Large Hadron Collider down for 2 months

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GENEVA, Switzerland (AP) -- The world's largest atom smasher, which was launched with great fanfare earlier this month, is more badly damaged than previously thought and will be out of commission for at least two months, its operators said Saturday.


Experts have gone into the 17-mile (27-kilometer) circular tunnel housing the Large Hadron Collider under the Swiss-French border to examine the damage that halted operations about 36 hours after its September 10 startup, said James Gillies, spokesman for CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

"It's too early to say precisely what happened, but it seems to be a faulty electrical connection between two magnets that stopped superconducting, melted and led to a mechanical failure and let the helium out," Gillies said.

Gillies said the sector that was damaged will have to be warmed well above the absolute zero temperature used for operations so repairs can be made, a time-consuming process.

"A number of magnets raised their temperature by around 100 degrees," Gillies said. "We have now to warm up the whole sector in a controlled manner before we can actually go in and repair it."

The $10 billion particle collider, in the design and construction stages for more than two decades, is the world's largest atom smasher. It fires beams of protons from the nuclei of atoms around the tunnels at nearly the speed of light.

It then causes the protons to collide, revealing how the tiniest particles were first created after the "big bang," which many theorize was the massive explosion that formed the stars, planets and everything else.

Gillies said such failures occur frequently in particle accelerators, but it was made more complicated in this case because the Large Hadron Collider operates at near absolute zero, colder than outer space, for maximum efficiency.

"When they happen in our other accelerators, it's a matter of a couple of days to fix them," Gillies said. "But because this is a superconducting machine and you've got long warmup and cool-down periods, it means we're going to be off for a couple of months."

He said it would take "several weeks minimum" to warm up the sector.

"Then we can fix it," Gillies said. "Then we cool it down again."

CERN announced Thursday that it had shut down the collider a week ago after a successful startup that had beams of protons circling in both clockwise and counterclockwise directions in the collider.

It was at first thought the failure of an electrical transformer that handles part of the cooling was the problem, CERN said. That transformer was replaced last weekend, and the machine was lowered back to operating temperature to prepare for a resumption of operations.

But then more inspections were needed, and it was determined that the problem was worse than initially thought, said Gillies.

The CERN experiments with the particle collider hope to reveal more about "dark matter," antimatter and possibly hidden dimensions of space and time. They could also find evidence of a hypothetical particle -- the Higgs boson -- which is sometimes called the "God particle" because it is believed to give mass to all other particles and thus to matter that makes up the universe.

Smaller colliders have been used for decades to study the makeup of the atom. Scientists once thought protons and neutrons were the smallest components of an atom's nucleus, but experiments have shown that protons and neutrons are made of quarks and gluons and that there are other forces and particles.

The LHC provides much greater power than earlier colliders.

Its start came over the objections of some who feared that the collision of protons could imperil the Earth by creating micro black holes, subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars.
 

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down for 2 months??...dats a loong tym..
thanks for de info...
i thought dis experiment was successful!!
 

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psyche said:

2 decades of hard work, close to US $10 B and a propensity to trigger utter havoc didn't bargain for such a failure.
When it was powered up mistakes or failures were literally unacceptable.

well..u're right, but there are thngs which sciencistz cant preview
.the power of the collider is unbelievble..
It's not so easy to handle such a stuff..lol
 

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aye_sha90 said:
well..u're right, but there are thngs which sciencistz cant preview
.the power of the collider is unbelievble..
It's not so easy to handle such a stuff..lol
well it is now more than clear that there could be more uncertainties and if they are still trying to go ahead with their magical journey in finding the god particle it'll be due to sheer stupidity and nothing else.
 

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psyche said:
well it is now more than clear that there could be more uncertainties and if they are still trying to go ahead with their magical journey in finding the god particle it'll be due to sheer stupidity and nothing else.


This is science..nothing based on religion!

Science and the new technolgy permit us to find out lot of unknown stuff. Well, true that this is disappointing..But that's what we must accept. They cant stop the experiments now! :)
They thought that this will produce the elusive Higgs boson.
They want to find the answers to few questions...
We'll see wot's gonna happen :)
 

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aye_sha90 said:
This is science..nothing based on religion!

Science and the new technolgy permit us to find out lot of unknown stuff. Well, true that this is disappointing..But that's what we must accept. They cant stop the experiments now! :)
They thought that this will produce the elusive Higgs boson.
They want to find the answers to few questions...
We'll see wot's gonna happen :)
you know something even I too was a big fan of this experiment and was highly supportive to it but this aint like those small scale lab experiments which you can forgive and say "ohh we'll try again and again till we get it right" during trial and error. They are more than aware of the high risk factors involved and they cannot surely ignore them.

Well lets see there are so many cases going against CERN to this day to cease the experiment. With such failures occuring from like the start itself I dont know how CERN will face them.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103654

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104831
 
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