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Killing Animals and HALAL
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The monks are not adviced to break leaves off trees as it was regarded as in appropriate in the time of Buddha. It causes a monk a "awatha" repeated such acts could lead to explusion from the sangha society.madurax86 said:
Hello,
I would like to bring to your notice some factual errors in this post.
Firstly it says, "The prophet has forbidden flesh only if it is not a sacrifice for himself. Does that mean he always expect sacrifices from men?.NO. Obviously he can't be that much cruel to accept meat from billions of people per day!."
Correct me if I am wrong but this statement implies that Muslims kill animals as a sacrifice for Muhammad! This gives me the feeling that the writer of this post is ignorant of Islam. FYI - prophet Muhammad is just a human being like you and me. God ('Allah' in Arabic) choose Muhammad as a messenger (prophet) to mankind to guide them in the correct path for our benefit in this world and the hereafter.
And this path (Islam) allows us to kill animals for our benefit in this world and hereafter. In Islam killing a animal is not a sin provided you have a good reason. We our allowed to kill animals for 1) for Food, 2) as a sacrifice to God, 3) for protection (e.g. like killing a snake) I don't need to explain about killing animals for food or protection but I'll expound about sacrificing animals.
You may already know that Muslims sacrifice animals on occasions like Haj festival or when a new baby is born etc. If a animal is killed as a sacrifice that should only be in the name of God not for any human being or anything else. And also God is not in need of our sacrifices like this article tries to imply. A animal sacrifice is done only as an act of worship through which the person/s sacrificing the animal intends to seek God's pleasure and gain good deeds for them. (note: What matters here is the intention. You can eat the meat of the sacrificed animal just like you would if you had killed it for food but it is encouraged to be distributed among the poor and needy.)
And what is this rot about Halal procedure that a plate needs to be heated etc. etc. Halal means anything that is permissible for a Muslim to consume or use be it clothing, employment etc. not only meat or flesh.
In the natural state meat or animal flesh is not Halal. If a Muslim wishes to eat meat it should be made Halal (i.e. lawful) through a simple ritual. This ritual requires that you kill the animal by cutting its throat and when cutting you invoke God. (you invoke God by saying "Bismillahi Allahu Akbar"). After this ritual the meat is Halal and you can consume it.
Also you must remember that only a few animals are Halal (lawful) to eat. These include camels, cows, rabbits, some birds, goats, horses among a few more. It should also be noted that fish or any creature that lives only in the water need not be made Halal. They are suitable for consumption whatever way they are killed.
Animals that have claws, or sharp teeth and prey on other animal (e.g. cats, dogs, vultures, tigers , lion etc) and repulsive animals like snakes, lizards etc. and animals that eat dirty things (e.g. pigs etc) are not permissible to eat even if you do the Halal ritual on them.
I hope I have explained about Halal. If you have anything about it I would be glad to discuss it with you. Also you can discuss anything about Islam and Muslims by visiting our group blog at - muslimunity.blogspot.com/
I would like to bring to your notice some factual errors in this post.
Firstly it says, "The prophet has forbidden flesh only if it is not a sacrifice for himself. Does that mean he always expect sacrifices from men?.NO. Obviously he can't be that much cruel to accept meat from billions of people per day!."
Correct me if I am wrong but this statement implies that Muslims kill animals as a sacrifice for Muhammad! This gives me the feeling that the writer of this post is ignorant of Islam. FYI - prophet Muhammad is just a human being like you and me. God ('Allah' in Arabic) choose Muhammad as a messenger (prophet) to mankind to guide them in the correct path for our benefit in this world and the hereafter.
And this path (Islam) allows us to kill animals for our benefit in this world and hereafter. In Islam killing a animal is not a sin provided you have a good reason. We our allowed to kill animals for 1) for Food, 2) as a sacrifice to God, 3) for protection (e.g. like killing a snake) I don't need to explain about killing animals for food or protection but I'll expound about sacrificing animals.
You may already know that Muslims sacrifice animals on occasions like Haj festival or when a new baby is born etc. If a animal is killed as a sacrifice that should only be in the name of God not for any human being or anything else. And also God is not in need of our sacrifices like this article tries to imply. A animal sacrifice is done only as an act of worship through which the person/s sacrificing the animal intends to seek God's pleasure and gain good deeds for them. (note: What matters here is the intention. You can eat the meat of the sacrificed animal just like you would if you had killed it for food but it is encouraged to be distributed among the poor and needy.)
And what is this rot about Halal procedure that a plate needs to be heated etc. etc. Halal means anything that is permissible for a Muslim to consume or use be it clothing, employment etc. not only meat or flesh.
In the natural state meat or animal flesh is not Halal. If a Muslim wishes to eat meat it should be made Halal (i.e. lawful) through a simple ritual. This ritual requires that you kill the animal by cutting its throat and when cutting you invoke God. (you invoke God by saying "Bismillahi Allahu Akbar"). After this ritual the meat is Halal and you can consume it.
Also you must remember that only a few animals are Halal (lawful) to eat. These include camels, cows, rabbits, some birds, goats, horses among a few more. It should also be noted that fish or any creature that lives only in the water need not be made Halal. They are suitable for consumption whatever way they are killed.
Animals that have claws, or sharp teeth and prey on other animal (e.g. cats, dogs, vultures, tigers , lion etc) and repulsive animals like snakes, lizards etc. and animals that eat dirty things (e.g. pigs etc) are not permissible to eat even if you do the Halal ritual on them.
I hope I have explained about Halal. If you have anything about it I would be glad to discuss it with you. Also you can discuss anything about Islam and Muslims by visiting our group blog at - muslimunity.blogspot.com/
i agree with ushanX said:Is a total rubbish
And pls Rapa you better stop posting this kind of topics
kohoma unath "gopalu samaja" wala bihiuna agam hetiyata yudeu, islam saha christian agam ganna puluwan..Mema agam athi une middle east wala. kAanthara wala saha yudda wala divi gewapu ayage akalpa mema agam wala ta godak balapala thiyenawa.
mewaye base thama
1- dewa wadaya (dewiyek innawa kiyana eka--Allah/ god)
2- prachandathwaya yam tharamakata anumatha kireema
3- thirisan sathunta wada minisa usas.. e nisa satthu merima kamak nehe kiyala.
4- pawata athi bayak nehe. Mokada maranen passe yanne swaragayata hari,, Allah langata kiyala vishwasa karanawa
Egypt wala eka muslim festival ekakata relawal pitin eluwan ge beli kapala maranawa mama dekka...
kohoma unath buddhism wala thiyena awihinsa wadaya e agam wala nehe...
E agam thunema samanatha bohomai....hariyata ekama thenakin patan gatthawage
mewaye base thama
1- dewa wadaya (dewiyek innawa kiyana eka--Allah/ god)
2- prachandathwaya yam tharamakata anumatha kireema
3- thirisan sathunta wada minisa usas.. e nisa satthu merima kamak nehe kiyala.
4- pawata athi bayak nehe. Mokada maranen passe yanne swaragayata hari,, Allah langata kiyala vishwasa karanawa
Egypt wala eka muslim festival ekakata relawal pitin eluwan ge beli kapala maranawa mama dekka...
kohoma unath buddhism wala thiyena awihinsa wadaya e agam wala nehe...
E agam thunema samanatha bohomai....hariyata ekama thenakin patan gatthawage
Okkoma dannawa wagey katha karata kisima deyak Danney naha....Naththinam oyawidiyata kiyavida...uhox said:kohoma unath "gopalu samaja" wala bihiuna agam hetiyata yudeu, islam saha christian agam ganna puluwan..Mema agam athi une middle east wala. kAanthara wala saha yudda wala divi gewapu ayage akalpa mema agam wala ta godak balapala thiyenawa.
mewaye base thama
1- dewa wadaya (dewiyek innawa kiyana eka--Allah/ god)
2- prachandathwaya yam tharamakata anumatha kireema
3- thirisan sathunta wada minisa usas.. e nisa satthu merima kamak nehe kiyala.
4- pawata athi bayak nehe. Mokada maranen passe yanne swaragayata hari,, Allah langata kiyala vishwasa karanawa
Egypt wala eka muslim festival ekakata relawal pitin eluwan ge beli kapala maranawa mama dekka...
kohoma unath buddhism wala thiyena awihinsa wadaya e agam wala nehe...
E agam thunema samanatha bohomai....hariyata ekama thenakin patan gatthawage
uhox said:
Ahata Peynadey vitharak hari kiyala hithanna Eppa A'gana A'aagamwala kiyanney Mokadda kiyana 1th Hoyala balanna... Mehema kiyanna kalin...
.... O'wa katha karanna Eppa mokada oya samaharun balanney Kohenkaata hari Gahala waraddak kiyala Eyala Hari Anith Aya Okkoma Waradi Kiyannai.... Dan Api Oya Kathawa Nawaththamu...uhox said:
hay all u fuckers thinking that buddist is a gretest religon
yo whats up niggas, u all fuckers are thinking that buddist religon is the gretast religon in the world, altest u cant reach with tamil. but y u all fuckers insult to chrstian and muslim
mind ur worlds when ur posting
this admin will never take carea bout this or what. stupids!!!!!!!!
when ur posting u guys dont have a rights to talking about religons
yo whats up niggas, u all fuckers are thinking that buddist religon is the gretast religon in the world, altest u cant reach with tamil. but y u all fuckers insult to chrstian and muslim
mind ur worlds when ur posting
this admin will never take carea bout this or what. stupids!!!!!!!!
when ur posting u guys dont have a rights to talking about religons
skystar said:
Not so Chap., each and every one has the right to talk about any religion they want just as well you have right to follow any of which as same. If you do not agree with one's views, either contest it or neglect it.
Thought I do not understand 80% of which was written here, I agree with Gastly on most of his points.At the end of the day, he's a Muslim, so what he writes has the tendency to be biased., so what ever you take in., make sure you don't look through coloured glasses.
On the question of religion, I ran into an interesting point some time ago. I would like gastly if you can shed some light into this.
As you see, except for few, all most all the major religions which people follow at present, have emerged during the last two thousand years and surprisingly all are revolved around the geographical continent of South- South east Asia.
Though I am a Christian my self, I have this weired feeling that all these religions are broken down by one religion at large. And my 2 cents are at Buddhism. Taking out all the bull crap about GODs both in Quaran & Bible., you will be surprised to see how much it is similar to the core of Buddhism.
Now here's the catch. I was taught that Buddhist monks were ordered to spread the Buddhist vision after 300 years of Buddha's dismissal. And it is the same time around that both Christianity and Muslim emerged.
In the bible we are taught that Christ was a yellow robed man who preached a new way of living and forgiving for the Roman slaves.
and to make things interesting the word "Allah" is said to be broken down from the word "ARAHATH" of Buddhist monks Because Araibian people cannot pronounce the dialect "RAH" hm, and yes, Halal, was invented to keep the meat from rotting in hot desert climate.
By draining the blood out of an animal without chopping it head off will make sure the moisture within the animal body will be drained out and in-turn will help to preserve the meat for a longer period of time. NO such GOD or ALLAH in that theory as I see it.
watch ur words manudaraumd said:minissu hada gaththa agama minissunma wenas kara ganna eka ahanndath deyakda bun ?
Muslims la kiyanne machan ee satha wada widinne nathuwa eka paratama maruwama Halal kiyala
ee para mama ahuwa fish wala ee wage problem ekak nadda kiyala
nahalu
mama ahuwa maalu daelakata hari nathnam bili piththakata hari ahu wunama un kochchara wada widalada marenne kiyala
ee para uu kiyanawa pothe kiyala thiyanne ohoma thamalu
ee para mama ahuwa fish wala ee wage problem ekak nadda kiyala
nahalu
mama ahuwa maalu daelakata hari nathnam bili piththakata hari ahu wunama un kochchara wada widalada marenne kiyala
ee para uu kiyanawa pothe kiyala thiyanne ohoma thamalu
Why bother about the religions... ??????
All the religions tell us to do the correct thing....
Neither tell us to kill people, rob others, tell lies... etc.. aint it..??
So whats the point of talking about a concept called religions.
I never was a catholic by my knowledge, Nabil or Fazal isn't a Musalman by their knowledge, Rapa and my girl dint become buddhists by their knowledge...
We all got our religions by our parents... and they all tell us to do the correct thing...
After referring the bible I realised catholic is the best, but after I meet my girl friend I used to read buddhist stuff as well. The only I realised all are almost same... Islam is also another religion.. that's it..
No point talking about their rituals and stuff... its their choice.
All the religions tell us to do the correct thing....
Neither tell us to kill people, rob others, tell lies... etc.. aint it..??
So whats the point of talking about a concept called religions.
I never was a catholic by my knowledge, Nabil or Fazal isn't a Musalman by their knowledge, Rapa and my girl dint become buddhists by their knowledge...
We all got our religions by our parents... and they all tell us to do the correct thing...
After referring the bible I realised catholic is the best, but after I meet my girl friend I used to read buddhist stuff as well. The only I realised all are almost same... Islam is also another religion.. that's it..
No point talking about their rituals and stuff... its their choice.
guyz lets stop being racists.. watever muslim , budhist, tamil or hindu here at elakiri v r one community.. so lets act as 1..
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