Nivana (Attainable or Not ???)

kalyanamithra

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    kalyanamithra said:
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    Pinwath mithura,

    Menna "Upanisa Sutraya" matha padanam vu deshanavak.. pujya Kiribathgoda Gnanananda swamiwahanse visin karana lada deshanavak...

    http://www.gautamabuddha.ca/bana/sinhala/013_Upanisa_sutta.mp3

    Theruwan saranai!
     

    kalyanamithra

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    Y2K said:
    Gindara ............... machan api me dewal dannawane but why this is can not be done ? can you do it ? you might say you have to wait for years ........ but when ?
    Pinwath mithura,

    Because what we call 'self' is a deception... :)
    Is there any thing in your life you can keep forever under your control?
    That's why there's no eternal existence free from happiness...

    Stopping Paticcasamuppada needs a lot of control... which is gained by cultivating mindfulness, endeavor, concentration, etc. That's why it's difficult...

    The process for stopping this existence can span multiple lives... There's no hurry; moreover 'urgency' you seem to highlight has no physical meaning (it's something in our minds)... What practicing Buddhists have is 'appamada' - it's more or less dedication; not urgency...

    Critical part is entering the Path - i.e. becoming a Stream Entrant...
    It can be done; it has been done; and it is being done...

    But you will probably not be aware of it... one can never see Dhamma through others... (because Dhamma is not a faith to believe... it's something to be realized ourselves, gradually...)

    Dear friend, hope you'd realize how vain your attempt to compare Buddhism with Christianity religions...

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    uhox

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    me thread eka dala thiyena kena Buddhist kenek nowena bawa ohu asa athi prashna walin therenawa...Mokada Nirvanaya yanna Buddhist kenekuta amuthuwen pehedili kala yuthu nehe.....


    dewanuwa......Kalyanamithra ithamath hondin pehedili karala thiyenawa siyallama..

    Namuth mata pasuwa penuna vidiyata, Thread eka dapu kena e karala thiyena pehedili kireem wath hariyata care nokara " dewa wadee" tharkayema innawa...
    ehi aramuna kumak da?

    api ath vindapu deyak thama rate deshapalana arbuda samayedi Christian missionary balawega rate prashna wasiyata gena buddhism walata attack karanawa......

    mama kiyanne nehe ..bauddhagama gena dewal sanwadaya nokala yuthui kiyala...Namuth thread eke realistic nethuwa yanawa nam ethana mokak hari kossak :dull:
     
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    kalyanamithra

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    uhox said:
    Namuth thread eke realistic nethuwa yanawa nam ethana mokak hari kossak :dull:

    :yes: I think, I can agree with you...
    Let's make the discussion realistic! :)

    Let's try to figure out how Nibbana can be attained...

    Then we'll be answering the concern pinwath Y2K had raised... while helping one another in the Path...

    kalyanamithra said:
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    theruwan sarane pihitima...

    Apita ehema kivata Shraddhawa "ethi kara ganna" puluvan da?
    - Be? Ei beri?

    Ehema nam mehama balamu.. (Sakakya dhittiyen beherava)
    Shraddhawa "ethi venne" mokak karamada? Sharaddhawa ethi venne kohomada?

    Pinwath mithurani, "Upanisa Sutraya" esuren e gena mokuth kiyanna puluvan da?

    Vena sutrayak esuren vunath kamak ne; Shri Saddharmaya Swakkathai; koma pehedili karath ekineka gelapenava... :) (gelapenne nethnam e Dharmaya neme...)

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    mata hithenava, me jeevithaye dukak athi bava avaboda karaganna pudgalayekuta, eyata piliyam seveemata ganna uthsahayedi darmaya gena labana mana avabodaya nisa ema darmaya thama nuvanin soya denagena lokayata deshanaa kala e uthum shasthruvarayan vahanse pilibandava apramaana sraddavak nithathinma athi venava me mama shadrava athi karagattha vidiya

    sharaddava darmaya avabodayen athi vee darmaya pilibandava danuma vadivathma poshanaya vannak hatiyatai mama dakinne
    (samavenna me adahasa sakkaya dittiyen bahara ekak newei neda? )
     
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    kalyanamithra

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    sanu- said:
    mata hithenava, me jeevithaye dukak athi bava avaboda karaganna pudgalayekuta, eyata piliyam seveemata ganna uthsahayedi darmaya gena labana mana avabodaya nisa ema darmaya thama nuvanin soya denagena lokayata deshanaa kala e uthum shasthruvarayan vahanse pilibandava apramaana sraddavak nithathinma athi venava me mama shadrava athi karagatthavidiya

    sharaddava darmaya avabodayen athi vee darmaya pilibandava danuma vadivathma poshanaya vannak hatiyatai mama dakinne
    (samavenna me adahasa sakkaya dittiyen bahara ekak newei neda? )
    Pinwatha,

    Bohoma pin :)

    :yes: oba kiyana eka hari (mata therena vidihata)... :)
    Ekata api venath sutra valin (Avijja sutraye vage) igenagath deval ekathu karala balamu... thavath pehedili vei.. :)

    Jeevithaye duka dakina (thavama Dharmayaya nopemini) kenek eyata piliyam hoyanava...
    Eyata kalyanamithrayakugen shri saddharmaya asannata lebenava... :)
    Saddharmaya duka, dukata hethuwa, ein midma, e sandaha maga visthara karana heti adiya asa eya nuvanin vimasanna gannava...
    Ese vimasana vita Budurajananwajanse ge, Shri Sadhdharmaya ge, Arya Sanghaya ge guna eyata ismathu vi penenna gannava... eya e gena pehedimata pathvenva... ethakota 'shraddhawa ethi venava' :)

    ('ethi venva' kivoth sakkaya dhittiya mathu vanne; nethnam ne ne da... Mama veredi nam kiyanna... thava tikak vimasuvoth...)

    Shraddha mathrayak ho ethivena thuru eyata hithenne ne venada vidihen behera vi sithanna... Shraddhawa ethi vana vita eya pelabenava Dharmanukulava vada vada hithanna.... E kiyanne eya thula yoniso manasikaraya ethi venvava... e hinda vada vada yoniso manasikaraye yedenawa... :)

    (E hinda ne oba kiva vage Shraddhawa digatama poshanaya vanne... Ekane Shraddhawa indriyak lesa vedenne; eya bala dharmayak bavata path venne...)




    Pinwath mithurani,

    Hari, eyata shraddhawa ethi vuna...
    Ita passe mokada venne???



    Mata hithenava Avijja Sutraye methena vada pehediliva thiyenava kiyala...
    Methena deshanava thiyenawa ahala nethnam...
    http://www.gautamabuddha.org/downloads/Mp3/Avijja_Sutta..mp3

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    Y2K

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    its attainable....des are tlks f the once hu dosnt trust in buddhism!!!


    Have you seen any person ? I am still learning machan but lord buddhama kiyala tiyanawa kauruth kiyanawata mage dhahamma baraganna apa kiyala .... ubama nuwanin sitha bala meka harinum baraganna kiyala .................... ada uba Bhuddist wela inne mokada? ube parants la Bhuddist una nisai ......... ehema neda ? Nathuwa uba karunu karana hoyala baluwada? Real Bhuddist person will find the truth .....
     

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    Machan Kalyanamithura ube aramura yahapath .... Dharmaya gana api katha karanna ona .... mathaka tiyaganin mama me yaluwo ekka kisimawitak argue karanna yanne na ........ mata one prashnakirim ............. Danaganima thulin Asirimath Budu dahama gana danagannai ............. ada godak bawddayo namika baudayo witharai mewa gana katha karanne na ...... Panseleth dewala hadagena palsal yanne dewiyanta bara hara wennai ... namuth wada wadagath wanne Lord Buddha desu dahamai ............. dan dan api rate athiwila tiyana punurudaya hadai api okkoma ekathu wela saka durukara me sasaren egoda wemu
     

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    uhox said:
    me thread eka dala thiyena kena Buddhist kenek nowena bawa ohu asa athi prashna walin therenawa...Mokada Nirvanaya yanna Buddhist kenekuta amuthuwen pehedili kala yuthu nehe.....


    dewanuwa......Kalyanamithra ithamath hondin pehedili karala thiyenawa siyallama..

    Namuth mata pasuwa penuna vidiyata, Thread eka dapu kena e karala thiyena pehedili kireem wath hariyata care nokara " dewa wadee" tharkayema innawa...
    ehi aramuna kumak da?

    api ath vindapu deyak thama rate deshapalana arbuda samayedi Christian missionary balawega rate prashna wasiyata gena buddhism walata attack karanawa......

    mama kiyanne nehe ..bauddhagama gena dewal sanwadaya nokala yuthui kiyala...Namuth thread eke realistic nethuwa yanawa nam ethana mokak hari kossak :dull:

    Ow mama namika Bawddayek nemai malli ......................... I am Catholic , mage prashnayata uththara tiyenawa da ?
     

    kalyanamithra

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    Y2K said:
    Machan Kalyanamithura ube aramura yahapath .... Dharmaya gana api katha karanna ona .... mathaka tiyaganin mama me yaluwo ekka kisimawitak argue karanna yanne na ........ mata one prashnakirim ............. Danaganima thulin Asirimath Budu dahama gana danagannai ............. ada godak bawddayo namika baudayo witharai mewa gana katha karanne na ...... Panseleth dewala hadagena palsal yanne dewiyanta bara hara wennai ... namuth wada wadagath wanne Lord Buddha desu dahamai ............. dan dan api rate athiwila tiyana punurudaya hadai api okkoma ekathu wela saka durukara me sasaren egoda wemu
    Pinwath mithura,

    Oba godak bauddhayo gena kiyapu kathava hari...
    Eth thava godak innava methakadi niyama margayata pemini... E aya EK valath innava...

    Pinwatha, ohoma prashna karala Dharmaya hoyanna be... mokada e prashna vala pitupasa sekaya thiyena nisa...

    Aneka prashna karathdi sanyamayak thiyenna one ne da? Dharmaye hesirena aya thula eka thiyenna one... nethnam Dharmaya vedenne ne...

    Thawa ekaka nihathamani kama 100% avashyayi dharma margaye yana vita... nethnam lebenne denumak misak avabodhayak neme...

    Obe aramuna budu dahame kithu dahame samanathvayak sevima nam (kanagatui kiyanna) oba thula Dharmaya vedenne ne... obata lebenne denumak vitharai... avabodhayak neme... Oba thula Dharmaya vedenne eken dena visanudma hoyanna avankava kepavunoth vitharai...

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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    Y2K

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    uhox said:
    me thread eka dala thiyena kena Buddhist kenek nowena bawa ohu asa athi prashna walin therenawa...Mokada Nirvanaya yanna Buddhist kenekuta amuthuwen pehedili kala yuthu nehe.....


    dewanuwa......Kalyanamithra ithamath hondin pehedili karala thiyenawa siyallama..

    Namuth mata pasuwa penuna vidiyata, Thread eka dapu kena e karala thiyena pehedili kireem wath hariyata care nokara " dewa wadee" tharkayema innawa...
    ehi aramuna kumak da?

    api ath vindapu deyak thama rate deshapalana arbuda samayedi Christian missionary balawega rate prashna wasiyata gena buddhism walata attack karanawa......

    mama kiyanne nehe ..bauddhagama gena dewal sanwadaya nokala yuthui kiyala...Namuth thread eke realistic nethuwa yanawa nam ethana mokak hari kossak :dull:

    Putha mama hithanawa uba hoda Baudayek kiyala Mulinma me malayata kiyanna ona mama "Catholic " not Christians ......ubata therena widihata kiyanawanum oba Therawadi ne ....Mahayana Baudayek nemai ne ? ewage mamath oya kiyana missionariyek nemai e aya api tharaye hila dakinawa ...... machan mama Catholica unata mama podikale idalama pansalata udaw wela tiyenawa ...... mama wena ayawage nemai ban mata theruna Buddhism kiyanne prabalama Dahamak kiyala anna ekai mama Buddism dan study karanne ....but mama thama mission eka finish na .... mata ubalage wishwasayata garahana uneth na ..... machan mata witharak nemai samahara Buddist aya unath prarthana karanne Nirwanaya nemai milaga bawaya sarthaka karagannai ............... namuth mata hithenawa therenawa Ipadima samawitama dukak kiyala ithin Nirwanaya thamai ayata wisaduma kiyalath dannawa namuth oya athara thamai mata hithune appe mekatath kalpa ganak perupuranna wenawa neda kiyala ...................... ithin kohomai story eka machan mama wena agamaka unata mama anith ayatath kiyanna kamathie me ganath kiyawanna kiyala (Catholic , Muslims )
     

    kalyanamithra

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    Pinwath mithura,

    Api thula sowan venakan thiyena deyak thamai 'sakkaya dhittiya'...

    Oba e gena nodanna bavai penne.. Eka obe varadak neme :) ; mokada oba baudhayek novana nisa...

    Eka thamai oba asana prashna gena thiyena prashnaya... Api idiriyedi EK vala sakkaya dhittiya gena sakachcha karanava... Ethakota obata therei budu dahama gena denata vada... :)

    Theruwan saranai!
     

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    Kurunegala
    DONT LOOK DOWN ON BUDDHISM!
    EVERY RELIGION IS UNIQUE.
    ITS BETTER NOT TO CONTINUE THIS.
    YOU ARE GOING TO DESTORY ALL OUR FRIENDSHIPS HERE.
    PLEASE LEAVE OUR ELAKIRIANS ALONE. THEY HAVE PEACE.
    WE DONT NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN.
    LEAVE ELAKIRI NOW.
     

    kalyanamithra

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    hithune appe mekatath kalpa ganak perupuranna wenawa neda kiyala ...................... i
    Pinwath mithrua,

    Meka budu dahamata ethulu vu veredi adahasak... :)
    Parami puranna one Budu venna vitharai...
    Api buduvenna neme hadanne, Sharawakayan widihata margaya vadala Arahathvaya laba sasarin midenna... Ekata parami one ne :)

    Avasanavakata boho dena apatath parami one yeyi kiyanawa :) Mahayana matha piligena...

    Parami one ne kiyana eka vetahei mulika Buddha deshana hoya beluvoth...

    Mama Dharmaye puhunu vena kenek... therenne tikai...
    Eth oba Dharmaya gena avankava hoyanava nam kemethi udav karanna... uav kala heki aya muna gasvanna... :)
    Hebei mata sekai obe aramuna gena :(

    Theruwan saranai!
     
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