Nibbana - Muslim point of view

[hafizsaad]

Nirvana (In eng Nibbana)
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In sramanic thought, Nirvana (Sanskrit: निर्वाण, Nirvāṇa; Sinhala: නිර්වාණය; Tamil: நிர்வணா; Pali: निब्बान, Nibbāna; Prakrit: णिव्वाण; Thai: นิพพาน, Nípphaan) is the state of being free from suffering. It is an important concept in Buddhism and Jainism.

"Nibbāna" is a Pāli word that means "blowing out" — that is, blowing out the fires of greed, hatred, and delusion.[1]

Nirvana in sutra is never conceived of as a place (such as one might conceive heaven), but rather the antinomy of samsara (see below) which itself is synonymous with ignorance (avidyā, Pāli avijjā). This said:
"'the liberated mind (citta) that no longer clings' means Nibbāna" (Majjhima Nikaya 2-Att. 4.68).

Nirvāna is meant specifically - as pertains gnosis - that which ends the identity of the mind (citta) with empirical phenomena. Doctrinally Nibbāna is said of the mind which "no longer is coming (bhava) and going (vibhava)", but which has attained a status in perpetuity, whereby "liberation (vimutta) can be said".

It carries further connotations of stilling, cooling, and peace. The realizing of nirvana is compared to the ending of avidyā (ignorance) which perpetuates the will (cetana) into effecting the incarnation of mind into biological or other form passing on forever through life after life (samsara). Samsara is caused principally by craving and ignorance (see dependent origination). A person can attain nirvana without dying. When a person who has realized nirvana dies, his death is referred as parinirvāṇa (Pali: parinibbana), his fully passing away, as his life was his last link to the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara), and he will not be reborn again. Buddhism holds that the ultimate goal and end of samsaric existence (of ever "becoming" and "dying" and never truly being) is realization of nirvana; what happens to a person after his parinirvāṇa cannot be explained, as it is outside of all conceivable experience. Through a series of questions, Sariputta brings a monk to admit that he cannot pin down the Tathagata as a truth or reality even in the present life, so to speculate regarding the ontological status of an arahant after death is not proper.[9

what islam says about matters like Nibaanna

it is fact islam give the complete idea about every aspect of life...
To my search two things have some but very low ressemblance with this nirvana concept...

The etenal reward after success in the test of this life by allah ,the peaceful life after death related to the immortality of the soul. Heaven is generally construed as a place of happiness, sometimes eternal happiness where there will no fires of greed, hatred, and delusion etc.

the next is "Zikr Of Allah"

Dhikr (Arabic): "Remembrance [of God]" throught repition of his name, reading Quran and remembrance in every place of life.
some of the benefits of zikr are :

1) Zikr keeps away the Satan and weakens his strength.

2) It is the cause of Almighty Allah's pleasure.

3) It relieves the mind of anxieties and worries.

4) It produces joy and happiness in the heart.

5) it strengthens the body and mind.

6) It brightens the face and heart.

7) It attracts one's susistence.

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[Y2K]

Nirvana (In eng Nibbana)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


In sramanic thought, Nirvana (Sanskrit: निर्वाण, Nirvāṇa; Sinhala: නිර්වාණය; Tamil: நிர்வணா; Pali: निब्बान, Nibbāna; Prakrit: णिव्वाण; Thai: นิพพาน, Nípphaan) is the state of being free from suffering. It is an important concept in Buddhism and Jainism.

"Nibbāna" is a Pāli word that means "blowing out" — that is, blowing out the fires of greed, hatred, and delusion.[1]

Nirvana in sutra is never conceived of as a place (such as one might conceive heaven), but rather the antinomy of samsara (see below) which itself is synonymous with ignorance (avidyā, Pāli avijjā). This said:
"'the liberated mind (citta) that no longer clings' means Nibbāna" (Majjhima Nikaya 2-Att. 4.68).

Nirvāna is meant specifically - as pertains gnosis - that which ends the identity of the mind (citta) with empirical phenomena. Doctrinally Nibbāna is said of the mind which "no longer is coming (bhava) and going (vibhava)", but which has attained a status in perpetuity, whereby "liberation (vimutta) can be said".

It carries further connotations of stilling, cooling, and peace. The realizing of nirvana is compared to the ending of avidyā (ignorance) which perpetuates the will (cetana) into effecting the incarnation of mind into biological or other form passing on forever through life after life (samsara). Samsara is caused principally by craving and ignorance (see dependent origination). A person can attain nirvana without dying. When a person who has realized nirvana dies, his death is referred as parinirvāṇa (Pali: parinibbana), his fully passing away, as his life was his last link to the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara), and he will not be reborn again. Buddhism holds that the ultimate goal and end of samsaric existence (of ever "becoming" and "dying" and never truly being) is realization of nirvana; what happens to a person after his parinirvāṇa cannot be explained, as it is outside of all conceivable experience. Through a series of questions, Sariputta brings a monk to admit that he cannot pin down the Tathagata as a truth or reality even in the present life, so to speculate regarding the ontological status of an arahant after death is not proper.[9

what islam says about matters like Nibaanna

it is fact islam give the complete idea about every aspect of life...
To my search two things have some but very low ressemblance with this nirvana concept...

The etenal reward after success in the test of this life by allah ,the peaceful life after death related to the immortality of the soul. Heaven is generally construed as a place of happiness, sometimes eternal happiness where there will no fires of greed, hatred, and delusion etc.

the next is "Zikr Of Allah"

Dhikr (Arabic): "Remembrance [of God]" throught repition of his name, reading Quran and remembrance in every place of life.
some of the benefits of zikr are :

1) Zikr keeps away the Satan and weakens his strength.

2) It is the cause of Almighty Allah's pleasure.

3) It relieves the mind of anxieties and worries.

4) It produces joy and happiness in the heart.

5) it strengthens the body and mind.

6) It brightens the face and heart.

7) It attracts one's susistence.

.

Ok but Who create this Nirvana theory? I think it should be like this ... Nirvana is the Ultemate End of suffering free from everything if you realise it your our gone (Extinguise) If you dont want to B'live in God . Allah or God has given you a another small chance to set you free.

Lord Buddha Can't be wrong ...his job is to teach how to set you free from this way rather than B'live in God



Wht do you think?

 

[Y2K]

Well Said

Hey man how could you say well said?

Hey Bro I do B'live in God ....but As far as I know Buddism is the most Woderful pholosophy in the world ..... BEst teacher world has ever had

I have read Buddism and I know their point of view

I know for sure God Can't be wrong , Lord Bhuddha Either

so I need some Justification .....

 

[hafizsaad]

Ok but Who create this Nirvana theory? I think it should be like this ... Nirvana is the Ultemate End of suffering free from everything if you realise it your our gone (Extinguise) If you dont want to B'live in God . Allah or God has given you a another small chance to set you free.

Lord Buddha Can't be wrong ...his job is to teach how to set you free from this way rather than B'live in God



Wht do you think?

i have search this theory but found athentic material in wikipedia if you want to know more search it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

in my search in budhism

Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in place of God. However this could not satisfy the craving of human beings and the religion of self-help had to be converted into a religion of promise and hope. The Hinayana sect could not hold out any promise of external help to the people. The Mahayana sect taught that Buddha’s watchful and compassionate eyes are on all miserable beings, thus making a God out of Buddha.
Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and male and female. The ‘Man-God’ appears on earth in human form and incarnates from time to time.
Further, in Theravada Buddhism, there are no lands or heavens where a being is guaranteed nirvana, instead he can attain nirvana within a very short time, though nothing conclusive could be said about the effort required for that. In this sense therefore, there is no equivalent of the Mahayana "Pure Land" or magical abode of Buddhas where one is guaranteed to be enlightened.

Buddhism is usually considered a religion, but is also commonly described as a "spiritual philosophy", because it generally lacks an Absolute creator god. The Buddhist approach is clinical and systematic. In the Four Noble Truths, the Buddha analyzed the problem of suffering, diagnosed its root cause and prescribed a method to dispel suffering.Mean it only give the solution through its theory how to make your life happy on earth and how to attain physical and mental health in this life
Buddha was once asked by a disciple whether God exists? He refused to reply. When pressed, he said that if you are suffering from a stomach ache would you concentrate on relieving the pain or studying the prescription of the physician. "It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world".


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[RitigalaJayasena]

i have search this theory but found athentic material in wikipedia if you want to know more search it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

in my search in budhism

Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in place of God. However this could not satisfy the craving of human beings and the religion of self-help had to be converted into a religion of promise and hope. The Hinayana sect could not hold out any promise of external help to the people. The Mahayana sect taught that Buddha’s watchful and compassionate eyes are on all miserable beings, thus making a God out of Buddha.
Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and male and female. The ‘Man-God’ appears on earth in human form and incarnates from time to time.
Further, in Theravada Buddhism, there are no lands or heavens where a being is guaranteed nirvana, instead he can attain nirvana within a very short time, though nothing conclusive could be said about the effort required for that. In this sense therefore, there is no equivalent of the Mahayana "Pure Land" or magical abode of Buddhas where one is guaranteed to be enlightened.

Buddhism is usually considered a religion, but is also commonly described as a "spiritual philosophy", because it generally lacks an Absolute creator god. The Buddhist approach is clinical and systematic. In the Four Noble Truths, the Buddha analyzed the problem of suffering, diagnosed its root cause and prescribed a method to dispel suffering.Mean it only give the solution through its theory how to make your life happy on earth and how to attain physical and mental health in this life
Buddha was once asked by a disciple whether God exists? He refused to reply. When pressed, he said that if you are suffering from a stomach ache would you concentrate on relieving the pain or studying the prescription of the physician. "It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world".


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Is this wiki
no man this from ur islamic site call
www.islamawareness.net/Buddhism/gautam.html
they cant see the truth coz allah may trat them bad in decision day


here is the Buddhism in wiki

Buddhism (from the Pali/Sanskrit word Bodhi, "awakening"), as traditionally conceived, is a path of salvation attained through insight into the ultimate nature of reality.[2] It encompasses a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices, largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, commonly known as the Buddha. Adherents recognize the Buddha as an awakened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beingssuffering, achieve nirvana, and escape what is seen as a cycle of suffering and rebirth. However, Buddhist schools disagree over the historical teachings of the Buddha, and on the importance and canonicity of various scriptures. [3]
Two major branches of Buddhism are recognized: Theravada ("The School of the Elders") and Mahayana ("The Great Vehicle"). Theravada, the oldest surviving, has a widespread following in Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia, whilst Mahayana, which is found throughout East Asia, includes the traditions of Pure Land, Zen, Nichiren Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, Shingon, Tendai and Shinnyo-en . In some classifications, a third branch, Vajrayana, is recognized, although many see this as an offshoot of the Mahayana. Other movements have appeared in recent times, sometimes classified as Buddhist modernism.
While Buddhism remains most popular within Asia, both branches are now found throughout the world. Various sources put the number of Buddhists in the world at between 230 million and 500 million.[4][5][6][7]
The foundation of all Buddhist practice is ethical conduct and altruism. Further goals can vary widely, but may include renunciation, meditation, the cultivation of mindfulness and wisdom, the study of scriptures, physical exercises, devotion and ceremonies, or the invocation of bodhisattvas. end

 

[hafizsaad]

Is this wiki
no man this from ur islamic site
here is the Buddhism in wiki

my first reply is from wiki pedia, second reply is the conclusion after reading many authentic site and reading material.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

my first reply is from wiki pedia, second reply is the conclusion after reading many site and reading material.

Hey Mr. "genius",

Just stick to your pedophile religion Ok.
Dont go and speak about too hot stuff you cant handle.

You are a big joke here already.
Nirvana is called a Paramartha sathya - the absolute truth.

Islam ( as an ex-muslim I am speaking here) is for the simple uneducated gullibles.
Islam lacks the Philosophy or intellectual discourses whichBuddhism is enriched of'

So stick to your PEDOPHILE-FAIRY TALE bullshit.
No one needs your silly interpretations

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

Ok but Who create this Nirvana theory? I think it should be like this ... Nirvana is the Ultemate End of suffering free from everything if you realise it your our gone (Extinguise) If you dont want to B'live in God . Allah or God has given you a another small chance to set you free.

Lord Buddha Can't be wrong ...his job is to teach how to set you free from this way rather than B'live in God



Wht do you think?

What a lose cannon!

What a A class Moron! Go get some basic education!

 

[RitigalaJayasena]

my first reply is from wiki pedia, second reply is the conclusion after reading many authentic site and reading material.

you r pretending that u study abt Buddhism with many sites
but the truth is copy past it from
www.islamawareness.net/Buddhism/gautam.html
very funny

 

[hafizsaad]

Hey man how could you say well said?

Hey Bro I do B'live in God ....but As far as I know Buddism is the most Woderful pholosophy in the world ..... BEst teacher world has ever had

I know for sure God Can't be wrong , Lord Bhuddha Either

i also beleive in God and think the people that God has sent for the Guidance of Mankind are more perfect than any other person on the earth in every field of life..as these people has no teacher But Allah...Allah made them ideal for human being...
Problem is that Prophets teaching has been considered strickly to the religion only but in orginal that teaching are so comprehensive for every aspect of life as they were directly revealed from Allah "who know best"

 

[hafizsaad]

you r pretending that u study abt Buddhism with many sites
but the truth is copy past it from
www.islamawareness.net/Buddhism/gautam.html

the material i have posted i found more authentic and more concluding after reading many budhish book and other sites.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

the material i have posted i found more authentic and more concluding after reading many budhish book and other sites.

Yeah that may be true..considering your brain size

Stupids tend to agree with stupids

 

[hafizsaad]

What a lose cannon!

What a A class Moron! Go get some basic education!

Dont go and speak about too hot stuff you cant handle.

Nirvana is called a Paramartha sathya - the absolute truth.

Islam ( as an ex-muslim I am speaking here) is for the simple uneducated gullibles.

So stick to your PEDOPHILE-FAIRY TALE bullshit.
No one needs your silly interpretations

we never mind your words as all people know you are a confused, silly and ignorant boy...no religion...therefore no rules and regulation for life and unethical behaviour as your upper reply shows..
you have left islam and are remain without religion as true religion gives rule and regulation that are harmful for your desire .
people do not need for your these unethical and non rational comments...
you can not imposed your personal silly thought on any body...
people has their own thinking standard..
reality is clear...

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[Mononoke]

You islamic pundits keep yapping away saying nirvana is this, nirvana is that. Why haven't you responded to a simple request I had made some time ago. I'll post it again for your convenience. Although knowing how you chaps operate I'm not expecting an answer.

All the comparisons you have made so far have no connection to Buddhist philosophy. If you want to tie Buddhism with Islam you will have to propose Islamic parallels to the concepts of Anatama, Sunya and the Paticcasamuppāda. You also have to show how your religion rejects a mind body dualism.

 

[cmanimations]

Is this wiki
no man this from ur islamic site call
www.islamawareness.net/Buddhism/gautam.html
they cant see the truth coz allah may trat them bad in decision day


here is the Buddhism in wiki

අනේ මංදා... මේ හම්බ හැත්ත කොපි කරපු තැනත් උට අපි කියන්න ඕන...
ඒක මතකත් නෑ....
ඉතින් බුදු දහම වගෙ මොලේ පාවිච්චි කරල ධාරනය කරගත උතු ආගමක් ගැන මුන්ට කොහොම තෙරුම් කරන්නද.....

 

[RitigalaJayasena]

the material i have posted i found more authentic and more concluding after reading many budhish book and other sites.

Oh..seems you had study a lot
what are the books you read ?
the conclusion is wrong. so ur studies is worthless.
u must have a analytical mind 4 study Buddhism . that is why camels don't know about Buddhism .

if u still says that ur conclusion is correct. I will talk abt it.

 

[hafizsaad]

You islamic pundits keep yapping away saying nirvana is this, nirvana is that. Why haven't you responded to a simple request I had made some time ago. I'll post it again for your convenience. Although knowing how you chaps operate I'm not expecting an answer.

No connection your statements have with the current concept.we don't want to tie budhism with islam. islam has the clear difference with budhism in all way from the concept of GOd to the concept of Next life and day of judgement. either this statement you used in the thread Muhammad in Budhish scriptures: that threat aim is not to tie islam with budhism but to tell the budhish with proof that your religion scripture told you to follow Muhammad that had been come with sign your book shows......
if you have Question read that thread again....

Yeah that may be true..considering your brain size
Stupids tend to agree with stupids

people don't need for the comments of an atheist . a person without religion can never give good comments for a religion..
mind your own business....

 

[RitigalaJayasena]

people don't need for the comments of an atheist . a person without religion can never give good comments for a religion..
mind your own business....

If Muslim can comment about Buddhism
why a person without religion can never give good comments for a religion.???
R u thinking that ur giving good analytical comments abt nirvana

 

[hafizsaad]

If Muslim can comment about Buddhism
why a person without religion can never give good comments for a religion.???
R u thinking that ur giving good analytical comments abt nirvana

my statement for an athiest is correct.. you can read it again....
all athiest feel they are true and their aim is also to misliead other religious people so that they also incline towards their religion that is follow no one but your own desire...
my comments for budhism are not personal criticism ..they are reality , you can correcct my mistake.

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