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Oh Shit... මේව මහ තිරිසන් වැඩ Circumcision of girls in Indonesia
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DONT BLAME ISLAM, BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVIATED FROM THE TEACHINGS OF IT
Female circumcision has been a very controversial issue for last few decades even among those who had been performing from former times. Apart from its scientific views lots of scholars have been intensely arguing the value and religious views of female circumcision.
In Islam, circumcision is considered to be ‘fitrah’ which means the natural character and instinctive temperament of human being.
It has been narrated by Abu Huraira (Radhiyallahu ‘anhu) that Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu ‘alayhi Wassallam) said, "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitrah: circumcision, shaving the pubic region, clipping the nails and cutting the moustaches short." [Sahih Al-Bukhari]
Circumcision has also been regarded as the sign of Islam; to the extent that if a dead body is found, the manner of verifying that he was a Muslim is to see if he’s circumcised.
Now before delving profound into the question of female circumcision, we would like to make it lucid that "female circumcision" means removing the prepuce of the clitoris which is situated above the opening of the urethra, not the clitoris itself. The Sunnah is not to remove all of it, but only a part.
Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah (Radhiyallahu ‘anha) narrates that a woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. [Sunan Abu Dawud]
"Circumcision is Sunnah for men, and it is an honour for women, but it is not obligatory for them.
وختان المرأة ليس سنة بل مكرمة للرجال وقيل سنة
( قوله وختان المرأة ) الصواب خفاض ، لأنه لا يقال في حق المرأة ختان وإنما خفاض حموي ( قوله بل مكرمة للرجال ) لأنه ألذ في الجماع زيلعي ( قوله وقيل سنة ) جزم به البزازي معللا بأنه نص على أن الخنثى تختن ، ولو كان ختانها مكرمة لم تختن الخنثى ، لاحتمال أن تكون امرأة ولكن لا كالسنة في حق الرجال ا هـ .
أقول : وختان الخنثى لاحتمال كونه رجلا ، وختان الرجل لا يترك فلذا كان سنة احتياطا ولا يفيد ذلك سنيته للمرأة تأمل
[Fatawa Raheemiyah Vol: 6 Pg: 261 (Darul Ishaa’at)]
Imam Ahmad bin Hambal (Rahmatullahi ‘alayhi) said: For men it is more strictly required, but for women it is less strictly required." [Al-Mughni by Ibn Qudamah (Rahmatullahi ‘alayhi)]
We conclude from aforesaid discussion that “female circumcision” will be regarded as Mustahab and Sunnah for the male.
FURTHER INFO : http://www.themuslimwoman.com/hygiene/femalecircumcision.htm
Female circumcision has been a very controversial issue for last few decades even among those who had been performing from former times. Apart from its scientific views lots of scholars have been intensely arguing the value and religious views of female circumcision.
In Islam, circumcision is considered to be ‘fitrah’ which means the natural character and instinctive temperament of human being.
It has been narrated by Abu Huraira (Radhiyallahu ‘anhu) that Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu ‘alayhi Wassallam) said, "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitrah: circumcision, shaving the pubic region, clipping the nails and cutting the moustaches short." [Sahih Al-Bukhari]
Circumcision has also been regarded as the sign of Islam; to the extent that if a dead body is found, the manner of verifying that he was a Muslim is to see if he’s circumcised.
Now before delving profound into the question of female circumcision, we would like to make it lucid that "female circumcision" means removing the prepuce of the clitoris which is situated above the opening of the urethra, not the clitoris itself. The Sunnah is not to remove all of it, but only a part.
Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah (Radhiyallahu ‘anha) narrates that a woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. [Sunan Abu Dawud]
"Circumcision is Sunnah for men, and it is an honour for women, but it is not obligatory for them.
وختان المرأة ليس سنة بل مكرمة للرجال وقيل سنة
( قوله وختان المرأة ) الصواب خفاض ، لأنه لا يقال في حق المرأة ختان وإنما خفاض حموي ( قوله بل مكرمة للرجال ) لأنه ألذ في الجماع زيلعي ( قوله وقيل سنة ) جزم به البزازي معللا بأنه نص على أن الخنثى تختن ، ولو كان ختانها مكرمة لم تختن الخنثى ، لاحتمال أن تكون امرأة ولكن لا كالسنة في حق الرجال ا هـ .
أقول : وختان الخنثى لاحتمال كونه رجلا ، وختان الرجل لا يترك فلذا كان سنة احتياطا ولا يفيد ذلك سنيته للمرأة تأمل
[Fatawa Raheemiyah Vol: 6 Pg: 261 (Darul Ishaa’at)]
Imam Ahmad bin Hambal (Rahmatullahi ‘alayhi) said: For men it is more strictly required, but for women it is less strictly required." [Al-Mughni by Ibn Qudamah (Rahmatullahi ‘alayhi)]
We conclude from aforesaid discussion that “female circumcision” will be regarded as Mustahab and Sunnah for the male.
FURTHER INFO : http://www.themuslimwoman.com/hygiene/femalecircumcision.htm
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Thawath COPY + PAST karayek
LMAO...why did you go to Indonesia....take all the pictures and write up this thread on your own.....
you copy pasted as well nimrod....
besides even if he did copy paste still doesn't change the facts.....there is no place in Islam for female circumcision.....these bastards just learn more ways to control their women....using lame hadiths like this...
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lol...i dunno whats with all these ppl.....
i ask for proof if this is in the Quran.....and nobody replies....yet are content to blame Islam for this....
Islam was the first religion to stop ppl from burying their female babies alive....
it was the first religion to give women the right for inheritance....
the first religion that asks women to be educated....
and the first religion to say men and women have different attributes but have equal rights....
heck it even asks men to still down then they go to the wash room on a No.01....
there are even more points like this.....
Islam nor Muslims cannot be responsible for the crazy actions of certain pplz.....
i ask for proof if this is in the Quran.....and nobody replies....yet are content to blame Islam for this....
Islam was the first religion to stop ppl from burying their female babies alive....
it was the first religion to give women the right for inheritance....
the first religion that asks women to be educated....
and the first religion to say men and women have different attributes but have equal rights....
heck it even asks men to still down then they go to the wash room on a No.01....
there are even more points like this.....
Islam nor Muslims cannot be responsible for the crazy actions of certain pplz.....
හම්බ කාලකන්න මහ ජරා ජාතියක්...!!! මොන හු*තක් කරනවද මන්දා ...!!! ගල් ගහල මරන්න ඕන මේ ප*යන්ව....!!!!
LMAO...that is coz Israel and its big brother america want you to think that way.....
so they hide the facts like Guantanamo bay prison....and other such stupidity done by ppl of other faiths...and focus on all the negative stuff done by stupid Muslims....
same thing the LTTE does for sri lanka in other countries like USA...England etc etc...where ppl believe sri lankans are devils' children....who rape and kill tamils for fun....
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Ibn Qudamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said, in his book al-Mughni: "Circumcision is obligatory for men, and it is an honour for women, but it is not obligatory for them.This is the opinion of many scholars. (Imam) Ahmad said: For men it is more strictly required, but for women it is less strictly required." (al-Mughni 1/70).
Circumcision of the female consists of the removal of a part of the clitoris, which is situated above the opening of the urethra. The Sunnah is not to remove all of it, but only a part. (al-Mawsu‘ah al-Fiqhiyyah 19/28).
In this matter, it is wise to follow the interests of the female: if the clitoris is large, then part of it should be removed, otherwise it should be left alone. This size of the clitoris will vary from woman to woman, and there may be differences between those from hot climates and those from cold climates.
A hadith on the topic of female circumcision has been attributed to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon Him), according to which he said: "Circumcision is a Sunnah for men, and an honour for women," but there is some debate as to the authenticity of this hadith. See Silsilah al-Ahadith al-Da‘ifah by al-Albani, no. 1935.
The scholars’ opinions cited above should be sufficient explanation. And Allah knows best
[FONT=Tahoma, Arial]No mention of female circumcision is to be found in the Qur'an either directly or indirectly. There is no known Hadeeth which requires female circumcision.[/FONT]
Clitoridectomy alone ensures a woman will never have an orgasm (this has been medically proved) is her right to full sexual pleasure is denied!! It is the same as removing the penis.
ubalage wade vtarak karagattama harida?
ubalage hamba gawrawe kawda ganan ganne
Clitoridectomy alone ensures a woman will never have an orgasm (this has been medically proved) is her right to full sexual pleasure is denied!! It is the same as removing the penis.
ubalage wade vtarak karagattama harida?
ubalage hamba gawrawe kawda ganan ganne
yes and we feel just as sorry for these girls.....but it has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims....
so WHY ARE YOU ASKING US.....AND BLAMING US/ISLAM FOR THIS?!!?......
did you ask/blame Buddhism/Buddhists when that guy threw a bomb at SRK's concert?!!?.....no?...why?.....same reason from us for this....
This is awaful!sick bastard!
If circumcision is so important why didn't god create circumcised men & women!
If circumcision is so important why didn't god create circumcised men & women!
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