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    chanster said:
    Good Sir......first of all i must tell you that my English is not good as yours.......but i i think i told that 99% cant understand you which doesn't mean that i cant...I must say i tend to read what interests me.....like the news you gave about the Auzentech OPAMPs.....

    Now about the Crap 3D Galaxy u mentioned....Yes true that its the only water cooling kit available in Sri Lanka but why do u call it crap when it gives temps like this on a P4 530
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    As far as i know u should know about the Pentium 4 530.....On air cooling Idle it stays at ~56....when load it around ~66..I know this as i do frequent work with 3Ds Max and Maya.....So as you can see having a 3D Galaxy is not all that bad...

    Yes lots of people say its crap but do you know why?
    Simple
    Its water block is not as advance as the D-Tek or the ones you mentioned....IT does not cover the whole CPU.....So some of the heat the processor is generating goes to waste from the part that is not covered by the water block....but you can always fit a FuZion water block to this kit....The pump and the radiator is more like as the other brands......they cant differ much....Its all about the water block......

    So Please don't bash products as it is the only one which is available in Sri Lanka....There are lots of people who dreams about having themselves a water cooling kit......

    About the GTS 640 u mentioned ...it is MORE expensive than the 8800GT so its priced at 65k here.....I'm sorry i don't have proof to show you that 8800GT is 35k in Unity...But as i remember one member mentioned that the Asus 8800GT is 42 in the Asus centre...Come to think of the place "Asus centre" it is priced like that.....So in Unity i think the 8800GT is cheaper.......

    I hope the fight will end as i wont post in this forum for a long time.......Good day to you:)
    LOL I'm younger than you.About English..Who cares?I have installed a dictionary for me and we have Sinhala too.
    Well,If you have switched the WB to a D-tek Fusion then it comes to good from crap.Its now modded.:D If its stock the crap.Anyway I want to mention the sound from the fan in the kit.It IS loud aint it?

    Well for me I hate WCing coz as you know,tubing,lubricant changing,cleaning copper blocks thats hardwork.Considering this has only a CPU block AFAIK its hard work for only that.I know many people dream of that but in reality a water loop is kind a hard to keep.I would suggest you (Not in jealousy, k?)Sell that water loop to someone who is interested.Many think from heart so it will be easy:D.Sell the mobo+CPU too.Get a core 2 say E6550/6750 with something like Foxconn Mars,Gigabyte GA P35-DS3P/R/L V1.1/V2.0.No need to WC coz they run cooler with OC options :D

    About the 8800GT,you wont have proof.Well at least till last Sunday.
    I didnt visit ASUS centre lately.They should have one or two for sure but dont know whether arrived or not.

    To end the fight,you dont have to leave the forum:D Just stop chatting with me(well I dont know,I meant putting replies for mine).If I did what you are gonna do,I wouldnt be here now,surely Elakiri Sasika(Guy is tough,have to give for that) :D.
    But all n all,this is a great convo I had in last few months here.Otherwise just putting(Copy-->pasting)news and some spammers goes by.
    Thank you for that.

    Can you post what your mobo mdel is?Coz usually mobos post the V readings rather than an OK.mmm and 33 C in BIOS (if its on for few minutes)is not soo much great.But if it ws under heavy load it would be greaat considering ambient around 28.Even my old AMD rig running on table has 49C max under load with only stock cooler with 28 ambient.

    You too Have a nice day.
     

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    So in Unity i think the 8800GT is cheaper.......
    If you can find one that is...:P

    However, I asked from PC Partner (HQ in Kolpity) about a couple of months ago, and they said they can import it as a special order and will cost about 80k :P (and u know what I'd rather do, right? :rofl:)

    And people, don't fight :D Poor Chanster...everybody trying to eat his head.

    Speaking of Water cooling....I'm not a fan of them. I feel they don't do much for the price you pay. AFAIK (I maybe wrong) there are air coolers that perform on par, such as Scythe Infinity. (Oh I need one of those babies).

    I'm gonna buy a Northbridge Fan today and see if I can pull up some more juice. Stupid chipsets! Why can't they handle 4 DIMMs well?! :(

    chanster said:
    If you say that oveclock has no impact on the CPU's life.........Then i don't have anything more to say........
    Well, it has, if you go hardcore. Otherwise, if you are overclocking keeping the CPU at the stock voltage, then it virtually doesn't have any impact. This is the case with mine. My CPU's (E6300) stock vcore is 1.35V (olded C2D model tbh, so a little high on the vcore...the latest ones are 1.25V or something iirc). I'm running it at 2.7V at 1.3V (overclocked, but undervolted). Actually it might give a better lifetime than at the stock settings. Sure, higher the clock speed, higher the heat dissipation. But the lowered vcore probably cancels it out.

    Further, at stock vcore, an overclocked E6550 is identical to E6850, except FSB difference, which doesn't have any impact on the CPU (might stress the mobo though). So the overclocked E6550 will get the same lifetime as a STOCK E6850 (at the same clock speeds).
     
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    zCexVe said:
    Well for me I hate WCing coz as you know,tubing,lubricant changing,cleaning copper blocks thats hardwork.Considering this has only a CPU block AFAIK its hard work for only that.I know many people dream of that but in reality a water loop is kind a hard to keep.I would suggest you (Not in jealousy, k?)Sell that water loop to someone who is interested.Many think from heart so it will be easy:D.Sell the mobo+CPU too.Get a core 2 say E6550/6750 with something like Foxconn Mars,Gigabyte GA P35-DS3P/R/L V1.1/V2.0.No need to WC coz they run cooler with OC options :D
    Yes i would love to..Specially the Gigabyte GA P35-DS3P....Im not rich like you....Im a very poor man...I spent a lot of money on my X-Fi and now im broke....I spend on unique things....things that few ppl care about such as WC,Sound card...considering very few ppl have WC its considered as a luxury:P ......All who sees my PC asks what is that blue thing....So ill never want to sell it......Im very satisfied with the temp its giving me......going down from 56 to 33 maybe a small thing for you...but for me its huge:D .....


    Can you post what your mobo mdel is?Coz usually mobos post the V readings rather than an OK.mmm and 33 C in BIOS (if its on for few minutes)is not soo much great.But if it ws under heavy load it would be greaat considering ambient around 28.Even my old AMD rig running on table has 49C max under load with only stock cooler with 28 ambient.

    You too Have a nice day.

    Im using a Gigabyte 945GZME....btw whats the processor you have......49C on full load with stock......hmmmm......once i had a 1700+ Athlon XP stock cooling idle it was at 47C.......

    Dont think im leaving cause of you....Sasika@Elakiri is rite....All people with big post counts tend to take on newbies......When i first joined this forum i tried to explain what is X-Fi ...In the end all the high post count ppl kept on shooting at me.....I don't want to mention names...but if you look at that thread u will understand........Typical Sri Lanka.....U get it everywhere...From the internet to the place where you work......

    EDIT=Not all people try yo take on newbies.....
     
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    Speaking of Water cooling....I'm not a fan of them. I feel they don't do much for the price you pay. AFAIK (I maybe wrong) there are air coolers that perform on par, such as Scythe Infinity. (Oh I need one of those babies).

    You are wrong......Air cooling cant perform par with water.Not even Thermalright Ultra 120......Explanation= Google.com
     

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    chanster said:
    You are wrong......Air cooling cant perform par with water.Not even Thermalright Ultra 120......Explanation= Google.com
    Hmm...ok. But, air cooling performance differs from case to case, cooling setup to setup and a lot of things. One person might get 30C with a cooler, and another person might get 45C with the same cooler. There is no such thing in Water cooling. Thermaltake Ultra 120 looks nice though :D
     

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    chanster said:
    Yes i would love to..Specially the Gigabyte GA P35-DS3P....Im not rich like you....Im a very poor man...I spent a lot of money on my X-Fi and now im broke....I spend on unique things....things that few ppl care about such as WC,Sound card...considering very few ppl have WC its considered as a luxury:P ......All who sees my PC asks what is that blue thing....So ill never want to sell it......Im very satisfied with the temp its giving me......going down from 56 to 33 maybe a small thing for you...but for me its huge:D .....




    Im using a Gigabyte 945GZME....btw whats the processor you have......49C on full load with stock......hmmmm......once i had a 1700+ Athlon XP stock cooling idle it was at 47C.......

    Dont think im leaving cause of you....Sasika@Elakiri is rite....All people with big post counts tend to take on newbies......When i first joined this forum i tried to explain what is X-Fi ...In the end all the high post count ppl kept on shooting at me.....I don't want to mention names...but if you look at that thread u will understand........Typical Sri Lanka.....U get it everywhere...From the internet to the place where you work......

    EDIT=Not all people try yo take on newbies.....
    newbies tell lies.Thats why ppl with big post counts(usually good ones)take on em.If started well nothing to be bited.And you are the first one to tell elakirisasika is right :D jk

    I'm sorry but this will start another fight.Cant help it :(
    Consisdering the sound quality X-Fi,SB 2/4 value dont have much in difference.They all have same clarity and quality.But X-Fi being bit more fast and have 2MB RAM.Fatality have 64MB AFAIK.The RAM is said to be for added fast but since now we use PCI-e or PCI Its not much at all required.During the ISA age it would have been great ,the AWE32 had slots for memory addon.Coz ISA was so slow and the wavetable was brought on to RAM to be decoded.Now since we have great speeds and OB sound is so great,Actually sound department doesnt need to be a addon.
    But YES,as a fan of Creative X-Fi and to show off its a great part.I'll discuss about this more at night coz the kb im typing put double letters for some.Hard to type.The sentences may be not well connected.Sorry for that.
     

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    Anusha said:
    Hmm...ok. But, air cooling performance differs from case to case, cooling setup to setup and a lot of things. One person might get 30C with a cooler, and another person might get 45C with the same cooler. There is no such thing in Water cooling. Thermaltake Ultra 120 looks nice though :D
    X2.
     

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    Anusha said:
    Speaking of Water cooling....I'm not a fan of them. I feel they don't do much for the price you pay. AFAIK (I maybe wrong) there are air coolers that perform on par, such as Scythe Infinity. (Oh I need one of those babies).
    I'm sure you love those Japanese either coz of silent or coz of the Anime they make.:D :D
    But now as newegg too strated to sell Xigmatek.YaYYY w0000t!!
    I sold my Zalman 9700 to a nephiew(It was at USA)and Hoping to get the Xigmatek HDT S-1283.It came 1st in frostytech 4 some reason.And it is 31USD.The best at dirty cheap.It is silent too.But I'm thinking of replacing it with a high CFM blue LED fan.:D
     

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    zCexVe said:
    I'm sure you love those Japanese either coz of silent or coz of the Anime they make.:D :D
    But now as newegg too strated to sell Xigmatek.YaYYY w0000t!!
    I sold my Zalman 9700 to a nephiew(It was at USA)and Hoping to get the Xigmatek HDT S-1283.It came 1st in frostytech 4 some reason.And it is 31USD.The best at dirty cheap.It is silent too.But I'm thinking of replacing it with a high CFM blue LED fan.:D
    *Sniff* apita kohenda oyawage chance :(
    zCexVe said:
    I meant I second that :P
    :lol:
     

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    zCexVe said:
    Consisdering the sound quality X-Fi,SB 2/4 value dont have much in difference.They all have same clarity and quality.But X-Fi being bit more fast and have 2MB RAM.Fatality have 64MB AFAIK.The RAM is said to be for added fast but since now we use PCI-e or PCI Its not much at all required.During the ISA age it would have been great ,the AWE32 had slots for memory addon.Coz ISA was so slow and the wavetable was brought on to RAM to be decoded.Now since we have great speeds and OB sound is so great,Actually sound department doesnt need to be a addon.
    But YES,as a fan of Creative X-Fi and to show off its a great part.I'll discuss about this more at night coz the kb im typing put double letters for some.Hard to type.The sentences may be not well connected.Sorry for that.

    Im waiting for you to talk about X-Fi

    EDIT=ha ha PCI-e PCI,ISA n Xram..... ha hahahahahahahaha "OB sound is so great,Actually sound department doesnt need to be a addon."
     
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