Let There Be NO Compulsion in Religion

[sri_lion]

to god concept to be acceptable I believe we must be inside a software like in the matrix film. So that he can control every thing as he wishes.

Exactly! but still the we can think against GOD concept which means his software is buggy... which means the creator is not perfect... so can we actually say "God knows best?"

 

[henderson]

Exactly! but still the we can think against GOD concept which means his software is buggy... which means the creator is not perfect... so can we actually say "God knows best?"

I agree.

 

[madurax86]

regarding Karma ..
To say that karma is a law that works by itself would be even more illogical than to claim that the laws of a country function of their own accord, with no-one to enforce them.

Imagine that the billions of people who have so far lived on this earth are to be given another life in which they will receive the just reward for whatever they have done. In that case,

who will observe how they behave while on earth? Who will decide whether they are good or bad? And who will decide on and arrange their next life in accordance with what they have done in this? If the life we have in our next incarnation depends on what we do in our present life, there must be some power that determines and plans our fate.
But in this case u say no no one is involved !!!

In karmic philosophy, however, there is no power of this kind. According to this vague and irrational belief, all of this happens by itself.

Moreover, it is also believed that this "law of karma"treats people justly and gives them the full and exact reward for their actions without overlooking anything or making mistakes, although this "law" has in fact no power to make decisions or judgements.

These are highly superstitious claims that any intelligent person will, if they give the matter any thought, immediately understand to be illogical.

LOLs hehe
here is another point where Buddhism is different than other religions - Buddhism looks in to YOU only your mind not other stuff, karma result is given by yourself thats what is happening, its hard to think about but its true. you are the person who is deciding for yourself where you'll be going after death. The only problem is that at death point - a few minutes earlier(according to Buddhism) you loose total control to ur senses and your mind goes out of your control ..and things you did good or bad project infront of you at that time. At the actual point where someone dies the next life is decided by the last projection that you saw may it be good or bad your life is decided on that, thats why Buddha asked his followers to keep the odds right by doing more good so that you'd see more good things our memory too works with the mind thats why hypnotized people talk about things they never learnt about on the current life

the things you do/think to do (good or bad) isnt the only thing that causes things to happen in life, even the gravity of the moon affects creatures living on earth so you cant say that everything is done by karma ..but its inside you it can lead you to failure..a major one

http://www.basicbuddhism.org/index.cfm?GPID=54
http://mubss.blogspot.com/2006/06/niyama-dharma-in-buddhism.html

 

[madurax86]

to god concept to be acceptable I believe we must be inside a software like in the matrix film. So that he can control every thing as he wishes.

yea and it should NOT run on an OS like windows!
check out this
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349

 

[3.5G]

I already told you what's my point of view and who I am!



I don't believe... and even if GOD existed GOD has no impact on where the human life leads..

I do believe in Darvin's Theory of evolution!

I din ask u about GOD concept

yes for both, deviyo are creatures too but they have certain weaknesses and strengths compared to humans. But i dont believe that some god or deviyek bulit the universe or earth- you know the universe is expanding so to expand it need a starting force scientists explain it with "big bang theory" if some made the universe in a still position, who gave it the starting force?
Darwin's theory has enough proof to believe that its true so i do believe it, and it doesnt interfear with Buddhism either its said in Buddhism that creatures evolve to their environment.

this popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass. Some say there first was a void or ’nothingness’, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing'(Super Logic ) concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.


I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:

A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..

Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is:

An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair... and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp...

He further explains that:

An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth?...

Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that:

A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts?...

Wait... there's more to this one:

It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor?...

Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"! He says:

You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert?...

AND...

No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten?...

Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?"

Of course not!

We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.

Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

 

[ChuttaFX]

Exactly! but still the we can think against GOD concept which means his software is buggy... which means the creator is not perfect... so can we actually say "God knows best?"

100% I agree with u.
If a god control this universe, why can't he make us happy always ?

 

[madurax86]

I din ask u about GOD concept




this popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass. Some say there first was a void or ’nothingness’, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing'(Super Logic ) concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.


I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:

A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..

Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is:

An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair... and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp...

He further explains that:

An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth?...

Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that:

A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts?...

Wait... there's more to this one:

It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor?...

Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"! He says:

You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert?...

AND...

No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten?...

Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?"

Of course not!

We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.

Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

just a copy from http://scienceislam.com eh? hehe yes true that they should object these theories after all some god believers even tried(and achieved success in) to kill scientists who discovered earth was going around the sun! Gallio was one..and nicolus copernicus - as i remember go google for "scientists killed on the name of religion" this thing is like that too its just a theory for now after experiments with the hadron collider they'd publish with enough proof that how it all began BUT theres absolutely NO probability in what so ever to FIND OUT that some GOD created all this. If god made all this why did he want us to suffer, or if u tell that we arent suffering why does the animals suffer?? why did he made 3 worlds(heaven,earth, hell) instead of one(cant it all be in one place)?

DNA Shows Human-Ape Links, Differences
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4826786

 

[henderson]

I din ask u about GOD concept




this popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass. Some say there first was a void or ’nothingness’, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing'(Super Logic ) concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.


I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:

A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..

Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is:

An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair... and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp...

He further explains that:

An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth?...

Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that:

A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts?...

Wait... there's more to this one:

It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor?...

Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"! He says:

You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert?...

AND...

No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten?...

Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?"

Of course not!

We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.

Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

Then just explain how the GOD created? He cannot be also created by some explosion or he cannot be existed forever. Somehow he also got to be created even before the birth of universe. God is complicated than anything existing in the universe if god exists according to his capabilities.

 

[3.5G]

Then just explain how the GOD created? He cannot be also created by some explosion or he cannot be existed forever. Somehow he also got to be created even before the birth of universe. God is complicated than anything existing in the universe if god exists according to his capabilities.

I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

I din ask u about GOD concept Mr.henderson and u don't agree with the "GOD created us theory " so stop talking about GOD and come to the point the question I ask is
how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

just a copy from http://scienceislam.com eh? hehe yes true that they should object these theories after all some god believers even tried(and achieved success in) to kill scientists who discovered earth was going around the sun! Gallio was one..and nicolus copernicus - as i remember go google for "scientists killed on the name of religion" this thing is like that too its just a theory for now after experiments with the hadron collider they'd publish with enough proof that how it all began BUT theres absolutely NO probability in what so ever to FIND OUT that some GOD created all this. If god made all this why did he want us to suffer, or if u tell that we arent suffering why does the animals suffer?? why did he made 3 worlds(heaven,earth, hell) instead of one(cant it all be in one place)?

DNA Shows Human-Ape Links, Differences
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4826786

Not "just a copy " this is a pure copy from scienceislam.com

Now answer my question with ur so-called logic

this popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass. Some say there first was a void or ’nothingness’, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing'(Super Logic ) concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.


I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:

A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..

Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is:

An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair... and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp...

He further explains that:

An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth?...

Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that:

A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts?...

Wait... there's more to this one:

It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor?...

Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"! He says:

You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert?...

AND...

No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten?...

Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?"

Of course not!

We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.

Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

 

[sri_lion]

Not "just a copy " this is a pure copy from scienceislam.com

Your source itself is a Islamic source and then you say... this.. \/\/

I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

and you conveniently left out the this portion of the same article!!!

Islam tells us Allah is both The Creator & The Evolver, of all that exits. We know Allah did not evolve us from monkeys, and we know all things are from Allah. Please share this information with those who deny the existence of God. They need it.

Now your own statement of Religious emotions blah.. blah.. is contradicting isn't it? So be honest and accept what you believe!!

Anyway..... Now the thread is becoming a science thread...

this popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass. Some say there first was a void or ’nothingness’, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing'(Super Logic ) concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.

If there are gases and solid mass then how could there be nothing? even your body consists the same composition gases and solid mass!!

What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:

A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..

Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is:

An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair... and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp...

He further explains that:

An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth?...

Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that:

A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts?...

Wait... there's more to this one:

It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor?...

Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"! He says:

You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert?...

AND...

No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten?...

Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?"

Of course not!

We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.

Nice try... These "what if" theories of yours are like god... you can put them anywhere you like... I can simply answer "what if it isn't"?

Anyway the Cars, Chairs, Computers, Burgers etc. all the things you've mentioned here are creation of humans, so the ultimate question is how the beings were created? The author of the article that you copied from has conveniently ignored the process of life

As it seems, Life did not began just after BIG BANG, It took billions of years.. now compare a process of billions of years to the examples you've given... to me it feels like a joke.. the logic is not even in his example so what can we expect from the example itself

Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?[/B]

Ok! If you cannot accept the *peeping tom's* theory, lets hear what you can accept... what do you think has happened? How did universe created? because science with modern laws of physics and chemistry can only go as far as they allow them to... it seems this author and you have seen or believe more than that.. so what's your take?

If what you say is logical then I will agree with you.. definitely!!

 

[henderson]

I din ask u about GOD concept Mr.henderson and u don't agree with the "GOD created us theory " so stop talking about GOD and come to the point the question I ask is
how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

Ok, Mr 3.5G the issue is just imagine for a minute that I decided to reject the theory of big bang and all created by a large explosion. Now what concepts do I left? It's god concept right? If it can be accepted I would accept it, however the issue is it cannot be accepted even if the big bang theory is accepted. It's just choices. And again still no body had proved any of those concepts are wrong, so I would simply stick to the concept that makes more sense to me.

 

[madurax86]

Ok, Mr 3.5G the issue is just imagine for a minute that I decided to reject the theory of big bang and all created by a large explosion. Now what concepts do I left? It's god concept right? If it can be accepted I would accept it, however the issue is it cannot be accepted even if the big bang theory is accepted. It's just choices. And again still no body had proved any of those concepts are wrong, so I would simply stick to the concept that makes more sense to me.

You sure that GOD concept hasnt been proven wrong ? LOL

 

[madurax86]

I din ask u about GOD concept Mr.henderson and u don't agree with the "GOD created us theory " so stop talking about GOD and come to the point the question I ask is
how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?


Not "just a copy " this is a pure copy from scienceislam.com

Now answer my question with ur so-called logic

this popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass. Some say there first was a void or ’nothingness’, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing'(Super Logic ) concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.


I would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:

A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..

Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is:

An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair... and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp...

He further explains that:

An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth?...

Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that:

A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts?...

Wait... there's more to this one:

It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor?...

Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"! He says:

You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert?...

AND...

No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten?...

Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?"

Of course not!

We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.

Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then... 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?

when talking about science please dont use religious resources, because they dont know much about what they are talking about..they know about the religion so the science part is left to others like people from universities, researchers and scientists. And scienceislam.com has major faults they say that darwin was wrong when he talked about Apes and Humans and about evolution i've given you links to science sites that talk about this from a scientific background which is logical DNA can be different about 30% in two flies that belong to the same species...so theres no point of arguing about DNA difference between Apes and Humans ...even DNA of two humans can differ drastically too. But the difference is low when compared with the average characteristics they say its about 98% similar...

Speaking of Charles Darwin, he was only an armature naturalist and had only observed the finches (birds) on the Galapagos Islands for the first time in the mid 1850s. He noticed that on each island the birds had different shaped beaks according to the type of food available on their particular island. For this reason, he assumed, the birds had progressed over millions of years and only the hardiest of the species had survived the climate and vegetation changes. However, this is totally inaccurate and was dismissed as a mere humor in a TV series on the educational channel in October of 1998. According to the scientists’ discoveries in that very same year, the effects of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino, the climate on these same exact islands had drastically changed in a single year within a number of months. And to their surprise, the eggs of the finches on each island hatched open producing birds with beaks already altered to accommodate the changes of their environment.

The commentator even said this shoots Darwin's theory completely down and he laughed.

There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs* to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life. It worked, too - until his smoking caused him to die of cancer.

And may i ask about PIGS; islam says pigs are bad so i think this is a bad example on an Islamic site, thats pork inside his heart as of in Islam Pigs cant be used for things like this..if they dont eat pork because they say its full of diseases, why use it in his body then??!!

search the web and you'll find not only islamic sites but christian sites opposing these facts, if you want to oppose science get it from a non-religious perspective i gave you scientific links that talk about Buddhism not the other way around

 

[madurax86]

heres another unproven data of science included in scienceislam.com
http://scienceislam.com/quran_cerebrum.php

http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=378 - these are science blogs they dont talk about religions or anything like that, this article never says anything about that the forehead does the lying because lying is a complex thing to do, you have compare things with the past...memory starts to work ...you have to collect realtime info if needed ..senser controling should start to work... then collect all these info and make a logical lie...the left hemisphere should be used(it handles logical computations) then finally forehead might work for a few seconds just to turn it to language! ..thats all
is this guy lying or close to lying on all other 3 states other than resting???

These two articles have been randomly selected and im sure that if i select another article that will lead to a lie too so please refer scientific sites

 

[sirajstc]

jazaakallah Mr.sirajSTC
U hav added quranic verses jazaakallah

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[ela_eluwa120]

@3.5G

from you posts, I inferred that you are interested in Buddhism.

Buddhist friends in EK would be willing to help you
here.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441538

 

[3.5G]

yea I did study some but tx for ur concern
now no tym bro lil busy !

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yea I will get help when I have some time

 

[ela_eluwa120]

yea I did study some but tx for ur concern
now no tym bro lil busy !

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yea I will get help when I have some time

you are welcome

 

[sirajstc]

yea I did study some but tx for ur concern
now no tym bro lil busy !

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yea I will get help when I have some time

 

[aselagun]

http://swarnamali.blogspot.com/

http://swarnamali.blogspot.com/