Question for matti pussa

blood_brotha

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matti puusa! after reading and analyzing most of your forum posts i feel that you are an atheist( nothing wrong in being an atheist). anyway i got some questions for you.

can you explain me how life came in to this planet ?

what is the beginning point of this universe! some say everything started from an atom. if it is like that! from where that atom came from ? please give me a good explanation.

coincidence?
 

diamonddrago

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where did that first matter come from ? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

will be answered when LHC project releases results.....for now they think it came from quantum space.....which is the sudden changing of time...leading to a collision...:lol::lol:

please note quantum space is vacuum itself.....:lol::lol: it doesn't have to be created or made...or anything had to be made....bascially its like the blue part in a flame....just an lighter...:lol::lol::P:rofl:

so what now....does God exist....if so where is he/she? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 

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science doesn't get stuck...it will always find the answers.....you ppl fear not having an answer so you make one up...for example...God....:confused::yes::lol:

that is how the scientist inside me thinks....

i never said that! how come you make a prediction like that ? you are the person who called your self a muslim here! muslims believe on Allah and the story of al koran. what you are talking is totally out of your religious believes. how come you still call your self a muslim knowing all of these things ? the koran says Allah created man by clay!
 
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i never said that! how come you make a prediction like that ? you are the person who called your self a muslim here! muslims believe on Allah and the story of al koran. what you are talking is totally out of your religious believes. what are you following then ?

i am a full muslim who believes in God...but i am also a born and bred scientist...and i have answered all ur questions.....because Islam asks the same question from every muslim....;)

you have to be a muslim to understand....that is how strong my faith is....:cool::cool:
 

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not coincidence...quantum science.....things that exist even in the vacuum of space.....tiny particles....originating from vacuum itself....:rolleyes::P:P

that is why astronauts pop like balloon if outside their suits....

i was talking about how life came into being..

ions making bonds in the primordial soup and them getting concentrated and producing protien structures and those protein structures combining together to make more complex proteins and those complexes making first prokaryotic cells ...

it was all coincidence...
 

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i was talking about how life came into being..

ions making bonds in the primordial soup and them getting concentrated and producing protien structures and those protein structures combining together to make more complex proteins and those complexes making first prokaryotic cells ...

it was all coincidence...

not mere coincidence....the system is stable...too stable....to function without being propped up somehow....:lol::lol:
 

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i never said that! how come you make a prediction like that ? you are the person who called your self a muslim here! muslims believe on Allah and the story of al koran. what you are talking is totally out of your religious believes. how come you still call your self a muslim knowing all of these things ? the koran says Allah created man by clay!

clay is carbon.....we are carbon life forms....:lol::lol::lol:



When the human body is examined today, it may be discovered that many elements present on the earth are also to be found in the body. Living tissues contain 95% carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus and sulphur, with a total of 26 different elements.91 In another verse of the Qur'an we are told:
We created man from an extract of clay. (Qur'an, 23:12)
The Arabic word "sulala," translated as "extract" in the verse, means "representative example, essence." As we have seen, the information revealed in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago confirms what modern science tells us-the fact that the same elements are employed in human creation as those found in the soil.
 
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makarakiri

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i am a full muslim who believes in God...but i am also a born and bred scientist...and i have answered all ur questions.....because Islam asks the same question from every muslim....;)

you have to be a muslim to understand....that is how strong my faith is....:cool::cool:


That means you believe on adam and eve! And the way Allah created this earth in 6 days ?

Allah says in the Qur’an: “We created the Heavens and Earth and that which is between them in six days and no fatigue touched us” (Qaf:38)


 

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That means you believe on adam and eve! And the way Allah created this earth in 6 days ?

Allah says in the Qur’an: “We created the Heavens and Earth and that which is between them in six days and no fatigue touched us” (Qaf:38)



lol.....who said i didn't....He didn't say HOW He created them or in what form they were sent to earth...

and the time lines according to Allah....the earth already existed.....and one year according to God...is billions of years for us....:lol::lol:


muslim scientist study the quran and look for answers....then apply academic questions to the answers they found...:):)

dude i cannot honestly say i have a scientific mind if i didn't question everything i knew...and i cannot say i am a proper muslim if i cannot find answers...not excuses...but actual answers....& to also question my faith daily....
 
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makarakiri

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lol.....who said i didn't....he didn't say HOW he created them.....and the time lines according to Allah....the earth already existed.....and one year according to god...is billions of years for us....:lol::lol:

muslim scientist study the quran and look for answers....then apply academic questions to the answers they found...:):)

Who is Allah then ?
 

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not mere coincidence....the system is stable...too stable....to function without being propped up somehow....:lol::lol:

ah yes the dilemma. thats what makes us human. the way i see it u r forgetting the time factor...

all these things took a lot of time. Everything needs time to arrive to static equlibrium.

and 4.5 billion years? that'll make anything stable
 

makarakiri

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the way you sound now is totally different from the way you spoke to me before! that shows me that you are not so confident on your scientific and religious point of views. you are not static.
 

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the way you sound now is totally different from the way you spoke to me before! that shows me that you are not so confident on your scientific and religious point of views. you are not static.

lol...actually its the reverse...i am quite happy with what i know.....

i can believe in science & my faith....you have to be a muslim to really understand.....Islam asks you to question everything....EVERYTHING....

and i do daily....:nerd::nerd:
 

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ah yes the dilemma. thats what makes us human. the way i see it u r forgetting the time factor...

all these things took a lot of time. Everything needs time to arrive to static equlibrium.

and 4.5 billion years? that'll make anything stable


true that...but the system has also sustained itself...so very well.....not to metion all that diversity has been linked in this web of inter connected parts....:lol::lol:

4.5 billion years IS enough time to stabilize...but how could that happen when life forms on earth evolve constantly....through that time....and how after the conception of man...that no comets are inline for collisions with earth...like it does with our other unfortunate neighbors....poor Jupiter & Europa in particular....?
 
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makarakiri

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lol...actually its the reverse...i am quite happy with what i know.....

i can believe in science & my faith....you have to be a muslim to really understand.....Islam asks you to question everything....EVERYTHING....

and i do daily....:nerd::nerd:

are you going to accept science or islam ? islam says humanity begins from adam and eve! science says another story about life on earth! what do you believe ?


you can believe both of these things on the same time! it conflicts. i can come up with more conflicting points.
 
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