POLYGAMY IN ISLAM

[saharaz]

MULTIPLE MARRIAGE IN ISLAM

POLYGAMY
Question:

Why is a man allowed to have more than one wife in Islam? i.e. why is
polygamy allowed in Islam?


Answer:

1. Definition of Polygamy
Polygamy means a system of marriage whereby one person has more than one spouse. Polygamy can be of two types. One is polygyny where a man marries more than one woman, and the other is polyandry, where a woman marries more than one man. In Islam, limited polygyny is permitted; whereas polyandry is completely prohibited.Now coming to the original question, why is a man allowed to have more than one wife?

2. The Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says,
“marry only one”.

The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the
Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one. Many Hindu religious personalities, according to their scriptures, had multiple wives. King Dashrat, the father of Rama, had more than one wife. Krishna had several wives. In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one. Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, braham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (960 C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife. (*Interesting Note:- As per the 1975 census of India Hindus are more polygynous than Muslims. The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66 and 67 that the percentage of polygamous arriages between the years 1951 and 1961 was 5.06% among the Hindus and only 4.31% among the Muslims. According to Indian law only Muslim men are permitted to have more than one wife. It is illegal for any non-Muslim in India to have more than one wife. Despite it being illegal, Hindus have more multiple wives as compared to Muslims. Earlier, there was no restriction even on Hindu men with respect to the number of wives allowed. It was only in 1954, when the Hindu Marriage Act was passed that it became illegal for a Hindu to have more than one wife. At present it is the Indian Law that restricts a Hindu man from having more than one wife and not the Hindu scriptures.) Let us now analyse why Islam allows a man to have more than one wife.

3. Qur’an permits limited polygyny

As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:

“Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one.” [Al-Qur’an 4:3]

Before the Qur’an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says:

“Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women....” [Al-Qur’an 4:129]

Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife. Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:

(i) ‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory
(ii) ‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged
(iii) ‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed
(iv) ‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged
(v) ‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden

Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible. It cannot be said that a Muslim who has two, three or four wives is a better Muslim as compared to a Muslim who has only one wife.

4. Average life span of females is more than that of males

By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females. During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.

5. World female population is more than male population

In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women. Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

6. Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical

Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

7. Marring a married man preferable to becoming 'public property'

In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become 'public property'. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.

2. POLYANDRY

Question:

If a man is allowed to have more than one wife, then why does Islam prohibit a woman from having more than one husband?

Answer:

A lot of people, including some Muslims, question the logic of allowing Muslim men to have more than one spouse while denying the same ‘right’ to women.Let me first state emphatically, that the foundation of an Islamic society is justice
and equity. Allah has created men and women as equal, but with different capabilities and different responsibilities. Men and women are different, physiologically and psychologically. Their roles and responsibilities are different. Men and women are equal in Islam, but not identical. Surah Nisa’ Chapter 4 verses 22 to 24 gives the list of women with whom Muslim men can not marry. It is further mentioned in Surah Nisa’ Chapter 4 verse 24 “Also (prohibited are) women already married”

The following points enumerate the reasons why polyandry is prohibited in Islam:

1. If a man has more than one wife, the parents of the children born of such marriages can easily be identified. The father as well as the mother can easily be identified. In case of a woman marrying more than one husband, only the mother of the children born of such marriages will be identified and not the father. Islam gives tremendous importance to the identification of both parents, mother and father. Psychologists tell us that children who do not know their parents, especially their father undergo severe mental trauma and disturbances. Often they have an unhappy childhood. It is for this reason that the children of prostitutes do not have a healthy childhood.
If a child born of such wedlock is admitted in school, and when the mother is asked the name of the father, she would have to give two or more names! I am aware that recent advances in science have made it possible for both the mother and father to be identified with the help of genetic testing. Thus this point which was applicable for the past may not be applicable for the present.
2. Man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman.
3. Biologically, it is easier for a man to perform his duties as a husband despite having several wives. A woman, in a similar position, having several husbands, will not find it possible to perform her duties as a wife. A woman undergoes several psychological and behavioral changes due to different phases of the menstrual cycle.
4. A woman who has more than one husband will have several sexual partners at the same time and has a high chance of acquiring venereal or sexually transmitted diseases which can also be transmitted back to her husband even if all of them have no extra-marital sex. This is not the case in a man having more than one wife, and none of them having extra-marital
sex.

The above reasons are those that one can easily identify. There are probably many more reasons why Allah, in His Infinite Wisdom, has prohibited polyandry.

 

[sherlock]

matath oka ? wela thibba

 

[nadeeshaF]

Another shit stirring thread by saharaz.

Muslims will find a billion excuses to defend the wrong promoted in the name of their religion. Don't talk about polygamy that happened centuries back in other cultures to defend your own wrong. The point is, civilised people no longer practice it. Only a backward religion like Islam will promote such stupid ideologies.

I think it must be more traumatic for children when their fathers have multiple wives, resulting in a hoard of half siblings. Knowing that your father goes and sticks it in a different woman each night must be a sickening thought.

 

[saharaz]

Another shit stirring thread by saharaz.

Muslims will find a billion excuses to defend the wrong promoted in the name of their religion. Don't talk about polygamy that happened centuries back in other cultures to defend your own wrong. The point is, civilised people no longer practice it. Only a backward religion like Islam will promote such stupid ideologies.

I think it must be more traumatic for children when their fathers have multiple wives, resulting in a hoard of half siblings. Knowing that your father goes and sticks it in a different woman each night must be a sickening thought.

SISTER nadeeshaf can you tell me with your civilised brain what we can do for

1- In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites.
2- The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women.
3- Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males.
4- Germany has five million more females as compared to males. 5- Russia has nine million more females than males.

God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays).
There would be more than four million females in Great Britain,
5 million females in Germany
9 million females in Russia

alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

i hope your civilised brain will consider about these facts ........
Islam is always been a NATURE FRIENDLY RELIGION.........

 

[icreations]

interesting facts ..

 

[Wal Bada]

1- In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites.
2- The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women.

Whoa! how many lesbians are there in New York? Why don't you substract that number as well?

 

[Wal Bada]

3- Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males.
4- Germany has five million more females as compared to males. 5- Russia has nine million more females than males.

God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays).
There would be more than four million females in Great Britain,
5 million females in Germany
9 million females in Russia

alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

i hope your civilised brain will consider about these facts ........
Islam is always been a NATURE FRIENDLY RELIGION.........

So you will be ibnteresting to know at world level there are 102 males for 100 females. So how does it fit your argument? There are 50 million more males than females!

Then we'll see the status of the islamic countries, Male:Female ratio
M:F > 100 means there are more males.

Afghanistan	107
Bahrain		134
Bangladesh	105
Eygypt		100
Indonesia	107
Iran		103
Iraq		100
Maldives		105
Oman		126
Qatar		203
Saudi Arabia	120
Sudan		101
UAE		210

Looking at this there are more men for each women in these countries, and the whole argument becomes fucking hilarious.

Source

 

[Wal Bada]

alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

How about the same thing happening to your brother if you were in an islamic country?

 

[nadeeshaF]

SISTER nadeeshaf can you tell me with your civilised brain what we can do for

1- In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites.
2- The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women.
3- Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males.
4- Germany has five million more females as compared to males. 5- Russia has nine million more females than males.

God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays).
There would be more than four million females in Great Britain,
5 million females in Germany
9 million females in Russia

alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

i hope your civilised brain will consider about these facts ........
Islam is always been a NATURE FRIENDLY RELIGION.........

You can drop the civilised brain crap.

Are you ready for another ass whopping?

The data you've presented above means absolutely nothing. Have you even considered the demographics (age, life expectancy) of the population? Are you aware that women outlive men?

In the US the average life expectancy of a woman is 80.5 years, in comparison to the 75.4 year avarage of a man. So women on average outlive men by about 5-6 years in the US. (source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/05facts/lifeexpectancy.htm)

Now lets move on to an age group by group comparison of gender in the US.

The data below is taken directly from the US census department website, and is accurate as of July 2007. (Source: http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007/NC-EST2007-01.csv and http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007-sa.html) Where are the references to your data btw? Is it from an Islamic source that justifies polygamy?


age group women Men
25-29 10281517 10776189
50-54 10721316 10292071
85-89 2271420 1205125
90-94 1057360 445129


This comparison clearly shows that men actually outnumber women in the 25-29 age group, but women start to outnumber men in the older age groups. This is clearly evident from ages 54 and upwards. From age 80 upwards there are nearly twice as much women.

What does that tell you?

The gap in numbers between women and men in the US you referred to occurs in the older generations, perhaps due to women living longer. Are you saying that sinlge women in their 50s, 70s, 80s +++(most of whom are likely to be widowed grandparents) should be married off?

This is likely to be the scenario in most of the European countries you mentioned as well.

So once again, you = EPIC FAIL

Another thing, when you say total gay population in the US, that includes both men and women. Man you are such a tubelight. The figure you gave is roughly 8% of the total population. That obviously includes lesbians as well. So once again you FAIL. Has it also never occured to you that there might be a percentage of women who are not interested in marriage at all? It's a free country and nobody is forced to marry or ridiculed for not marrying



Oh btw, I want to see the sources you referred to when it comes to the data you provided.

 

[nadeeshaF]

Ahahahaha I was right!!! Saharaz did lift the data from an article by none other than Islam loony Zakir Naik! ROFL

Page where Saharaz copied the data from :
http://www.islamawareness.net/Polygamy/why.html


You see, your little guru got it wrong. He says there are more women in the world than men. LOLZ, and wal_bada just refuted him! Bwahahaha! His figures on the gender gap in the US is also wayyyy off!

It's once again time to say (*now everybody chorus with me*),

FAIL.​

 

[Wal Bada]

Ahahahaha I was right!!! Saharaz did lift the data from an article by none other than Islam loony Zakir Naik! ROFL

Ha Ha! So he has said that he does not know who is Zakir Naik. He has been dismantled in the western audience by Ali Sina and Co.

See here for details>> www.faithfreedom.org

Once again

Epic FAIL

 

[saharaz]

Whoa! how many lesbians are there in New York? Why don't you substract that number as well?

Whoa! how many lesbians are there in New York? Why don't you substract that number as well?
THESE FACTS ARE NOT MERE ESTIMATE CENSUS AS SISTER NADEESHAF GIVEN THESE ARE ONLINE POLL TAKEN BY AT www.glcensus.org
SELF IDENTIFICATION
GAY

53%​

LESBIAN

36%​

BISEXUAL

6%​

TRANSGENDER

1%​

HOMOSEXUAL

2%​

OTHER

2%​

GLBT AGE
18-24 YEARS

16%​

25-34 YEARS

32%​

35-44 YEARS

32% ​

45-54 YEARS

15%​

55-64 YEARS

4%​

65+ YEARS

1%​

AMERICA'S TOP GLBT CITIES
LOS ANGELES
NEW YORK
SAN FRANCISCO
WASHINGTON D.C.
MIAMI
DALLAS
BOSTON
PHOENIX
CHICAGO
SEATTLE


"A SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY, OPUSCOMM GROUP, GSOCIETY STUDY".

FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT http://www.glcensus.org

GL CENSUS PARTNERS - A GLBT RESEARCH PARTNERSHIP
-SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
-OPUS COMM GROUP, INC
-GSOCIETY
1-ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES I MENTIONED IN THE USA, WOMEN OUTNUMBER MEN BY 7.8 MILLION. ( YOU CAN CHECK ABOVE)
2-ACCORDING TO SISTER NADEESHF 4.3 MILLION.
3-ACCORDING TO THE ONLINE POLL TAKEN BY AT www.glcensus.org
SELF IDENTIFICATION
GAY

53%​

LESBIAN

36%​

BISEXUAL

6%​

TRANSGENDER

1%​

HOMOSEXUAL

2%​

OTHER

2%​

ACCORDING TO ME 7.8 MILLION WOMEN OUTNUMBERED MEN IN USA, ACCORDING TO SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY AND ONLINE POLL TAKEN BY AT www.glcensus.org 36% (*.64) ARE LESBIANS.
7800000*.64 = 4992000 SO STILL 4.9 MILLION WOMEN OUTNUMBERED MEN IN USA ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES
ACCORDING TO SISTER nadeeshF 4.3 MILLION(SOURCE: http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...est2007-01.csv AND http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...st2007-sa.html)
4300000*.64 = 2752000 SO STILL 2.7 MILLION WOMEN OUTNUMBERED MEN IN USA ACCORDING TO SISTER NADEESHF AND HER SOURCE
END OF THE DAY WOMEN IS OUTNUMBERED MEN IN USA GOT IT !!!!!!!!!
NEW YORK ALONE HAS ONE MILLION MORE FEMALES AS COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF MALES, AND OF THE MALE POPULATION OF NEW YORK ONE-THIRD ARE GAYS I.E SODOMITES. LESBIANS POPULATION IS NOT LARGE IN NUMBER AS COMPARE RING TO GAY POPULATION IN NY STILL THERE ARE WOMEN OUTNUMBERED MEN IN NY
THE U.S.A AS A WHOLE HAS MORE THAN TWENTY-FIVE MILLION GAYS. THIS MEANS THAT THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WISH TO MARRY WOMEN. IT MEANS ……….
ACCORDING TO ME 4.9 MILLION OUTNUMBERED WOMEN + 25 MILLION WOMEN FROM GAY POPULATION = TOTAL 29.9 MILLION WOMEN OUTNUMBERED MEN IN USA
ACCORDING TO SISTER nadeeshF 4.3 MILLION + 25 MILLION WOMEN FROM GAY POPULATION = TOTAL 29.3 MILLION WOMEN OUTNUMBERED MEN IN USA
EVEN IF EVERY MAN GOT MARRIED TO ONE WOMAN, THERE WOULD STILL BE MORE THAN 29 MILLION FEMALES IN U.S.A WHO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET HUSBANDS (CONSIDERING THAT AMERICA HAS TWENTY FIVE MILLION GAYS).

GOD ALONE KNOWS HOW MANY MILLION MORE FEMALES THERE ARE IN THE WHOLE WORLD AS COMPARED TO MALES.

 

[saharaz]

So you will be ibnteresting to know at world level there are 102 males for 100 females. So how does it fit your argument? There are 50 million more males than females!

Then we'll see the status of the islamic countries, Male:Female ratio
M:F > 100 means there are more males.

Afghanistan    107
Bahrain        134
Bangladesh    105
Eygypt        100
Indonesia    107
Iran        103
Iraq        100
Maldives        105
Oman        126
Qatar        203
Saudi Arabia    120
Sudan        101
UAE        210

Looking at this there are more men for each women in these countries, and the whole argument becomes fucking hilarious.

Source

So you will be ibnteresting to know at world level there are 102 males for 100 females. So how does it fit your argument? There are 50 million more males than females!

Then we'll see the status of the islamic countries, Male:Female ratio
M:F > 100 means there are more males.
Code:
Afghanistan107Bahrain134Bangladesh105Eygypt 100Indonesia107Iran103Iraq100Maldives105Oman126Qatar203Saudi Arabia120Sudan101UAE 210

Looking at this there are more men for each women in these countries, and the whole argument becomes fucking hilarious.



YOU CAN CHECK BELOW SOME MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY MALE:FEMALE RATIO FROM YOUR SOURCE
M:F > LESS THAN 100 MEANS THERE ARE LESS MALES.
ALBANIA 99
AZERBAIJAN 95
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA 95
ETHIOPIA 99
KAZAKHSTAN 92
KYRGYZSTAN 97
LEBANON 96
MOROCCO 97
SENEGAL 99
TURKMENISTAN 97
UZBEKISTAN 99


WALBADA STOP KIDDING AROUND HERE ….. DON’T CONSIDER EK MEMBERS ARE FOOL …

TOPIC IS POLYGAMY IN ISLAM , SECONDLY POLYGYNY IS NOT A RULE BUT AN EXCEPTION IN ISLAM. MANY PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE MISCONCEPTION THAT IT IS COMPULSORY FOR A MUSLIM MAN TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE WIFE. ISLAM IS A UNIVERSAL RELIGION WHICH IS PRACTICAL AND IT IS FOR ALL MANKIND.

WALBADOOO ……… US AND EUROPEAN SEX STATICS ARE ONLY ON EXAMPLE AMONG 4 WHICH I HAVE GIVEN SO TRY NOT TO DIVERT THE SUBJECT TO ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, MALE:FEMALE RATIO AND NON ISLAMIC COUNTRY MALE:FEMALE RATIO AND DO NOT MAKE THIS PLACE A CONFUSION LIKE YOUR MIND ………….

 

[saharaz]

How about the same thing happening to your brother if you were in an islamic country?

How about the same thing happening to your brother if you were in an islamic country?

NARRATED 'ALQAMA
THE PROPHET ONCE SAID TO US, 'O YOUNG PEOPLE! WHOEVER AMONG YOU IS ABLE TO MARRY, SHOULD MARRY, AND WHOEVER IS NOT ABLE TO MARRY, IS RECOMMENDED TO FAST, AS FASTING DIMINISHES HIS SEXUAL POWER.
VOLUME 7, BOOK 62, NUMBER 3:
I HOPE YOU GOT THE ANSWER FOR MY BROTHER ……………

 

[nadeeshaF]

Why are you providing a breakdown of gay people in the US, when I already showed you that the number of females is only higher in the older generations due to their longer life span? When I say older, I am referring to women who are 60 or above.

The figures on homosexuality are irrelevent at this point, because where younger women are concerned there are plenty of fish in the sea. The avergae first marriage age in US for women is 25.1 years while it is 26.7 for men.(http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/fertility/slideshow/table01.csv and http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/fertility/mar-fert-slides.html)

The fact that there are more men in the age group of 25-29 in the US, than women clearly refutes the ealier argument you presented to me on their being too many women, and too few men, thus allowing for polygamy. In fact it is only men between 25-29 years of age in the US who should worry about finding a partner. Again, your figures on homsexuality are utterly irrelevent here. Can you tell me why you are still harping on it? Are you in denial of your failure?

Also, the female:male ratio may differ from country to country, but refer back to wal_bada's post, in which he has given the overall ratio proving that there are more men in this world than women.

You've lost both arguments, please accept that and move on.

 

[saharaz]

You can drop the civilised brain crap.

Are you ready for another ass whopping?

The data you've presented above means absolutely nothing. Have you even considered the demographics (age, life expectancy) of the population? Are you aware that women outlive men?

In the US the average life expectancy of a woman is 80.5 years, in comparison to the 75.4 year avarage of a man. So women on average outlive men by about 5-6 years in the US. (source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/05facts/lifeexpectancy.htm)

Now lets move on to an age group by group comparison of gender in the US.

The data below is taken directly from the US census department website, and is accurate as of July 2007. (Source: http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007/NC-EST2007-01.csv and http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007-sa.html) Where are the references to your data btw? Is it from an Islamic source that justifies polygamy?
age group women Men
25-29 10281517 10776189
50-54 10721316 10292071
85-89 2271420 1205125
90-94 1057360 445129
This comparison clearly shows that men actually outnumber women in the 25-29 age group, but women start to outnumber men in the older age groups. This is clearly evident from ages 54 and upwards. From age 80 upwards there are nearly twice as much women.

What does that tell you?

The gap in numbers between women and men in the US you referred to occurs in the older generations, perhaps due to women living longer. Are you saying that sinlge women in their 50s, 70s, 80s +++(most of whom are likely to be widowed grandparents) should be married off?

This is likely to be the scenario in most of the European countries you mentioned as well.

So once again, you = EPIC FAIL

Another thing, when you say total gay population in the US, that includes both men and women. Man you are such a tubelight. The figure you gave is roughly 8% of the total population. That obviously includes lesbians as well. So once again you FAIL. Has it also never occured to you that there might be a percentage of women who are not interested in marriage at all? It's a free country and nobody is forced to marry or ridiculed for not marrying

Oh btw, I want to see the sources you referred to when it comes to the data you provided.

You can drop the civilised brain crap.

Are you ready for another ass whopping?

The data you've presented above means absolutely nothing. Have you even considered the demographics (age, life expectancy) of the population? Are you aware that women outlive men?

In the US the average life expectancy of a woman is 80.5 years, in comparison to the 75.4 year avarage of a man. So women on average outlive men by about 5-6 years in the US. (source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/05...expectancy.htm)

I HOPE YOU GOT A 20/20 EYESIGHT IF YOU ARE USING A SPECTS PLEASE CLEAN IT AND READ MY STATEMENTS ABOVE …… I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WOMEN OUTLIVE MEN !!!!!!!! IF YOU DIDN’T SEE THAT THEN CHECK BELOWWWW……….

AVERAGE LIFE SPAN OF FEMALES IS MORE THAN THAT OF MALES

BY NATURE MALES AND FEMALES ARE BORN IN APPROXIMATELY THE SAME RATIO. A FEMALE CHILD HAS MORE IMMUNITY THAN A MALE CHILD. A FEMALE CHILD CAN FIGHT THE GERMS AND DISEASES BETTER THAN THE MALE CHILD. FOR THIS REASON, DURING THE PEDIATRIC AGE ITSELF THERE ARE MORE DEATHS AMONG MALES AS COMPARED TO THE FEMALES. DURING WARS, THERE ARE MORE MEN KILLED AS COMPARED TO WOMEN. MORE MEN DIE DUE TO ACCIDENTS AND DISEASES THAN WOMEN. THE AVERAGE LIFE SPAN OF FEMALES IS MORE THAN THAT OF MALES, AND AT ANY GIVEN TIME ONE FINDS MORE WIDOWS IN THE WORLD THAN WIDOWERS.

Now lets move on to an age group by group comparison of gender in the US.

The data below is taken directly from the US census department website, and is accurate as of July 2007. (Source: http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...EST2007-01.csv and http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...ST2007-sa.html) Where are the references to your data btw? Is it from an Islamic source that justifies polygamy?


age groupwomenMen
25-291028151710776189
50-541072131610292071
85-8922714201205125
90-941057360445129

This comparison clearly shows that men actually outnumber women in the 25-29 age group, but women start to outnumber men in the older age groups. This is clearly evident from ages 54 and upwards. From age 80 upwards there are nearly twice as much women.

What does that tell you?

The gap in numbers between women and men in the US you referred to occurs in the older generations, perhaps due to women living longer. Are you saying that sinlge women in their 50s, 70s, 80s +++(most of whom are likely to be widowed grandparents) should be married off?
This is likely to be the scenario in most of the European countries you mentioned as well.
So once again, you = EPIC FAIL


Another thing, when you say total gay population in the US, that includes both men and women. Man you are such a tubelight. The figure you gave is roughly 8% of the total population. That obviously includes lesbians as well. So once again you FAIL. Has it also never occured to you that there might be a percentage of women who are not interested in marriage at all? It's a free country and nobody is forced to marry or ridiculed for not marrying


BASED ON YOUR DATA FROM THE POPULATION DIVISION, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU WEBSITE IS FULL OF SHIT I WILL GIVE YOU A EXAMPLE

ACCORDING TO YOUR FIRST LINK http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...est2007-01.csv THE TOTAL US POPULATION AS ON JULY 1, 2006 298,754,819

JULY 1, 2006
BOTH SEXES 298,754,819

TABLE 1: ANNUAL ESTIMATES OF THE POPULATION BY SEX AND FIVE-YEAR AGE GROUPS FOR THE UNITED STATES: APRIL 1, 2000 TO JULY 1, 2007 (NC-EST2007-01)

SOURCE: POPULATION DIVISION, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU RELEASE DATE: MAY 1, 2008

IN THE SAME U.S. CENSUS BUREAU WEBSITE IT MENTIONED THAT THE TOTAL US POPULATION AS ON JULY 1, 2006 299,398,484

JULY 1, 2006
BOTH SEXES 299,398,484

SOURCE http://factfinder.census.gov/servle t/gcttable?-ds_name=pep_2006_est&-mt_name=pep_2006_est_gctt1r_us9s&-format=us-9&-tree_id=806&-geo_id=&-context=gct

SO NO POINT OF ARGUEING BASED ON YOU DATAS PLEASE NEXT TIME DON’T GIVE THESE KIND OF RUBBISH SITES AS PROOFS…….. EEEEEEEEEE

 

[nadeeshaF]

ONLINE POLL

Since when has an internet poll been more reliable than government census statistics?

Oh you must be right about the online poll results being more significant (and we know how every queer person in the US took part in it) , since your the one that quoted those very reliable figures given by mr. researcher himself, Zakir Naik.

 

[saharaz]

Since when has an internet poll been more reliable than government census statistics?

Oh you must be right about the online poll results being more significant (and we know how every queer person in the US took part in it) , since your the one that quoted those very reliable figures given by mr. researcher himself, Zakir Naik.

IT IS NOT A GOVERNMENT SURVEYED CENSUS STATICTS IT IS ONLY A ESTIMATED GOVERNMENT CENSUS STATICS. SURVEYED CENSUS AND ESTIMATED CENSUS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS SECONDLY IN THE SAME WEBSITE TWO DIFFERENT DATAS FOR A SAME TIME PERIOD IT CONTRADICTS SO HOW CAN WE RELY ON SUCH A WEBSITE..... SO CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE ....

ISLAM IS NOT A MAN-MADE LAW THESE ARE DIVINE LAWS YOU CAN ONLY TRY TO PROVE THIS IS WRONG BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVE IT WRONG...... SO PLEASE KEEP TRY TO PROVE IT WRONG BEST OF LUCK

 

[nadeeshaF]

You can drop the civilised brain crap.

Are you ready for another ass whopping?

The data you've presented above means absolutely nothing. Have you even considered the demographics (age, life expectancy) of the population? Are you aware that women outlive men?

In the US the average life expectancy of a woman is 80.5 years, in comparison to the 75.4 year avarage of a man. So women on average outlive men by about 5-6 years in the US. (source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/05...expectancy.htm)

I HOPE YOU GOT A 20/20 EYESIGHT IF YOU ARE USING A SPECTS PLEASE CLEAN IT AND READ MY STATEMENTS ABOVE …… I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WOMEN OUTLIVE MEN !!!!!!!! IF YOU DIDN’T SEE THAT THEN CHECK BELOWWWW……….

AVERAGE LIFE SPAN OF FEMALES IS MORE THAN THAT OF MALES

BY NATURE MALES AND FEMALES ARE BORN IN APPROXIMATELY THE SAME RATIO. A FEMALE CHILD HAS MORE IMMUNITY THAN A MALE CHILD. A FEMALE CHILD CAN FIGHT THE GERMS AND DISEASES BETTER THAN THE MALE CHILD. FOR THIS REASON, DURING THE PEDIATRIC AGE ITSELF THERE ARE MORE DEATHS AMONG MALES AS COMPARED TO THE FEMALES. DURING WARS, THERE ARE MORE MEN KILLED AS COMPARED TO WOMEN. MORE MEN DIE DUE TO ACCIDENTS AND DISEASES THAN WOMEN. THE AVERAGE LIFE SPAN OF FEMALES IS MORE THAN THAT OF MALES, AND AT ANY GIVEN TIME ONE FINDS MORE WIDOWS IN THE WORLD THAN WIDOWERS.

Now lets move on to an age group by group comparison of gender in the US.

The data below is taken directly from the US census department website, and is accurate as of July 2007. (Source: http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...EST2007-01.csv and http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...ST2007-sa.html) Where are the references to your data btw? Is it from an Islamic source that justifies polygamy?


age groupwomenMen
25-291028151710776189
50-541072131610292071
85-8922714201205125
90-941057360445129

This comparison clearly shows that men actually outnumber women in the 25-29 age group, but women start to outnumber men in the older age groups. This is clearly evident from ages 54 and upwards. From age 80 upwards there are nearly twice as much women.

What does that tell you?

The gap in numbers between women and men in the US you referred to occurs in the older generations, perhaps due to women living longer. Are you saying that sinlge women in their 50s, 70s, 80s +++(most of whom are likely to be widowed grandparents) should be married off?
This is likely to be the scenario in most of the European countries you mentioned as well.
So once again, you = EPIC FAIL


Another thing, when you say total gay population in the US, that includes both men and women. Man you are such a tubelight. The figure you gave is roughly 8% of the total population. That obviously includes lesbians as well. So once again you FAIL. Has it also never occured to you that there might be a percentage of women who are not interested in marriage at all? It's a free country and nobody is forced to marry or ridiculed for not marrying


BASED ON YOUR DATA FROM THE POPULATION DIVISION, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU WEBSITE IS FULL OF SHIT I WILL GIVE YOU A EXAMPLE

ACCORDING TO YOUR FIRST LINK http://www.census.gov/popest/nationa...est2007-01.csv THE TOTAL US POPULATION AS ON JULY 1, 2006 298,754,819

JULY 1, 2006
BOTH SEXES 298,754,819

TABLE 1: ANNUAL ESTIMATES OF THE POPULATION BY SEX AND FIVE-YEAR AGE GROUPS FOR THE UNITED STATES: APRIL 1, 2000 TO JULY 1, 2007 (NC-EST2007-01)

SOURCE: POPULATION DIVISION, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU RELEASE DATE: MAY 1, 2008

IN THE SAME U.S. CENSUS BUREAU WEBSITE IT MENTIONED THAT THE TOTAL US POPULATION AS ON JULY 1, 2006 299,398,484

JULY 1, 2006
BOTH SEXES 299,398,484

SOURCE http://factfinder.census.gov/servle t/gcttable?-ds_name=pep_2006_est&-mt_name=pep_2006_est_gctt1r_us9s&-format=us-9&-tree_id=806&-geo_id=&-context=gct

SO NO POINT OF ARGUEING BASED ON YOU DATAS PLEASE NEXT TIME DON’T GIVE THESE KIND OF RUBBISH SITES AS PROOFS…….. EEEEEEEEEE

I quoted the population statistics for 2007. Do you have any proof of dissimilarity for that year? If not, those figures are correct by default- If anyone should keep a tab of the population growth patterns in the US, it would be their own statistics bureau. If you diagree with me, Can you tell me a better source? I am not concerned about 2006 statistics btw.

LOL, You have some ball to call the US statistics beurea "rubbish", all the while quoting zakir naik's unsubstantiated figures pulled straight out of his arse.

 

[booleanB]

matath 4k oaneaaaa