The Question of Vegetarianism

[x-pert]

here u go xp.......this is wot I was tryin to say.......

Well then the teachings of Buddha contradicts with each other ne machang....

Mama ahala thiyana widihata okkotama mul wenne hitha saha chethanawa.

So mas kana miniha eeka saththu marana chethanawen karanne naththam eeka pawak wenne kohomada?

And kalin kiyuwa ekata>> Saththu marapu kenek kawadaawath eeka jeewath weema pinisa kiyala hithaagena karanne naha machang. Eyala dannawa karanne pawak kiyala. Maalu allana aya gana newei kiyanne.

 

[DJ.Parker]

Well then the teachings of Buddha contradicts with each other ne machang....
Mama ahala thiyana widihata okkotama mul wenne hitha saha chethanawa.

So mas kana miniha eeka saththu marana chethanawen karanne naththam eeka pawak wenne kohomada?

And kalin kiyuwa ekata>> Saththu marapu kenek kawadaawath eeka jeewath weema pinisa kiyala hithaagena karanne naha machang. Eyala dannawa karanne pawak kiyala. Maalu allana aya gana newei kiyanne.

That's why I hav quoted the post about boiling the water and cleaning the cobweb......so me too waiting for a good reply

mas kana eka dannawanam thamata mas wenuwata kanna ewa onatharam thiyanawa saha thamage badaginna wenuwen jeewithayak nathiwenawa kiyala?

sathawa maranne api kana nisane

 

[DJ.Parker]

I'm also a buddhist. But after reading this book in unbiased and an open mind, I dont agree with the idea presented here by ven.Kiribathgoda Gnananda Thero

oya pothe kiyala thiyenne kohomada machan?

 

[x-pert]

That's why I hav quoted the post about boiling the water and cleaning the cobweb......so me too waiting for a good reply

mas kana eka dannawanam thamata mas wenuwata kanna ewa onatharam thiyanawa saha thamage badaginna wenuwen jeewithayak nathiwenawa kiyala?

sathawa maranne api kana nisane

And the cob web thing I also didn't get it macho...

Mokada apita pirisiduwa gewal thiyaganna ooni nisa makulu dal kadanna puluwan nam, ayi api bona wathura eka pirisidu karaganna kiyala unu karanna baha kiyanne? ?

Mokada filter kala kiyala germs marenne nahane.

 

[sri_lion]

That's why I hav quoted the post about boiling the water and cleaning the cobweb......so me too waiting for a good reply

mas kana eka dannawanam thamata mas wenuwata kanna ewa onatharam thiyanawa saha thamage badaginna wenuwen jeewithayak nathiwenawa kiyala?

sathawa maranne api kana nisane

I dont think you need rocket scientists to figure whather you are doing a SIN or not!

Like x-pert said in Buddhism everything revolves around your MIND, your MIND is the key to your actions and your actions are the key to your destiny..because Buddhism is based on cause and effect!

If you need to complete a SIN you gotta full fill 5 steps! (Panathi paatha)

1. You need to know its alive
2. You get the thought of killing it
3. You make a plan to kill it
4. You execute the plan
5. You kill it using the executed plan

Now you can put all your scenarios in it and see whether it goes through! if all ticks then it is indeed a SIN, if not.. its not!

 

[DJ.Parker]

I dont think you need rocket scientists to figure whather you are doing a SIN or not!

Like x-pert said in Buddhism everything revolves around your MIND, your MIND is the key to your actions and your actions are the key to your destiny..because Buddhism is based on cause and effect!

If you need to complete a SIN you gotta full fill 5 steps! (Panathi paatha)

1. You need to know its alive
2. You get the thought of killing it
3. You make a plan to kill it
4. You execute the plan
5. You kill it using the executed plan

Now you can put all your scenarios in it and see whether it goes through! if all ticks then it is indeed a SIN, if not.. its not!

tnx mucho
so the bottomline is eating meat is not a sin

btw hav u read this book rapa referring to?

 

[djHiran]

tnx mucho
so the bottomline is eating meat is not a sin

btw hav u read this book rapa referring to?

OK! Don't go to butcher! Because according to Lord Buddha's preachings, killing or promoting others to do so is a sin...

 

[sri_lion]

tnx mucho
so the bottomline is eating meat is not a sin

Yes! but as Buddhists we should know that one of the Fundamental things in Buddhism is Compassion (Maithree) so it is not encouraged that you eat meat as it would encourage others to kill for you! Once again.. cause and effect comes into place.. you are causing a demand and as a effect someone must kill for you!

Well...even hamuduruwo eating "Umbalakada" (Dired Fish/Maldivian Fish) right?

btw hav u read this book rapa referring to?

No machang I haven't, but I'd love to!

 

[DJ.Parker]

OK! Don't go to butcher! Because according to Lord Buddha's preachings, killing or promoting others to do so is a sin...

according to what sri lion has posted that's the idea I've got (paanathi paatha)

n now u say this..... so if a person gets meat from a supermarket will it b a sin?

 

[djHiran]

according to what sri lion has posted that's the idea I've got (paanathi paatha)

n now u say this..... so if a person gets meat from a supermarket will it b a sin?

Think clear... Promoting others to kill is a sin. Everytime you pay for flesh, you promote them to kill more

 

[DJ.Parker]

Yes! but as Buddhists we should know that one of the Fundamental things in Buddhism is Compassion (Maithree) so it is not encouraged that you eat meat as it would encourage others to kill for you! Once again.. cause and effect comes into place.. you are causing a demand and as a effect someone must kill for you!

Well...even hamuduruwo eating "Umbalakada" (Dired Fish/Maldivian Fish) right?



No machang I haven't, but I'd love to!

it is encouraging neda muchang?
so this whole demand and supply thing wouldnt u sin is it? kinda confused.

I guess they do.... and they cant deny if the almsgivin includes meat ne?

 

[Kalindugayan]

i also like to read that book of swaminwahansa.
any pdf's ?
i it is nice to know about other religious theories.

V also like

 

[DJ.Parker]

Think clear... Promoting others to kill is a sin. Everytime you pay for flesh, you promote them to kill more

that's what I thought. now can u pls explain how it would complete the following steps?


If you need to complete a SIN you gotta full fill 5 steps! (Panathi paatha)

1. You need to know its alive
2. You get the thought of killing it
3. You make a plan to kill it
4. You execute the plan
5. You kill it using the executed plan

 

[pakaya15]

Ettha thamai kathawa

 

[djHiran]

that's what I thought. now can u pls explain how it would complete the following steps?


If you need to complete a SIN you gotta full fill 5 steps! (Panathi paatha)

1. You need to know its alive
2. You get the thought of killing it
3. You make a plan to kill it
4. You execute the plan
5. You kill it using the executed plan

No thats not what I mean. If you go to a supermarket and buy meat, that does not cause a SIN of killing an animal. But, that completes another kind of SIN of promoting that original SINNER to kill more for money

 

[sri_lion]

it is encouraging neda muchang?
so this whole demand and supply thing wouldnt u sin is it? kinda confused.

I guess they do.... and they cant deny if the almsgivin includes meat ne?

Yeah! that's what I'm saying.. you are encouraging others to kill for you..

But this can happen in 2 ways right?

Lets take a scenario of we buying a chicken @ a supermarket, so when you buy the Animal is already dead, so according to our list the 1st criteria is already broken!

But...you ask someone, lets say you go to a chicken farm and point at a live chicken ask the owner directly...."I want that one", in this incident you are right on track!

1. You know the animal is alive
2. You have the thought of killing it
3. Your plan is to get the farmer do it for you
4. Farmer execute plan (which is your plan too)
5. Kill the animal (according to the agreement between you and him)

You both are guilty and officially sinned!

 

[x-pert]

Yeah! that's what I'm saying.. you are encouraging others to kill for you..

But this can happen in 2 ways right?

Lets take a scenario of we buying a chicken @ a supermarket, so when you buy the Animal is already dead, so according to our list the 1st criteria is already broken!

But...you ask someone, lets say you go to a chicken farm and point at a live chicken ask the owner directly...."I want that one", in this incident you are right on track!

1. You know the animal is alive
2. You have the thought of killing it
3. Your plan is to get the farmer do it for you
4. Farmer execute plan (which is your plan too)
5. Kill the animal (according to the agreement between you and him)

You both are guilty and officially sinned!

Cool and nice

Again, sin is a matter of perspective I guess

Even I know some bhikkus eating eggs, fish and chicken.
Some asks for it directly.

Anyway completing the panathipatha thing is a new thing for me thx

 

[Asitha-K]

Cool and nice

Again, sin is a matter of perspective I guess

Even I know some bhikkus eating eggs, fish and chicken.
Some asks for it directly.

Anyway completing the panathipatha thing is a new thing for me thx

This is not only for panathipatha, Other 4sins also have 5 stages to complete!

 

[x-pert]

This is not only for panathipatha, Other 4sins also have 5 stages to complete!

I see

So basically the literal conclusion of the above is eating meat is not a sin unless you kill the animal.

 

[sampath312]

No thats not what I mean. If you go to a supermarket and buy meat, that does not cause a SIN of killing an animal. But, that completes another kind of SIN of promoting that original SINNER to kill more for money

dear bro I dont see a big deferent in it..But I have herd some of our popular bikkus even using this same Idea to get rid of this...If we dont eat, to whom the killer do kill a animal for....to whom he market for??? promotion comes second ma brother...first he started for the person who consume it so it doesn't matter the place you buy...directly by butcher or the super market...


he kills as we eat
as we keep on eating he is promoted