Samma Samadhi and Laukika Samadhi

[AtulaSiriwardane]

What are the differences
of
Samma Samadhi and Laukika Samadhi
.
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[lek]

danne na ban....ubama kiyapan ko...

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

Samma Samadhi is based on
Samma sati
Kayanupassana
Vedananupassana
Chittanupassana
Dhammanupassana.
Ones ownself is the object

In laukika Samadhi
object can be anything.

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[hwDinesh]

I can surely tell that your question and answer both are wrong!
Do you want to know why?

Dinesh.

 

[kosandpol]

I can surely tell that your question and answer both are wrong!
Do you want to know why?

Dinesh.

Do explain.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

I can surely tell that your question and answer both are wrong!
Do you want to know why?

Dinesh.

Oh yes.
Why not?
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[hwDinesh]

First i want to know your explanation on what Laukika is.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

If we take a glass of muddy water
we can settle the mud and make it apparently make water purified.
Or we can remove all the impurities away and make the water completely purified.

Laukika Samadhi does first
and Samma Samadhi
attained by Samma sati
does the second.
Settled Mud is the subconscious mind.
Mind is like water and klesha are like settled mud.
Floating mud is Sankhara.



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[AtulaSiriwardane]

First i want to know your explanation on what Laukika is.

Laukika is related to world
and in deeper meaning to what exists.

(Lokoththara is what is beyond existence meaning Nibbana.)
This is my understanding,
though words are borrowed.

What is your definition.?
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[hwDinesh]

ok, it's easiar now. as i know "loukika" means worldy that means belongs to worlds(kama, rupa and arupa). I think words u used are not suitable for what you wanted to say. my suggetion is "samma samadhi and micca samadhi". because acording to the definition samma samadhi also can be so called laukika. can't it?

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

ok, it's easiar now. as i know "loukika" means worldy that means belongs to worlds(kama, rupa and arupa). I think words u used are not suitable for what you wanted to say. my suggetion is "samma samadhi and micca samadhi". because acording to the definition samma samadhi also can be so called laukika. can't it?

I have not seen the words Michcha samadhi among Buddha's words.
Where did you see them.

It is not Laukika
for it does not depend
on anything which exists.
I think the difference in Samma samadhi is
that settlement is attained by
the purification gained by Samma sati.
It can be achieved only by
eradication of Sankharas
which is the cause of all the disturbances of mind.
Samma Samadhi is a by product of Samma Sati.

It is like the relaxation one feel after
a good sleep.
Sleep is laukika
but relaxation does not depend on sleep any more.
We work with Samma Sati
and Samma Samadhi is the result.


With Samma samadhi one is aware of everything related to him
so that he can lead a normal life
with Samma Samadhi.
He doesn't have to escape from the world
like people who attain to dhyanas
with kasina and other methods.
Dhyana attained by worldly methods are fragile.
Samma Samadhi is not...
because it is a result of eradicting sankharas.
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[kosandpol]

ok, it's easiar now. as i know "loukika" means worldy that means belongs to worlds(kama, rupa and arupa). I think words u used are not suitable for what you wanted to say. my suggetion is "samma samadhi and micca samadhi". because acording to the definition samma samadhi also can be so called laukika. can't it?

Atula, what on earth makes you think that I know this many paali words ?

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

Atula, what on earth makes you think that I know this many paali words ?

You better take them as they are
and understand the explanations...
in English it would mean something else,
which is totally different.
Good Concentration is an utterly wrong translation for Samma Samadhi.

Smama samadhi...
Some say Samma means good.
But I understand it as Complete and correct samadhi...
because as I said
it is achieved by eradicating defilements.
Not by concentrating attention on some object,
mental or material object like a flame.
ignoring everything else,

Samma Samadhi
is achieved
by being aware of
Body,
what Sensations arise in body,
Mind,
what mental qualities arise in mind
-in short watching yourself as a whole...
with Upeksha -equanimity.

Michcha = Mithya = wrong/incorrect/delusionary
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[kosandpol]

You better take them as they are
and understand the explanations.
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No, you dumbbell, I was cross referring to your other post where you asked if this hwDinesh guy is me.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

No, you dumbbell, I was cross referring to your other post where you asked if this hwDinesh guy is me.

Don't try to prove you are not him



even if you are not him.
Let us enjoy the mystery.
Thats where the fun is.
I think you may be GTRZ... also.

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