POLYGAMY IN ISLAM

saharaz

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Eranda200 said:
matanam epaaa wela argue karala... essays kiyolath epa wela...

OPEN PLACE TO OPEN DISCUSSION GOT IT ???? KIDZ AND FELLOWZ AFRAID OF TRUTH KEEP AWAY …. I HOPE YOU GOT IT

science is prohibited 2 question their lives...

BULLSHIT !!!!!! MUSLIMS ARE THE PIONEERS OF MODERN SCIENCE ...... YOU UNDERSTAND
 

saharaz

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Wal Bada said:
Another fucking lie. Nalanda is the oldest university whatever Guiness book says.
Wal Bada said:
Read here!. 700 - 1200 years older than your Muslim one. Then comes Abhayagiri complex, 2nd century AD.

You are an EPIC FAIL.

WALBDOOO pleas don't prove that you are a F**L again and again. i was talking about the university which is world's oldest countinuously-operating and degree-granting University. not just ruins and tourist destinations to see i.e NALANDA and ABAYAGIRI. nowhere in your source it mentioned that NALANDA is granting degrees for it's students

MR.WALBADOOO for your kind info ... Below are the world's oldest countinuously-operating and degree-granting Universities.the good news for you is all these world's oldest countinuously-operating and degree-granting Universties are founded by MUSLIMS :yes: :yes:


Year - 859
Current Location - Fes, Morocco
Name - University of Al-Karaouine
Other notes - Recognised by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world's oldest continuously-operating, degree-granting university.[8]

Year - 975
Current Location - Cairo, Egypt
Name - Al-Azhar University
Other notes - A degree-granting Jam'iah ("university" in Arabic)[1] with individual faculties[4] for a general college and theologicalseminary, Law and Jurisprudence, Grammar, Astronomy, Philosophy, and Logic.[1] Professors at Al-Azhar also delivered lectures on Medicine during the time of Saladin.[5]

Year -1233
Current Location - Baghdad, Iraq
Name - Mustansiriya University
Other notes - Established by the AbbasidCaliphal-Mustansir in 1233, and, in addition to the religious subjects, offered courses dealing with philosophy, mathematics and the natural sciences.[6] The college/university was incorporated into the Baghdad University in 1962, and, in 1963, it was reopened as Al-Mustansiriya University.

Year -1327
Current Location - Timbuktu, Mali
Name - University of Sankore
Other notes - Foundation of the school was financed by Kankan Musa whom paid for the Granada architect Abu Ishaq es Saheli from Egypt to build mosques and palaces throughout the empire.

Year -1453
Current Location - Istanbul, Turkey
Name - Istanbul University
Other notes - Founded as a philosophical and theological higher education institution, refounded 23 July 1846 as a Darülfünun (House of Multiple Sciences), and refounded again on 1 August 1933 as a Üniversitesi (Arts and Sciences University).

SOURCE : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation


Also i like to add one more thing, that MUSLIMS are the pioneers of academic degrees at all levels (bachelor, master and doctorate).in the 9th century would be the first examples of such an institution Also in the 9th century, Bimaristan medical schools were founded in the medieval Islamic world, where medical degrees and diplomas were issued to students of Islamic medicine who were qualified to be a practicing Doctor of Medicine. Jami'ah university which offered a variety of post-graduate degrees (Ijazah),[6] and had individual faculties


source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University

don't hesitate to know more ........
 

saharaz

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Wal Bada said:
Another big big lie.
This man first described it by Mathematics,and he lived 120 years before the desert robber.

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Aryabhata (476–550), in his magnum opus Aryabhatiya, propounded a computational system based on a planetary model in which the Earth was taken to be spinning on its axis and the periods of the planets were given with respect to the Sun. Some have interpreted this to be a heliocentric model,[18][19][20] but this view has been disputed by others.[21][22][23] He was also the first to discover that the light from the Moon and the planets was reflected from the Sun, and that the planets follow elliptical orbits, on which he accurately calculated many astronomical constants, such as the periods of the planets, times of the solar and lunar eclipses, and the instantaneous motion of the Moon (expressed as a differential equation).[2][6][24][10] Early followers of Aryabhata's model included Varahamihira, Brahmagupta, and Bhaskara II. Arabic translations of Aryabhata's Aryabhatiya were available from the 8th century, while Latin translations were available from the 13th century, before Copernicus had written De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, so it is possible that Aryabhata's work had an influence on Copernicus' ideas.

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I do agree that ARYABHATA is one of a great mathematician…… there is no doubt.
But here we have to focus on Copernican heliocentric model in Nicolaus Copernicus' De revolutionibus whose work is influenced ??
whether the influence of muslims or aryabhata ???

in your statement and your source it says it is possible that Aryabhata's work had an influence on Copernicus' ideas.


In my statement and source it says It is known that the Copernican heliocentric model in Nicolaus Copernicus' De revolutionibus was adapted from the geocentric model of Ibn al-Shatir and the Maragha school (including the Tusi-couple) in a heliocentric context,


You are saying that there is a chance only not the fact but it is known by most of the scholars that De revolutionibus was adapted from the geocentric model of Ibn al-Shatir and the Maragha school (including the Tusi-couple) in a heliocentric context.

I hope you know what is the literal meaning of possible and adapted, if you don’t let me know i will explain.

I will give you one more additional information

Copernicus himself cites the theories of Albategni, Arzachel and Averroes as influences in his published version of his masterwork,[33] while the works of Alhacen and Biruni were also known in Europe at the time.[11]

SOURCE : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism#Middle_East_2

Albategni, Arzachel, Averroes, Alhacen AND Biruni ALL THESE GUYS ARE MUSLIMS ??? CAN YOU DIGEST ????
 

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fumez said:
hey cmon... u guys makin this place full or racism.... for people who dont like it like nadeeshaF etc just leave it rather than criticizing and creating racism in this nice place.. its just info.. let it go to the ones intended to..

I'm not racist, I just hate the religion of Islam. Period. :yes:

Why dont you ask Saharaz to just shut the funk up? All the while he was missing, there was peace here. Now I see he's back, and will probably waste no time pulling more chit from his arse. If you want this place to be nice, you tell him that.

The concept of modern science is very broad, and for him to attribute the whole of it to Islam shows his arrogance and ignorance.

How would you like if I point out that the car you drive is Japanese (so most likely Buddhist or atheist), or the computer you use today is a Christian invention? How does that sound to you?
 
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Islamaphobia

Interesting thread!

I believe that everyone has a right to their opinion - THIS is freedom of expression - to the extent that they do not insult one another knowingly.


006.108 Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.

Al-Qur'an, 006.108

Islamaphobia is spreading far and wide and especially promoted by sites such as faithfreedom in the guise of freedom of expression.

We are all intelligent human beings and we don' t need people telling us who has won or who has lost an argument the TRUTH is self evident! - it is the reader who will judge

Islam is a not just a religion but a way of life so beautiful that no words can express its true nature - Islam needs to be lived to be understood and understood to be lived. People suffering from islamaphobia and terrorists in the name of islam both need to understand this!

So rather than insulting one another why not start a dialogue rather than a debate?
 

punsa

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I'm not racist, I just hate the religion of Islam. Period.

Why dont you ask Saharaz to just shut the funk up? All the while he was missing, there was peace here. Now I see he's back, and will probably waste no time pulling more chit from his arse. If you want this place to be nice, you tell him that.

The concept of modern science is very broad, and for him to attribute the whole of it to Islam shows his arrogance and ignorance.

How would you like if I point out that the car you drive is Japanese (so most likely Buddhist or atheist), or the computer you use today is a Christian invention? How does that sound to you?




Hmm.. mayetha muslims eka marra tarawak tiyenaawa...

mata peena mooga amma ta muslims set ekak honda polimak dala...

hondata puka arala tiyenawa...
 

nadeeshaF

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punsa said:
I'm not racist, I just hate the religion of Islam. Period.

Why dont you ask Saharaz to just shut the funk up? All the while he was missing, there was peace here. Now I see he's back, and will probably waste no time pulling more chit from his arse. If you want this place to be nice, you tell him that.

The concept of modern science is very broad, and for him to attribute the whole of it to Islam shows his arrogance and ignorance.

How would you like if I point out that the car you drive is Japanese (so most likely Buddhist or atheist), or the computer you use today is a Christian invention? How does that sound to you?




Hmm.. mayetha muslims eka marra tarawak tiyenaawa...

mata peena mooga amma ta muslims set ekak honda polimak dala...

hondata puka arala tiyenawa...

Whatever asshole :rolleyes:
 
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saharaz

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nadeeshaF said:
I'm not racist, I just hate the religion of Islam. Period. :yes:

Why dont you ask Saharaz to just shut the funk up? All the while he was missing, there was peace here. Now I see he's back, and will probably waste no time pulling more chit from his arse. If you want this place to be nice, you tell him that.

The concept of modern science is very broad, and for him to attribute the whole of it to Islam shows his arrogance and ignorance.

How would you like if I point out that the car you drive is Japanese (so most likely Buddhist or atheist), or the computer you use today is a Christian invention? How does that sound to you?

Sister, EK members know you better you don’t need to introduce yourself …… they know who is nadeeshF and Saharaz …you don’t need to tell them that you are not a racist or what ever becoz all know who are you…. We all know that you hate Islam from the beginning it is your personal to hate or love something just becoz in this world you have the chance to choose hell or heaven.

I don’t understand why are you begging around to make me quiet. You only said that I was Epic failed and now you are begging others to make me quiet. I feel sorry for you poor girl……… for your kind information I wasn’t missing whether I’m here or I’m not here PEACE PREVAILS here but if I’m here may be you and your Anti-Islamic friends don’t have PEACE.

I do agree that modern science is very broad, but I’m not attributing all it to Islam as you said. All my statement is MUSLIMS ARE THE PIONEERS OF MODERN SCIENCE. I DIDN’T SAY THAT ISLAM IS MODERN SCIENCE. Main problem with you and your Anti-Islamic friends that whenever I say something you people start looking it on negatively. It is very clear arrogance and ignorance of you and your Anti-Islamic Friends from the replies with full of filthy words.

Now let’s got to your Japanese car story and Christian computer story ……

I do agree that Japanese Companies are manufacturing highest number of vehicle. But your point is pointless for a scientific case in point. we are arguing regarding SCIENCE & INVENTION not manufacturing & utilization. Anyone can manufacture but everyone can’t be a inventor. Inventor and manufacturer are two different things. lame excuse ……..

Regarding computer is a pure Christian invention ……I’m sorry to say again BULLSHIT …….

I also agree that many Christian scientists / inventors had had a contribution on the computer. but the computer which we use today is a amalgamation of the knowledge of many scientist / inventors if you go to the history of computer which dates from about 150-100 BC back

but for the first time in the history a programmable analog computer was invented by Al-Jazari in 1206 he himself a Muslim. Check below also don’t forget to check the source…

The "castle clock", an astronomical clock invented by Al-Jazari in 1206, is considered to be the earliest programmable analog computer. It displayed the zodiac, the solar and lunar orbits, a crescent moon-shaped pointer travelling across a gateway causing automatic doors to open every hour, and five robotic musicians who play music when struck by levers operated by a camshaft attached to a water wheel. The length of day and night could be re-programmed every day in order to account for the changing lengths of day and night throughout the year.

source : ^ abAncient Discoveries, Episode 11: Ancient Robots, History Channel, <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxjbaQl0ad8>. Retrieved on 6 September 2008

Sister if you think this argument is a waste of time please keep away let the viewers judge the EPIC FAIL. I have given many evidence / proof and answers for many of your questions covering the areas which you all ask for also INSHALLAH if you continue this I will also continue with the help of truth. ALLAH KNOWS BEST.

 

saharaz

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tchard said:
Interesting thread!

I believe that everyone has a right to their opinion - THIS is freedom of expression - to the extent that they do not insult one another knowingly.


006.108 Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.

Al-Qur'an, 006.108

Islamaphobia is spreading far and wide and especially promoted by sites such as faithfreedom in the guise of freedom of expression.

We are all intelligent human beings and we don' t need people telling us who has won or who has lost an argument the TRUTH is self evident! - it is the reader who will judge

Islam is a not just a religion but a way of life so beautiful that no words can express its true nature - Islam needs to be lived to be understood and understood to be lived. People suffering from islamaphobia and terrorists in the name of islam both need to understand this!

So rather than insulting one another why not start a dialogue rather than a debate?

THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS BROTHER :yes: :yes: :yes:
WE HAVE TO WIPE OUT THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF ISLAM AND MUSLIMS AMONG NON-MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS
 

saharaz

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punsa said:
Hmm.. mayetha muslims eka marra tarawak tiyenaawa...

mata peena mooga amma ta muslims set ekak honda polimak dala...

hondata puka arala tiyenawa...

HELOOO PLEASE MIND YOUR LANGUAGE FOR FELLOW MEMBERS TRY TO RESPECT OTHERS OPINIONS IF YOU CAN'T PLEASE KEEP AWAY
 

Wal Bada

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  • In my statement and source it says It is known that the Copernican heliocentric model in Nicolaus Copernicus' De revolutionibus was adapted from the geocentric model of Ibn al-Shatir and the Maragha school (including the Tusi-couple) in a heliocentric context,
    But, Abahaybaratha is the father of that model. Not Ibn-Al-Shatir, not even Coprnicus. The model belongs to the first who created it, not to the glorified one.
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    But, Abahaybaratha is the father of that model. Not Ibn-Al-Shatir, not even Coprnicus. The model belongs to the first who created it, not to the glorified one.[/quote]
    Wal Bada said:


    my argument here is not regarding the heliocentric model.
    My argument is MUSLIMS ARE THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS OF MODERNS SCIENCE .. I hope you understand walbadooo.

    if we go to your comment with regards to aryabhata is the father of the
    heliocentric modelit is a foolish comment…. If you go to history of astronomy in ancient times you will find ample of astronomers all of them had their own theories one of them was aryabhata he had his theories according to his immense knowledge of mathematics. It is true that his theory and book was used by upgrade the modern heliocentric model but he isnot regarded or considered as the father of the heliocentric model as you said. If you can’t digest the contribution of modern science by Muslims and looking for lame excuses and arguing with the help of your corrupted mind and lie.
    Walbadoo let me remind you something there are people who knows astronomy than you and me. Nicolaus Copernicus is a person who knows astronomy more than you and me I hope you agree with this statement

    Copernicus himself cites the theories of Albategni, Arzachel and Averroes as influences in his published version of his masterwork, while the works of Alhacen and Biruni were also known in Europe at the time

    Albategni, Arzachel, Averroes, Alhacen AND Biruni ALL THESE GUYS ARE MUSLIMS ??? CAN YOU DIGEST ????

    Check below statement again becoz you don’t understand my statements sometimes ……

    it is possible that Aryabhata's work had an influence on Copernicus' ideas. But the Copernican heliocentric model in Nicolaus Copernicus' De revolutionibus was adapted from the geocentric model of Ibn al-Shatir and the Maragha school (including the Tusi-couple) in a heliocentric context