One who kills get killed.... (Can Janaka Perera be an exception....? )

[kalanaweerlk]

"Chetana hang Bhikkawe kammang wadami"
Buddha said clearly.

Even an intention creats a karma for one.
Good and bad karma.
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Let us discuss Janaka's death in that context...
According to the 5 Niyama Dharma,Kamma is only one cause of five causes when something happens. But Kamma can come back to some one in 3 ways or will be desolved without results...
So Janaka's death 'could be' a result of the killings he did and ordered to kill while he was in army. Only a Buddha can tell if it is not. But sooner or later one has to pay for the Karmas one commits.

I don't know whether Buddha diferenciate or justified any killing whatsoever as not a sin... a bad karma... But many monks do justify... But for Buddha they are just Bhikkus... not Sangha. One has to become Sotapanna to be a part of Sangha.
This is a vicious circle... Not only the people who decided and killed Janaka and others but who rejoiced have commited a bad karma... If one kills someone as a result of a past Karma of the victim the murderer too comits the same bad karma.. and evryone who agrees with them.
In a past life Buddha rejoiced a bunch oh fish killed by some fishermen. It is said that it gave results even after he became the Buddha.
So... even if one becomes Samma Sambuddha one has to pay for the Karmas one commit.
I wonder how many of us unnecessarily takes part as Tamils or Sinhalese, in the mass killings which happened for 30+ years. Terrorists, Politicians and everybody who directly helps war gains something or the other....
By uplifting and rejoicing we indirectly create bad karma and eventually will pay, in this life or in a future life.
That is a natural law... So one can conclude that Janaka's death as natural...
One who kills get killed eventually. ?????????

U will get killed not because of your karma..
SHOW RESPECT TO OUR ARMY !!
U crazy?? What has happend to you??
U smoked dat shit again no

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

U will get killed not because of your karma..
SHOW RESPECT TO OUR ARMY !!
U crazy?? What has happend to you??
U smoked dat shit again no

Heh Heh Hey....
Acting in dwesha also a bad Karma... If you intend to kill that is enough to make a karma...
Chetana becomes the karma.

 

[nadeesha5814]

we have jaffna today thanx to this general think of the lives he has saved not the lives he has killed wat party he is in he is my hero that it..

 

[kalanaweerlk]

Heh Heh Hey....
Acting in dwesha also a bad Karma... If you intend to kill that is enough to make a karma...
Chetana becomes the karma.

Bro.. dis should go under Religious section
I'm a born buddhist but I have no clue of what your telling
Don't use your religion to express your views on these kinda topics..
U know where these kinda topics belongs to..
RECYCLE BIN

 

[y2j2]

Bro.. dis should go under Religious section
I'm a born buddhist but I have no clue of what your telling
Don't use your religion to express your views on these kinda topics..
U know where these kinda topics belongs to..
RECYCLE BIN

ANIWA

 

[kalanaweerlk]

ANIWA

Muta Mangnang bun

 

[y2j2]

Muta Mangnang bun

ow ow poddak oluwa awl wage monawa karannada paw kolla
ohoma ewnuth inna epai me loke

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

Budha's teaching does not go under the topic Religion...
It is a way of living..
And saving lives will give seperate results...
Ones good karmas can not cancel out bad karmas and vice versa.

 

[srisinghe]

Mona poddada muge hodatama wire short welaa.. HIk Hikzzzzzzzzz

 

[GihanFX]

See guys he might died because of Karma or whatever but its not a problem for us, the problem is who killed him. LTTE or TMVP, did the govenement or any polititon support this,

Karam and religios thigs are his personal stuff, and he might done bad things in any of his previous births but thats not an issue here

 

[kalanaweerlk]

Budha's teaching does not go under the topic Religion...
It is a way of living..
And saving lives will give seperate results...
Ones good karmas can not cancel out bad karmas and vice versa.

Now this is true
But the post dat u started dis thread has no connection between his death..
Yo.. listen up.. I believe in Karma as a Buddhist but all have done sins n all..
He might have died because of his karma.. But is dat the issue here??

If the army and people rely on Karma.. they wouldn't even try to stop those LTTE terrorists.. Thinking dat karma will punish them..

Killing is a way of karma.. Some kill cause of their karma n some get killed cause of their karma.. So it's naturally balanced.

But u ma friend need medical attention ryt away
Don't wait untill it's too late

 

[Tharindu Chat]

You have not read the full post...
Karma is only one of 5 niyama dharma. We don't know even a karma was the cause for Janaka's death... But if one kills intentionally that karma will come back in this life or a future one... About that Buddha says one can't find a place to hide when the result of a bad karma comes.
One of the 5 niyama is Dhamma. Natural law.. If one is just present when a bomb blast happens he will be killed even if he has not done any Karma in this or any of his past lives.
If Jeyaraj had not commited any bad karma in his past lives to get killed it can be the other niyama dharma....

Im also a buddhist and knw allda thngs that u r tryng 2 explain
Bt the thng z u said that Janaka perera dead beacaz he killed some terrorists
Bt nw u say that U dnt knw even a karma cause 4 his death
So cant he been killed by any other niyama dharma like Jeyaraj?????????????

Dnt talk abt da issues that u dnt knw abt
U r tryng 2 say that soldiers wl hav 2 face a miserable death
I understood that 4m ur post

 

[kalanaweerlk]

Im also a buddhist and knw allda thngs that u r tryng 2 explain
Bt the thng z u said that Janaka perera dead beacaz he killed some terrorists
Bt nw u say that U dnt knw even a karma cause 4 his death
So cant he been killed by any other niyama dharma like Jeyaraj?????????????

Dnt talk abt da issues that u dnt knw abt
U r tryng 2 say that soldiers wl hav 2 face a miserable death
I understood that 4m ur post

Athula go to hell men!! u freak!! trying to let our forces down!!

 

[Tharindu Chat]

Athula go to hell men!! u freak!! trying to let our forces down!!

Exactly.he definitely need some traetments to his brain

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

Im also a buddhist and knw allda thngs that u r tryng 2 explain
Bt the thng z u said that Janaka perera dead beacaz he killed some terrorists
Bt nw u say that U dnt knw even a karma cause 4 his death
So cant he been killed by any other niyama dharma like Jeyaraj?????????????

Dnt talk abt da issues that u dnt knw abt
U r tryng 2 say that soldiers wl hav 2 face a miserable death
I understood that 4m ur post

That is not what I say Tharindu,
Buddha says that
Intention create a karma...
and one can't hide from its results.
But noone can decide what you intend to do... because you will be the one who face the result.
So I am not telling anybody to do anything or stop anything.

 

[x-pert]

I'm not a born buddhist, even though I appreciate it as a philosophy.

So bro, what you have told in the begining is true.

But The main content does'nt match with it neda?

Chethanahan Bhikkawe kamman wadaami means siyallatama mul wenne chethanawai AFAIK.

Army soldiers never intend (chethana) to kill anybody. Their main intention is to protect the country. (And to get some money for their living.)

So I don't see anything bad in Soldiers killing terrorists.
Chethanawa pirisidu nam prathipalaya pirisidui I think.

In military training we say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.... All good soldiers go to heaven

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

Chethanahan Bhikkawe kamman wadaami means siyallatama mul wenne chethanawai AFAIK.

Army soldiers never intend (chethana) to kill anybody. Their main intention is to protect the country. (And to get some money for their living.)

So I don't see anything bad in Soldiers killing terrorists.
Chethanawa pirisidu nam prathipalaya pirisidui I think.

In military training we say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.... All good soldiers go to heaven

Very good point...
That's correct... absolutely....
When a thief cut the stomach of a person to loot the person and the person dies.. His Karma is made of Raga- Craving... His intention is to gain... He will lose material things in the future.. Even when he gains he will suffer... like Sakwithi and corrupt Politicians do.

When a doctor cuts open a stomach of a patient to save his life the patient may die. If his intention is full of Karuna-compassion his karma is good. But if he does it for money (as doctors who strike for gain) his karma is made of Lobha...
For a soldier the moment he shoots an enemy, the quality of the mind will create a relevent karma.
In Bagwad-Geetha Krishna teaches Arjuna to keep the mind neutral...in a state of Dhyana.
That too will create a karma.
If intend to kill my intention create a bad Karma even if I do not actually kill. The intention is enough. I can kill myself or I can order someone to kill. But no matter who does it... it is my intention bears the fruits. So the larger share will come to me. The share of the person who followed depends on his intention... How angry is he when he kills... If his intention is stronger he will receive a larger ... that is the nature of karma.