The reality beyond matter -Anatta

[AtulaSiriwardane]

This is one thing where you ARE the cause of failure.

Agreed completely,
If Resmi fails
she, herself
is the cause of failure.
For more than 2500 years it worked,
though I am not very good following it
according to all the instructions all the time,
it worked from the very first course.
It changed my life.
It works with any one who sincerely tries.

Reshmi,
If you have 10% of the enthusiasm you show,
it will work for you.
Wish you all the best.

​

 

[madurax86]

good one for explaining what we perceive can be utter junk
but as in terms of ANITHYA, ANATHMA nothing is expressed thru the video,
i think its better to give out E=MC^2
if you want to talk about reality and science -- to the extent that it can go.
That proves that no matter will exist for all eternity, there is a balance between energy and mass and it will convert when it wants to
so no big deal in the long run nothing will be there as it were a long time ago it will be changed ...but the things we perceive are of the things that actually are there at the time of perceiving, it can change afterwards or during the percievement but what we process is only one at a certain time frame(thats why we can watch films) our input FPS is around 20 fps thats the maximum that we can decide that 2 frames are actually 2 frames more than that we cant process them as individuals so it becomes a moving picture
this is not whats described in buddhism but it has a part, "what we conceive is not the truth"

 

[Arampanawa]

me arayama neda..

 

[kosandpol]

this is not whats described in buddhism but it has a part, "what we conceive is not the truth"

Interesting. Can you elaborate more on this ?

 

[madurax86]

Interesting. Can you elaborate more on this ?

actually it says that the things we conceive are infact relative therefore it cant be the truth, truth is not relative
the matter of color explains this,
if i show you a color
like that lol, you'll say its green. You say its green because it has the right frequency of the color green.
But you conceive or understood after seeing green is not the same as some other seeing green. But you use that understanding to call it green, without using the frequency, you dont see the frequency like in a meter but you know its green

why? you have been told as a child its green and you remembered it and now you call out green but we cant be sure about the picture that appears in our minds (you might be calling "green" for what i am in my mind call "blue") but both the frequencies we sense is the same...the understanding differs at times.

we tend to use our memory to label out stuff other than just labeling the input, thats where the problem starts.

And even if the above is done by labeling input, the input also becomes variable because of external matters.
There are more than 3 dimensions we live/understand only up to 3...we cant even describe how the 4th will look like but it is there and some other creatures and objects might be 4D ...or nD ..we just dont care

 

[Arampanawa]

meyage pissu wlata ochchcara diga rply liyan aya loku modayo..

 

[kosandpol]

actually it says that the things we conceive are infact relative therefore it cant be the truth, truth is not relative
the matter of color explains this,
if i show you a color
like that lol, you'll say its green. You say its green because it has the right frequency of the color green.
But you conceive or understood after seeing green is not the same as some other seeing green. But you use that understanding to call it green, without using the frequency, you dont see the frequency like in a meter but you know its green

why? you have been told as a child its green and you remembered it and now you call out green but we cant be sure about the picture that appears in our minds (you might be calling "green" for what i am in my mind call "blue") but both the frequencies we sense is the same...the understanding differs at times.

we tend to use our memory to label out stuff other than just labeling the input, thats where the problem starts.

And even if the above is done by labeling input, the input also becomes variable because of external matters.
There are more than 3 dimensions we live/understand only up to 3...we cant even describe how the 4th will look like but it is there and some other creatures and objects might be 4D ...or nD ..we just dont care

The 4th dimension is time. Theory of relativity explains this and we do care about it. Especially the astronauts and the space related workers.

 

[madurax86]

The 4th dimension is time. Theory of relativity explains this and we do care about it. Especially the astronauts and the space related workers.

hmm that seems new first 3 are or displacement and the 4th for time..interesting i never thought relativity went that that far ...lol
for once i thought relativity is all about A,B=A,C + C,B
lol

 

[Arampanawa]

meyage pissu wlata ochchcara diga rply liyan aay modayi..ane manda therenawada kiyala mage tiping

 

[kosandpol]

hmm that seems new first 3 are or displacement and the 4th for time..interesting i never thought relativity went that that far ...lol
for once i thought relativity is all about A,B=A,C + C,B
lol

That A,B=A,C + C,B stuff is algebra (and no, women dont wear that one ). Theory of relativity is all about using time as the 4th dimension. Quantum physics goes even further and uses time as a dimension in its explanation of atoms and their nucleus behaves.

 

[madurax86]

That A,B=A,C + C,B stuff is algebra (and no, women dont wear that one ). Theory of relativity is all about using time as the 4th dimension. Quantum physics goes even further and uses time as a dimension in its explanation of atoms and their nucleus behaves.

hmm but they still cant predict the position of an electron still ...it has it's uncertainty part too buddhism gives that answer to a variety of problems..even to the question "is there a soul or not"
and the answer is "may be, may be not" lol same with the electron may be its there may be not

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

That A,B=A,C + C,B stuff is algebra (and no, women dont wear that one ). Theory of relativity is all about using time as the 4th dimension. Quantum physics goes even further and uses time as a dimension in its explanation of atoms and their nucleus behaves.

Buddha teaches
how to find truth within oneself
so that relativity does not matter any more.
You see as you are
and that makes you closer to what you really are
that without any defilement.

Intellectualizing forever
can't make you realize what you understand
from a moments self observation.
Aththahi Aththano natho,
Kohi natho parosia.

​

 

[kosandpol]

hmm but they still cant predict the position of an electron still ...it has it's uncertainty part too buddhism gives that answer to a variety of problems..even to the question "is there a soul or not"
and the answer is "may be, may be not" lol same with the electron may be its there may be not

I believe its position of a neutron that still cannot be predicted and has uncertainties. I maybe wrong though.
Problem with these being that, there's still no way to "see" them in that predicted time. What we see is a reaction or the after effect of what happened after that electron or neutron reached the predicted position.

 

[Scarface]

we understand world through our senses.problem is that,the receivers of those senses are also a part of this world.

we are trying to see the world which is relative to itself.means it s a relative observation

no one get see the truth (even a court judge cant make the proper decision if he is looking at the case relative to the victims or guilty.he has to look relative to himself to make the right decision ) in that way.

so according to lord Buddha we have to look at this world relative to the mind eye.we cant accept what we see, what hear etc just as it there.have to go deeper to find the truth .

get out from those senses..if you want to find he truth.means you have to meditate....way to go

 

[kosandpol]

Buddha teaches
how to find truth within oneself
so that relativity does not matter any more.
You see as you are
and that makes you closer to what you really are
that without any defilement.

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but it matters since what we "see" is not what we are. That's what your opening post in this thread says.

 

[Scarface]

hmm but they still cant predict the position of an electron still ...it has it's uncertainty part too buddhism gives that answer to a variety of problems..even to the question "is there a soul or not"
and the answer is "may be, may be not" lol same with the electron may be its there may be not

hope you know about the CERN's LHC project .which is about to find the smallest partical in the universe.

we all know how things woks in quantum world(every entity has a characteristic of a wave & also a Partical,even though its same with this big world not considered big time) .those scientist trying to find a a partical (just a partical)which is not changing with the time..they call it as god's oartical .(constants).this is a hilarious effort.spending more than 6 billion.

mun buddagama dannawa nan..oya sallli okkoma ithurui..loke niyathayan na kiyana eka rove karanna hondama oppertunity ekak.

non exiting partical ekak observe karanna gihilla un anagena..dan project eka anila..

dan un kiyanawa me partical eka meta physics walata aithi deyak lu. kamak na paraku wela hari atha penunoth athi.

 

[kosandpol]

hope you know about the CERN's LHC project .which is about to find the smallest partical in the universe.

we all know how things woks in quantum world(every entity has a characteristic of a wave & also a Partical,even though its same with this big world not considered big time) .those scientist trying to find a a partical (just a partical)which is not changing with the time..they call it as god's oartical .(constants).this is a hilarious effort.spending more than 6 billion.

mun buddagama dannawa nan..oya sallli okkoma ithurui..loke niyathayan na kiyana eka rove karanna hondama oppertunity ekak.

non exiting partical ekak observe karanna gihilla un anagena..dan project eka anila..

dan un kiyanawa me partical eka meta physics walata aithi deyak lu. kamak na paraku wela hari atha penunoth athi.

The LHC project is not a project, LHC is a particle accelerator. CERN's LHC is the world's largest. They are not searching for a non existent particle, they are searching for a still unobserved particle. Also the LHC is supposed to go fully online later this year.

 

[Scarface]

The LHC project is not a project, LHC is a particle accelerator. CERN's LHC is the world's largest. They are not searching for a non existent particle, they are searching for a still unobserved particle. Also the LHC is supposed to go fully online later this year.

yea its the photon collider, i called it as project .they were trying to carry this experiment since last september.problem is with the word Observation.

its really fooilish thing to observe something which is only exiting in a few smmalest time periods of a this entire universe..

they think it as a constant .even they call it as a partical.actually in those abstract level finding [artical is myth.even though i accpet that ,doing experiments is a good thing.

but having wrong assumption & going for that is a mistake..dan anagena

you can find what im telling in here i did this talk with tem in last year.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=12756938915&topic=9190

see now what are they telling .


menna un anagena bawata sakki.maike harris kianne yamak danna ekek

Mike Harris (Toronto, ON) wroteon May 14, 2009 at 7:41am
The Higgs Boson is a metaphysical thing.

That's the funny thing about physics. If you haven't detected it yet, it is not part of the real world. But there is the line-up of prospective metaphysical entities that are closer to being detected than, say, ghosts or the Loch Ness Monster.

Seriously, I do think that the Higgs Boson has more credibility than the Loch Ness Monster, but they are both in the same limbo right now.

At this moment!

I liked the movie Ghostbusters. The LHC is like a movie called, "Higgs Boson Busters!"

It is funny the way thinking works.

 

[amila_90210]

බුද්ධාගම දඩමීමා කරගෙන මේ වගේ මෝඩ නිඝන්ටනාටුලපුත්තයො තමයි බුද්ධ ධර්මය වනසන්නේ...කැළෙ ගහක් නසන්නේ ගහක් මලු...බුද්ධාගමේ පරිහාණිය උදා වෙන්නේත් මෙයාලා වගේ බණ කියන උපාසක චණ්ඩාලයෝ නිසා..අටුල අන්කල් මගේ මේ ද්ගු සංසාරයේ ඔබ වැනි පුද්ගලයෙක් ආයේ හම්බෙන්න එපා කියලයි මගේ පැතුම ...සුභ ජීවිතයක්...ඔබේ "බටහිර බුදු දහම" ඔබත් එක්කම මැරෙන්නෑ..තව කල් තියේවි බය වෙන්න එපා...සායි බාබා පිහිටයි..මේ විශ්වයේ වැඩවසන අනන්ත වූ මහායාන බෝදිසත්ව පිහිටයි ...ටූටන්කාමන් අනුහසයි..දිගුකල් දිනේවා

 

[kosandpol]

බුද්ධාගම දඩමීමා කරගෙන මේ වගේ මෝඩ නිඝන්ටනාටුලපුත්තයො තමයි බුද්ධ ධර්මය වනසන්නේ...කැළෙ ගහක් නසන්නේ ගහක් මලු...බුද්ධාගමේ පරිහාණිය උදා වෙන්නේත් මෙයාලා වගේ බණ කියන උපාසක චණ්ඩාලයෝ නිසා..අටුල අන්කල් මගේ මේ ද්ගු සංසාරයේ ඔබ වැනි පුද්ගලයෙක් ආයේ හම්බෙන්න එපා කියලයි මගේ පැතුම ...සුභ ජීවිතයක්...ඔබේ "බටහිර බුදු දහම" ඔබත් එක්කම මැරෙන්නෑ..තව කල් තියේවි බය වෙන්න එපා...සායි බාබා පිහිටයි..මේ විශ්වයේ වැඩවසන අනන්ත වූ මහායාන බෝදිසත්ව පිහිටයි ...ටූටන්කාමන් අනුහසයි..දිගුකල් දිනේවා

why do I detect animosity towards Atula here ?
BTW, Quantum science only helps prove what The Lord Buddha had stated millenniums ago.