The Question of Vegetarianism

gazaly

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rapa said:
muladarama wadee kiwwe mona adahasinda?
mata poddak pehedili karala denawada? :)

Dakkaney machan aththa kiwwama watena nama monawada kiyalaa .....?
a'kama thamai mamath issara kiwwe machan lokema kiyanwa kiyana eka newei
api poddak hariyata baluwama apitama therenawa api inney koheda kiyalaa
ada Umba aththa kiwwa gaman Umbata Oya nama watena waa o'kamai apita issara uneyth...:nerd:

aththa eka paaratama loketa aawama minissunta A'ka adahaganna bariunaama
aththa kiyana ekata wirudda wenawaa dan umbata unaa wage...
 

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yas machan but we are not choose our religious we born with it ;)
eka nisa apita eke hari weredda passe unath penna puluwan neda? :)

lesser punishment ada kale smajayata gela penne nee thama
mokada eekale metharam darunu aparada minissu karala thibbe nee ne
and Singapore not the world's safest country ;)
eka nisa punishment deelama minissu hadanna bee machan pradhan dee thamai hoda akalpa athi karan eka :)
honda akalpa kiyanne machan samajaye wiwidathwayath ekka thaman wishwasaya galapagena jeevath wenna puluwan eka..

eka thama mama meka reply kale off topic giyath kamak ne kiyala..

hemoma agamak adhanne hari piliganne hari eka thanagena, api nodanna agam wala neethi thadai ape eke lihil kiyala kiyanne man hithana widiyata honda akalpayaka lakshanayak nevei. eken narakak thama venne mokada hamoma thamunge agama usas wa salakana nisa..

singapore is not the worlds safest country.but dont you think comparing to us, with a civilization of 2500 years singapore is far far ahead as a civilised society? :)

what i pointed was thats cos of the framework they've built n strong laws to protect it they could achive it.thats what i would say less boasting more work...which we couldnt do for 2500 years i guess:rofl::rofl:
 

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rapa said:
ow eunata hema agamaka ee yana maragaya ekama vidiyak ganne nee
samhara agam wala dedi neethi rethi dalath thiyenawa
mama danna widiyata budu dahame witharai kiyala thiyenne daramay vimasa bala ganna kiyana ekath
samhara ewaye ehema vimasan ekath pawak, nethnam thahanam wedak
ekai ara kalin kiwwe loka dekaka hira wela innawa kiyala ;)

Kauda ehema kiyuwe?

hama aagamakama sitheeme nidahasa deela thiyanawa.

And hama aagamakama awasanaya ekai. awasanaya kiyuwe ara kalin kiyapu sathyaya.

Yanna thiyana margayath ekai.

Anith minissunta hodak karagena, pawu nokara hari jeewithayak gatha karana kenata sathya kara yanna puluwan.

Ehema nokarana kenata sathyaya kara yanna baha.

ooka thamai koi aagameth kiyana awasan sathyaya mama danna widihata.
 

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gazaly said:
Dakkaney machan aththa kiwwama watena nama monawada kiyalaa .....?
a'kama thamai mamath issara kiwwe machan lokema kiyanwa kiyana eka newei
api poddak hariyata baluwama apitama therenawa api inney koheda kiyalaa
ada Umba aththa kiwwa gaman Umbata Oya nama watena waa o'kamai apita issara uneyth...:nerd:

aththa eka paaratama loketa aawama minissunta A'ka adahaganna bariunaama
aththa kiyana ekata wirudda wenawaa dan umbata unaa wage...

ow ow uba kiyan kathaweth aththak thiyenawa machan :)
etha eya mona adahasakin ahuwada danne nethi nisa thamai mama ahuwe ai ehema kiyanne kiyala ;)
ubawa kalekin dekke :)
 

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just said:
honda akalpa kiyanne machan samajaye wiwidathwayath ekka thaman wishwasaya galapagena jeevath wenna puluwan eka..

eka thama mama meka reply kale off topic giyath kamak ne kiyala..

hemoma agamak adhanne hari piliganne hari eka thanagena, api nodanna agam wala neethi thadai ape eke lihil kiyala kiyanne man hithana widiyata honda akalpayaka lakshanayak nevei. eken narakak thama venne mokada hamoma thamunge agama usas wa salakana nisa..
mekenam machan aththak thiyenawa ;)

just said:
singapore is not the worlds safest country.but dont you think comparing to us, with a civilization of 2500 years singapore is far far ahead as a civilised society? :)

what i pointed was thats cos of the framework they've built n strong laws to protect it they could achive it.thats what i would say less boasting more work...which we couldnt do for 2500 years i guess:rofl::rofl:

mekanam amchan piliganna behe
singapore ape ratath ekka compare karanna behe ethamai api aurudu 30 wada wedi kalayak mee kala kanni yuddayakin peeda widinawa, uba dannawane uddayak thiyena kota deerga kalayak eka minissunta balapanwa
minissunge akalpa wenas karanwa
den balanna meeta aurudu 15 withara issara minihek pihiyakin anala meruna kiwwoth ape minissu nikan gal gehenawa, ada ehemada ekath nikan samanya deyak wagene salakanne

ewagema merate purana ithihasaya hena poddak hari dannawanm oya dannawa athi mee punchi rata peradiga dhanya garaya wela thibuna kiyala, ewagema ee kale wee pedurakwath wela ganna berilu, mokada rahathan wahansela irdhi balayen ahasin gaman karana nisa hewanella wetenawalu polowata
ewage shrashreekawa thibba rata tika tika vinasha kala pitarat idala awilla ape rata warin wara akramanaya karapu udawiya :(
den ithin apita thiyenne mula idala negiteemak thamai :)
 

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Kauda ehema kiyuwe?

hama aagamakama sitheeme nidahasa deela thiyanawa.

And hama aagamakama awasanaya ekai. awasanaya kiyuwe ara kalin kiyapu sathyaya.

Yanna thiyana margayath ekai.

Anith minissunta hodak karagena, pawu nokara hari jeewithayak gatha karana kenata sathya kara yanna puluwan.

Ehema nokarana kenata sathyaya kara yanna baha.

ooka thamai koi aagameth kiyana awasan sathyaya mama danna widihata.

hebai mama danna ewanam tikaka wenasa machan ;)
sitheeme nidahasa oni agamaka thiyenne puluwan
eunata ee agame shrathrun hari ee shrathrun deshana karala thiyena daramaya gena hari vmasala balanna nidahasak thiyenawada?
hari weredda vimasa balanna nidahasak thiyenawada?
hemoma sathya soya yana bawa nam aththa machan :)
ewa yana maraga wala thamai wensa kam thiyenne
 

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rapa said:
hebai mama danna ewanam tikaka wenasa machan ;)
sitheeme nidahasa oni agamaka thiyenne puluwan
eunata ee agame shrathrun hari ee shrathrun deshana karala thiyena daramaya gena hari vmasala balanna nidahasak thiyenawada?
hari weredda vimasa balanna nidahasak thiyenawada?
hemoma sathya soya yana bawa nam aththa machan :)
ewa yana maraga wala thamai wensa kam thiyenne

Ketiyenma kiyuwoth owu. Nidahasak thiyanawa :)

Mona aagamewath kiyala naha thamunge dharmaya gana wimasana eka pawak kiyala.

Namuth budu dahame kelinma kiyanawa wimasanna kiyala. eeka witharai wenasa.
eekata hethuwa budu dahama darshanayak wina aagamak nowana ekai.
 

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x-pert said:
Ketiyenma kiyuwoth owu. Nidahasak thiyanawa :)

Mona aagamewath kiyala naha thamunge dharmaya gana wimasana eka pawak kiyala.

Namuth budu dahame kelinma kiyanawa wimasanna kiyala. eeka witharai wenasa.
eekata hethuwa budu dahama darshanayak wina aagamak nowana ekai.
hema nam hodai machan
mama weradiyata waboda karagena wenna athi :)
 

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    Dear friends,

    I am a newbie to this forum; but thought it better to comment eventhough I did not get the opportunity to read this book by Ven. Kiribathgoda Gnananada Thero.

    Even if we opt not to eat meat or fish out of compassion, we should clearly know that
    - this practice is not a part of our virtue (Sila). Taking things not advocated by Sammasambuddha Guthama as Sila would end up creating Silabbatha Paramasa (a Sila practiced as and end; and not as a component of the path to Nibbana) that binds us to the Samsara.
    - As practicing Buddhists we should give up "completely" the 'isms' (Dhitti) including vegetarianism. We should retain only Samma Dhitti.

    I am not saying we should (or should not) eat meat. We should know what Buddha disclosed; and the motivation for revealing it. In that context a book like this by Ven. Thero would be really useful.

    Think how meaningless the isms we have when we consider our samsaraic existence.
    * To dear friends that are Buddhists and call themseleve 'vegetarians':
    Suppose you cling to Vigetarianisms and because of the Silabbatha paramasa fail to achieve Sothapanna state this life; and suppose your get born as a tiger (because everyone of us have this tendancy; unless we make use of Dhamma). Cannot this happen? Then what is the point of clinging to vegetarianism!

    A Buddhist may choose not to eat meat as a personal preference; but should know that it won't help in his/her path to Nibbana.

    * If one opts to eat meat; he/she should know how not to stain the Sila by getting involved in Prana Gatha; that is why what Sammasambuddha Guttama disclosed on meat consumption should be known without distortions.

    There are Suttas that clearly shows cues on meat consumptions (I am sure this book will highlights them); so we should read the book and if in doubt verify with the Sutta. Personally I do not doubt Ven. Thero because I've independenly verified what he preached in the past.

    After all our aim is ending this samsaraic existence by following Dhamma. We should be careful not to be deceived by our mind.

    One should not take something as the Truth just because it agrees with one's faiths (amulila Shraddha); one's preferences (Ruchi); what one has heard of (Anussava); one's logical reasoning (Akaraparivitakka); one's isms (Ditthinijjhanakkhanti). Please see Chnaki sutta on how one should find what is the Truth.

    Friends who eat meat and those who do not, we should know that
    our aim of as practicing Buddhists should be following the path disclosed by Sammasambuddha Gautama; and not doing what 'we think to be correct'.

    Theruwan saranai!
     

    djHiran

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    Hello Rapa and all other ppl here!
    I'll solve your problem 'why should us be vegetarians?'
    But it'll consume about 250MB of data. I'll start uploading, but only if you all promise to download.
    What you say? Rapa, if you can pls add an open poll. I want to know who will download it.
    BUT, if I upload it, I strongly advise don't download it if you have a weak heart...
     

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    x-pert said:
    Ketiyenma kiyuwoth owu. Nidahasak thiyanawa :)

    Mona aagamewath kiyala naha thamunge dharmaya gana wimasana eka pawak kiyala.

    Namuth budu dahame kelinma kiyanawa wimasanna kiyala. eeka witharai wenasa.
    eekata hethuwa budu dahama darshanayak wina aagamak nowana ekai.
    Meeka gana mama comment ekak daana eka hari da manda..

    Mama bauddayek, eth mage hondama yaluwo serama wage wenath aagam adahana aya. Api oya gana godak katha karala thiyanawa. Ee ayath ekka katha karahama nam therenne eyalage aagama gana 'vimasanna' eyalata aithiyak naha.

    Eyala thamange aagama 'adahanna ooni' kiyana neethiya eyalata thiyanawa kiyala thamai eyala nam kiyanne...

    Habai mama kiyanne api aagam wala wenaskam samana kam gana katha karana eka nathara karamu neda?

    Baudda darshanaye hatiyata nam api aagam adahana ayawa pahath karala salakanne naha. Ee nisa aagam wala samanakam wenaskam gana katha karana eka maha moodakamak hetiyatai mata nam penne.
     

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    djHiran said:
    Hello Rapa and all other ppl here!
    I'll solve your problem 'why should us be vegetarians?'
    But it'll consume about 250MB of data. I'll start uploading, but only if you all promise to download.
    What you say? Rapa, if you can pls add an open poll. I want to know who will download it.
    BUT, if I upload it, I strongly advise don't download it if you have a weak heart...

    Great Machan upload it, I need to download it!
     

    x-pert

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    djHiran said:
    Meeka gana mama comment ekak daana eka hari da manda..

    Mama bauddayek, eth mage hondama yaluwo serama wage wenath aagam adahana aya. Api oya gana godak katha karala thiyanawa. Ee ayath ekka katha karahama nam therenne eyalage aagama gana 'vimasanna' eyalata aithiyak naha.

    Eyala thamange aagama 'adahanna ooni' kiyana neethiya eyalata thiyanawa kiyala thamai eyala nam kiyanne...

    Habai mama kiyanne api aagam wala wenaskam samana kam gana katha karana eka nathara karamu neda?

    Baudda darshanaye hatiyata nam api aagam adahana ayawa pahath karala salakanne naha. Ee nisa aagam wala samanakam wenaskam gana katha karana eka maha moodakamak hetiyatai mata nam penne.

    That's called andha adaheema. (blindly following)

    And oya ahala thiyanawada eyalagen mokakda adahanna ooni kiyala? ;)

    What they will tell is they need to believe in god. Yes we all do isn't it?

    Don't you believe that Buddha was here? Don't you believe that the teachings of Buddha was taught by himself? Don't you believe in heaven and hell? (In different terminology though) Don't you believe in gods?

    So what's the difference mate? We all do believe in several common aspects. But it doesn't show that people are blindly following.

    But unfortunately many people are following their religion blindly. Because it is their inheritance. Very few has realised the religion and living with it. You're a born Buddhist and I'm a born Catholic.

    That doesn't mean that we can't 'realise' about our beliefs. We all do have the power to decide what is true and what is not.

    We have ten commandments to protect. Buddhists have pan sil to protect.
     

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    djHiran said:
    Beleiving that Buddha or Jesus was here and beleiving in their vision is completely different bro.
    So what's the point?

    Don't you believe in Buddha's vision? Or Jesus's if you're Catholic?
     

    djHiran

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    x-pert said:
    So what's the point?

    Don't you believe in Buddha's vision? Or Jesus's if you're Catholic?
    The point? To argue about what? I told once, I don't want to point at and poke the dark sides of any religion or vision.

    And one more thing brother, I don't like to use words "born" and "Buddhist" together.
     

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    djHiran said:
    Let me clear it this way...
    Think you are a lawyer, and you own an office room. Then, you are sitting there and waiting.. expecting people will come to you, get your service and pay in return. Yes! People come.. Then what happens? You earn money, more and more... more people come, you earn money. But if no one come there to have your service, what happens? You wait.. still... and still.... But no one... Now what happens? You will have to give it up and try something else!
    Ok, now think if you were a butcher,..... the same principle...
    Everytime you go for a butcher's service, you become a customer for that sinner. He kills more and more... Why? Because he have customers! Everytime you go for his service, you become an abettor.
    Lord Buddha have preached that it becomes a sin if we kill or even if we promote someone to do so....

    What I believe to be true here is only Lord Buddha's preaching
    Chethanawa karmaya wana bawath,chethanawa pahalakota,kayen,wachanayen, manasin karma res karana bawa budunwahanse deshana karala thiyanawa........
    eka hari machooooooooo...................
    pranaghathaya ha eyata anubala deemath........karma................
    eyata anubala deema kiyanne..................
    adala pranaghathayata directly sambanda novi , yamkisi agaweemak kaloth.......
    samaharawita eka..........
    wachanayen anakaranna puluwan,agilla dikkara pennanna puluwan,thamage hesireemen eya karanna, yana egaweema denna puluwan.................
    anna ewan awasthawakadeeth.......apage chethanawa pranghathyata mulika wenawa.............................