    3.English
    4.confidence in speaking
    5.fundamentals in programming​

    Guess I really need to stop being shy and get some confidence in speaking :sorry: I can't even speak a few words in public :(
    I started watching some tutorials in English and programming. :)
    Thanks a lot... :)

    Depends Based on what u r interested in mchan. If u expect the degree to give u everything, it will not take u anywhere. Its really nice to see someone having a clear idea on what he is going to do and trying to get prepared.
    a fundamental programming knowledge is a must. First try to get the basic concepts.
    Then you can focus on identifying the area u r willing to continue. For that, first two years give you more than basic understanding. Still i suggest you to learn atleast the basics of some(networking, database, web development...) while u wait at home till u get the letter. U will understand what to master by doing that(what ur heart asks from u :love: :P ). Whatever u choose, keep urself uptodate with the latest trends and technologies under that.
    I knw this is a tough ask if u have no idea in CS or IT,
    BUt i can assure u by the time u start the degree u can continue mastering whatever u want without being stressed about academics.

    Thank you.. :) I really appreciate you taking the time to reply me. I'll keep them in mind. I started learning about basic programming but not networking, database and web development. (Really hard to find good free tutorials :( Fortunately I found a Lynda.com account thru Elakiri :lol:) I'll give them a try :D
    Thanks again. :)


    just learn some python, java basics and php :)
    They teach us some Python in A/level ICT. Not much. Very very basic stuff :) But I don't know a thing about other two. :lol: I'll try to learn them as well :) Thanks a lot..

     

    Kamal Pereraa

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    A final note whoever reading this.
    Guys if you want to get an idea about the courses you better relate to the respective syllabuses.
    Select the most preferred course.
    But fot me , with my industry experience, cs guys are having a better life. Mora IT is still struggling to provide internships for their batch.(for details, consider the current 3rd year batch.most guys havent got internships.).
    As with ucsc, these problems are sorted out and they are moving forward with technology.
    Good luck.
     

    deepbug

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    Guess I really need to stop being shy and get some confidence in speaking :sorry: I can't even speak a few words in public :(
    I started watching some tutorials in English and programming. :)
    Thanks a lot... :)



    Thank you.. :) I really appreciate you taking the time to reply me. I'll keep them in mind. I started learning about basic programming but not networking, database and web development. (Really hard to find good free tutorials :( Fortunately I found a Lynda.com account thru Elakiri :lol:) I'll give them a try :D
    Thanks again. :)



    They teach us some Python in A/level ICT. Not much. Very very basic stuff :) But I don't know a thing about other two. :lol: I'll try to learn them as well :) Thanks a lot..



    I don't recommend Lynda.com (It's OK to use Lynda as a supplementary source, but may not be good as a primary source). Try some university courses in edx.org or coursera.org. Those courses are made by Universities, So they have much more details and aspects than mere programming tutorials. On the other hand don't try to learn one specific programming language, Learn programming instead. There are great courses in edx.org or coursera.org on programming. Or you can try ocw.mit.edu. This site has recordings of actual lectures as taught in MIT. (ocw is my favorite for in-depth knowledge)

    PS: This is what I found while trying to learn CS online. Hope they'll work for you too :) And always read books, There are tons of knowledge in books, unmatched to on line courses
     
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    AlphaStigma

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    I don't recommend Lynda.com (It's OK to use Lynda as a supplementary source, but may not be good as a primary source). Try some university courses in edx.org or coursera.org. Those courses are made by Universities, So they have much more details and aspects than mere programming tutorials. On the other hand don't try to learn one specific programming language, Learn programming instead. There are great courses in edx.org or coursera.org on programming. Or you can try ocw.mit.edu. This site has recordings of actual lectures as taught in MIT. (ocw is my favorite for in-depth knowledge)

    PS: This is what I found while trying to learn CS online. Hope they'll work for you too :) And always read books, There are tons of knowledge in books, unmatched to on line courses

    Thanks.. i'll try them. :)
     

    toyotadealer

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    Do mora it

    Do Moratuwa IT, Industry reputation is high, still those graduates hire around 1lackh - 1.2 lackh, and most of the graduates found their jobs before they leave university.

    If you are going to do UCSC CS then better you get 4 year one. only few people will get selected for 4 year one. 4 year degrees still matter in Srilankan industry & abroad too.

    thanks guys..
     

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