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mun buddagama dannawa nan..oya sallli okkoma ithurui..loke niyathayan na kiyana eka rove karanna hondama oppertunity ekak.

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Man hithanne
den seriousely Budu dahama practice karana westernersla
percentage eka baluwoth
Ape practice karana ayata wada wediyi.
Lankaawe thiyenne centers 2yi.
Amerikawe centers 8k thiyanawa.
Ekama vipassana course eka,
ekama rules, ekama dawas gaana,
ekama instructions.
Eth eyala practice karana pramaanaya apita wada wediyi.
Api api Budu dahamata wandinawa, pudanawa,
Budu dahama aramayi, mehemayi kiya kiya kayiwaru gahanawa.
Habayi Anapaana sathiwath karanne nehe.
Westernersla Vipassanath practice karanawa.
E eyaala scietifically prove karanna gihin anagaththa nisa thamai.


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kosandpol said:
why do I detect animosity towards Atula here ?
BTW, Quantum science only helps prove what The Lord Buddha had stated millenniums ago.
It proves what buddha originally said in that time. There are lots of junk gathered in by mostly hindu religion those are utter rubbish like "Dont Eat Meat" lmao never in buddhism there has given a clear answer to "should i eat meat and be a good buddhist" -- it just differs according to person and situation
but people like gandhi and those who quote from him like the more hindu side of buddhism exploring that is a waste of time. Exploring what was being said by the Buddha himself is true buddhism.
Atula is getting "animosity" is because his version of buddhism has hindu junk in it :P
 

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Hindu Junk ? where ?

The meditation centers he is refering are not of any buddhist back ground they are only meditation centers and they do not practice what buddha said they are practicing what some people in india practiced sometime ago :lol:

I have seen many wrong reasoning by atula giving absolutely no concern to "common sense" buddhism never undermines that infact buddhism develops common sense! take alook at his posts before he got banned about war most of those have ideas like "dont eat meat"
 

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    The meditation centers he is refering are not of any buddhist back ground they are only meditation centers and they do not practice what buddha said they are practicing what some people in india practiced sometime ago :lol:
    Obviously the meditation centers only teaches meditation.
    BTW, is the Vipassana Bhawana that he's always referring to not according to Buddhism as well ? Also this thread itself ?
    I have seen many wrong reasoning by atula giving absolutely no concern to "common sense" buddhism never undermines that infact buddhism develops common sense! take alook at his posts before he got banned about war most of those have ideas like "dont eat meat"
    his posts about war was just to rile up the "patriotic" mob. :lol: I doubt he was ever serious about those threads :lol:
     
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    kosandpol said:
    why do I detect animosity towards Atula here ?
    BTW, Quantum science only helps prove what The Lord Buddha had stated millenniums ago.

    Some time ago
    I worked as a translator for some 30 westerners
    who taught Trancendental Meditation in schools
    organized by a well known respected (Rare) politician.

    Many westerners who practiced TM
    have done a lot of scientific experiments
    and recorded lot of positive results.
    TM is after Laukika Samadhi, -dhyana
    but it paved me the way to Vipassana.

    One of the western teachers
    told me with lot of respect toward Buddha,
    that what scientists find today,
    Buddha has told 2500 years ago
    .
    It was the moment I came to know about Buddha's words 'Sabbe Loko Pakampito."
    That westerner related it to the scientific principle that Everything basically is in wave form.
    Now you say exactly the same.

    I can understand Amila's problem.
    He loves Buddha.
    He may have felt uneasy reading all this,
    because sooner or later one has to awake...
    and that hurts a bit.
    He is trying to fall back to his sleep
    but too late.

    Once he knows he was sleeping,
    waking up is the only contentment.

    I have a hunch that he will start his search soon
    because of his love for humanity,
    which I have not seen yet with any other.
    No matter what he says he may be the closest friend here...
    sharing with you...
     
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    The meditation centers he is refering are not of any buddhist back ground they are only meditation centers and they do not practice what buddha said they are practicing what some people in india practiced sometime ago :lol:

    I have seen many wrong reasoning by atula giving absolutely no concern to "common sense" buddhism never undermines that infact buddhism develops common sense! take alook at his posts before he got banned about war most of those have ideas like "dont eat meat"

    Vipassana Meditation As Taught By S.N. Goenka
    in the tradition of Sayagyi U Ba Khin

    This is the international home page of the organizations which offer courses in Vipassana Meditation as taught by S.N. Goenka and his assistant teachers in the tradition of Sayagyi U Ba Khin
    Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation. It was taught in India more than 2500 years ago as a universal remedy for universal ills, i.e., an Art of Living. For those who are not familiar with Vipassana Meditation, an Introduction to Vipassana by Mr. Goenka and Questions & Answers about Vipassana are available.
    The technique of Vipassana Meditation is taught at ten-day residential courses during which participants learn the basics of the method, and practice sufficiently to experience its beneficial results.
    There are no charges for the courses - not even to cover the cost of food and accommodation. All expenses are met by donations from people who, having completed a course and experienced the benefits of Vipassana, wish to give others the opportunity to also benefit.
    Courses are given in numerous Meditation Centers and at non-center course locations at rented sites. Each location has its own schedule of courses. In most cases, an application for admission to each of these courses can be made by clicking on a selected one of the listed course dates that appear in the schedule.
    There are numerous Centers in India and elsewhere in Asia; ten Centers in North America; three Centers in Latin America; eight Centers in Europe; seven Centers in Australia/New Zealand; one Center in the Middle East and one Center in Africa.
    Ten day non-center courses are frequently held at many locations outside of Centers as they are arranged by local students of Vipassana in those areas. An alphabetical list of worldwide course locations is available as well as a graphical interface of course locations worldwide and in India and Nepal.
    Vipassana Meditation courses are also being taught in prisons.
    A special 10-day Vipassana course especially for business executives and government officials is being held periodically at several centers around the world. For additional information visit the Executive Course Website.
     

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    kosandpol said:
    Obviously the meditation centers only teaches meditation.
    BTW, is the Vipassana Bhawana that he's always referring to not according to Buddhism as well ? Also this thread itself ?
    He posted some videos sometime ago and hey its a laymen indian who is trying to teach vipassana ....to me that's funny because as in buddhism monks are the people who give up their lives to meditation and training the mind...but the centers have ordinary laymen as teachers! and hell they have a FEE! NOT donations!
    biggest joke ever practiced using the name of buddhism

    his posts about war was just to rile up the "patriotic" mob. :lol: I doubt he was ever serious about those threads :lol:

    arouse the mob or not he based his ideas on buddhism that means that his version of buddhism is gandhism lol
     
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    madurax86 said:
    The meditation centers he is refering are not of any buddhist back ground they are only meditation centers and they do not practice what buddha said they are practicing what some people in india practiced sometime ago :lol:
    Vipassana Meditation

    The Technique

    Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation. It was rediscovered by Gotama Buddha more than 2500 years ago and was taught by him as a universal remedy for universal ills, i.e., an Art Of Living.
    This non-sectarian technique aims for the total eradication of mental impurities and the resultant highest happiness of full liberation. Healing, not merely the curing of diseases, but the essential healing of human suffering, is its purpose.
    Vipassana is a way of self-transformation through self-observation. It focuses on the deep interconnection between mind and body, which can be experienced directly by disciplined attention to the physical sensations that form the life of the body, and that continuously interconnect and condition the life of the mind. It is this observation-based, self-exploratory journey to the common root of mind and body that dissolves mental impurity, resulting in a balanced mind full of love and compassion.
    The scientific laws that operate one's thoughts, feelings, judgements and sensations become clear. Through direct experience, the nature of how one grows or regresses, how one produces suffering or frees oneself from suffering is understood. Life becomes characterized by increased awareness, non-delusion, self-control and peace.


    There is a special Satipatthana course for who had practiced 3 Ten-day courses.
     
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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    Vipassana Meditation As Taught By S.N. Goenka
    in the tradition of Sayagyi U Ba Khin

    This is the international home page of the organizations which offer courses in Vipassana Meditation as taught by S.N. Goenka and his assistant teachers in the tradition of Sayagyi U Ba Khin
    Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation. It was taught in India more than 2500 years ago as a universal remedy for universal ills, i.e., an Art of Living. For those who are not familiar with Vipassana Meditation, an Introduction to Vipassana by Mr. Goenka and Questions & Answers about Vipassana are available.
    The technique of Vipassana Meditation is taught at ten-day residential courses during which participants learn the basics of the method, and practice sufficiently to experience its beneficial results.
    There are no charges for the courses - not even to cover the cost of food and accommodation. All expenses are met by donations from people who, having completed a course and experienced the benefits of Vipassana, wish to give others the opportunity to also benefit.
    Courses are given in numerous Meditation Centers and at non-center course locations at rented sites. Each location has its own schedule of courses. In most cases, an application for admission to each of these courses can be made by clicking on a selected one of the listed course dates that appear in the schedule.
    There are numerous Centers in India and elsewhere in Asia; ten Centers in North America; three Centers in Latin America; eight Centers in Europe; seven Centers in Australia/New Zealand; one Center in the Middle East and one Center in Africa.
    Ten day non-center courses are frequently held at many locations outside of Centers as they are arranged by local students of Vipassana in those areas. An alphabetical list of worldwide course locations is available as well as a graphical interface of course locations worldwide and in India and Nepal.
    Vipassana Meditation courses are also being taught in prisons.
    A special 10-day Vipassana course especially for business executives and government officials is being held periodically at several centers around the world. For additional information visit the Executive Course Website.


    Extract from his about page
    (http://www.dhamma.org/en/goenka.shtml)

    "What is called Dharma in India has nothing to do with Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism or any other "ism". It is this simple truth: before you harm others, you first harm yourself by generating mental negativity; and by removing the negativity, you can find peace within and strengthen peace in the world."


    Now you know this guy isnt talking about buddhism and is spreading some indian mumbo jumbo :P
     

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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    Vipassana Meditation

    The Technique

    Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation. It was rediscovered by Gotama Buddha more than 2500 years ago and was taught by him as a universal remedy for universal ills, i.e., an Art Of Living.
    This non-sectarian technique aims for the total eradication of mental impurities and the resultant highest happiness of full liberation. Healing, not merely the curing of diseases, but the essential healing of human suffering, is its purpose.
    Vipassana is a way of self-transformation through self-observation. It focuses on the deep interconnection between mind and body, which can be experienced directly by disciplined attention to the physical sensations that form the life of the body, and that continuously interconnect and condition the life of the mind. It is this observation-based, self-exploratory journey to the common root of mind and body that dissolves mental impurity, resulting in a balanced mind full of love and compassion.
    The scientific laws that operate one's thoughts, feelings, judgements and sensations become clear. Through direct experience, the nature of how one grows or regresses, how one produces suffering or frees oneself from suffering is understood. Life becomes characterized by increased awareness, non-delusion, self-control and peace.


    HELLOO!!
    Rediscovered??? lmao dude look buddha used the indian names for somethings he taught are valuable but not all is valuable, buddhism's vipassana may have the useless stuff cut off and some useful stuff taken in. Same goes for pansil it existed before buddha expanded the meaning edited them and took it to buddhism but the hindu/brahman version differs from the buddhist version
     

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    He posted some videos sometime ago and hey its a laymen indian who is trying to teach vipassana ....to me that's funny because as in buddhism monks are the people who give up their lives to meditation and training the mind...but the centers have ordinary laymen as teachers! and hell they have a FEE! NOT donations!
    biggest joke ever practiced using the name of buddhism
    um.. arnt you getting a bit ahead of yourself there ?
    The meditation centers are only teaching one or few methods of meditation for the well being of the mind. Not the 8 fold path and Nirvana.
    No problem in charging a fee in teaching those meditation methods for laymen by laymen.

    Buddhism uses the same meditation techniques to train the mind and uses its own techniques to reach Nirvana.
     
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    The meditation centers he is refering are not of any buddhist back ground

    Introduction to the Technique

    Vipassana is one of India's most ancient meditation techniques. Long lost to humanity, it was rediscovered by Gotama the Buddha more than 2500 years ago. The word Vipassana means seeing things as they really are. It is the process of self- purification by self-observation. One begins by observing the natural breath to concentrate the mind. With a sharpened awareness one proceeds to observe the changing nature of body and mind and experiences the universal truths of impermanence, suffering and egolessness. This truth-realization by direct experience is the process of purification. The entire path (Dhamma) is a universal remedy for universal problems and has nothing to do with any organized religion or sectarianism. For this reason, it can be freely practiced by everyone, at any time, in any place, without conflict due to race, community or religion, and will prove equally beneficial to one and all.
    What Vipassana is not:

    • It is not a rite or ritual based on blind faith.
    • It is neither an intellectual nor a philosophical entertainment.
    • It is not a rest cure, a holiday, or an opportunity for socializing.
    • It is not an escape from the trials and tribulations of everyday life.
    What Vipassana is:

    • It is a technique that will eradicate suffering.
    • It is a method of mental purification which allows one to face life's tensions and problems in a calm, balanced way.
    • It is an art of living that one can use to make positive contributions to society.
    Vipassana meditation aims at the highest spiritual goals of total liberation and full enlightenment. Its purpose is never simply to cure physical disease. However, as a by-product of mental purification, many psychosomatic diseases are eradicated. In fact, Vipassana eliminates the three causes of all unhappiness: craving, aversion and ignorance. With continued practice, the meditation releases the tensions developed in everyday life, opening the knots tied by the old habit of reacting in an unbalanced way to pleasant and unpleasant situations.
    Although Vipassana was developed as a technique by the Buddha, its practice is not limited to Buddhists. There is absolutely no question of conversion. The technique works on the simple basis that all human beings share the same problems and a technique which can eradicate these problems will have a universal application. People from many religious denominations have experienced the benefits of Vipassana meditation, and have found no conflict with their profession of faith.
    Meditation and Self-discipline

    The process of self-purification by introspection is certainly never easy--students have to work very hard at it. By their own efforts students arrive at their own realizations; no one else can do this for them. Therefore, the meditation will suit only those willing to work seriously and observe the discipline, which is there for the benefit and protection of the meditators and is an integral part of the meditation practice.
    Ten days is certainly a very short time in which to penetrate the deepest levels of the unconscious mind and learn how to eradicate the complexes lying there. Continuity of the practice in seclusion is the secret of this technique's success. Rules and regulations have been developed keeping this practical aspect in mind. They are not primarily for the benefit of the teacher or the course management, nor are they negative expressions of tradition, orthodoxy or blind faith in some organized religion. Rather, they are based on the practical experience of thousands of meditators over the years and are both scientific and rational. Abiding by the rules creates a very conducive atmosphere for meditation; breaking them pollutes it.
    A student will have to stay for the entire period of the course. The other rules should also be carefully read and considered. Only those who feel that they can honestly and scrupulously follow the discipline should apply for admission. Those not prepared to make a determined effort will waste their time and, moreover, will disturb others who wish to work seriously. A prospective student should also understand that it would be both disadvantageous and inadvisable to leave without finishing the course upon finding the discipline too difficult. Likewise, it would be most unfortunate if, in spite of repeated reminders, a student does not follow the rules and has to be asked to leave.
     

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    um.. arnt you getting a bit ahead of yourself there ?
    The meditation centers are only teaching one or few methods of meditation for the well being of the mind. Not the 8 fold path and Nirvana.
    No problem in charging a fee in teaching those meditation methods for laymen by laymen.

    Buddhism uses the same meditation techniques to train the mind and uses its own techniques to reach Nirvana.

    theres no problem in them carrying out meditation classes, the problem is when people like atula start to label them as "BUDDHISM"!
     
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    The meditation centers he is refering are not of any buddhist back ground
    The Code of Discipline

    The foundation of the practice is sīla — moral conduct. Sīla provides a basis for the development of samādhi — concentration of mind; and purification of the mind is achieved through paññā — the wisdom of insight.
    The Precepts

    All who attend a Vipassana course must conscientiously undertake the following five precepts for the duration of the course:
    • to abstain from killing any being;
    • to abstain from stealing;
    • to abstain from all sexual activity;
    • to abstain from telling lies;
    • to abstain from all intoxicants.
    There are three additional precepts which old students (that is, those who have completed a course with S.N. Goenka or one of his assistant teachers) are expected to follow during the course:
    • to abstain from eating after midday;
    • to abstain from sensual entertainment and bodily decorations
    • to abstain from using high or luxurious beds.
    Old students will observe the sixth precept by having tea without milk or fruit juice at the 5 p.m. break, whereas new student may have tea with milk and some fruit. The teacher may excuse an old student from observing this precept for health reasons. The seventh and eighth precept will be observed by all.
    Acceptance of the Teacher and the Technique

    Students must declare themselves willing to comply fully and for the duration of the course with the teacher's guidance and instructions; that is, to observe the discipline and to meditate exactly as the teacher asks, without ignoring any part of the instructions, nor adding anything to them. This acceptance should be one of discrimination and understanding, not blind submission. Only with an attitude of trust can a student work diligently and thoroughly. Such confidence in the teacher and the technique is essential for success in meditation.
    Other Techniques, Rites, and Forms of Worship

    During the course it is absolutely essential that all forms of prayer, worship, or religious ceremony — fasting, burning incense, counting beads, reciting mantras, singing and dancing, etc. — be discontinued. All other meditation techniques and healing or spiritual practices should also be suspended. This is not to condemn any other technique or practice, but to give a fair trial to the technique of Vipassana in its purity.
    Students are strongly advised that deliberately mixing other techniques of meditation with Vipassana will impede and even reverse their progress. Despite repeated warnings by the teacher, there have been cases in the past where students have intentionally mixed this technique with a ritual or another practice, and have done themselves a great disservice. Any doubts or confusion which may arise should always be clarified by meeting with the teacher.
    Interviews With the Teacher

    The teacher is available to meet students privately between 12 Noon and 1:00 p.m. Questions may also be asked in public between 9:00 and 9:30 p.m. in the meditation hall. The interview and question times are for clarifying the technique and for questions arising from the evening discourses.
    Noble Silence

    All students must observe Noble Silence from the beginning of the course until the morning of the last full day. Noble Silence means silence of body, speech, and mind. Any form of communication with fellow student, whether by gestures, sign language, written notes, etc., is prohibited.
    Students may, however, speak with the teacher whenever necessary and they may approach the management with any problems related to food, accommodation, health, etc. But even these contacts should be kept to a minimum. Students should cultivate the feeling that they are working in isolation.
    Separation of Men and Women

    Complete segregation of men and women is to be maintained. Couples, married or otherwise, should not contact each other in any way during the course. The same applies to friends, members of the same family, etc.
    Physical Contact

    It is important that throughout the course there be no physical contact whatsoever between persons of the same or opposite sex.
    Yoga and Physical Exercise

    Although physical yoga and other exercises are compatible with Vipassana, they should be suspended during the course because proper secluded facilities are not available at the course site. Jogging is also not permitted. Students may exercise during rest periods by walking in the designated areas.
    Religious Objects, Rosaries, Crystals, Talismans, etc.

    No such items should be brought to the course site. If brought inadvertently they should be deposited with the management for the duration of the course.
    Intoxicants and Drugs

    No drugs, alcohol, or other intoxicants should be brought to the site; this also applies to tranquilizers, sleeping pills, and all other sedatives. Those taking medicines or drugs on a doctor's prescription should notify the teacher.
    Tobacco

    For the health and comfort of all students, smoking, chewing tobacco, and taking snuff are not permitted at the course.
    Food

    It is not possible to satisfy the special food preferences and requirements of all the meditators. Students are therefore kindly requested to make do with the simple vegetarian meals provided. The course management endeavors to prepare a balanced, wholesome menu suitable for meditation. If any students have been prescribed a special diet because of ill-health, they should inform the management at the time of application. Fasting is not permitted.
    Clothing

    Dress should be simple, modest, and comfortable. Tight, transparent, revealing, or otherwise striking clothing (such as shorts, short skirts, tights and leggings, sleeveless or skimpy tops) should not be worn. Sunbathing and partial nudity are not permitted. This is important in order to minimize distraction to others.
    Laundry and Bathing

    No washing machines or dryers are available, so students should bring sufficient clothing. Small items can be hand-washed. Bathing and laundry may be done only in the break periods and not during meditation hours.
    Outside Contacts

    Students must remain within the course boundaries throughout the course. They may leave only with the specific consent of the teacher. No outside communications is allowed before the course ends. This includes letters, phone calls and visitors. Cell phones, pagers, and other electronic devices must be deposited with the management until the course ends. In case of an emergency, a friend or relative may contact the management.
    Music, Reading and Writing

    The playing of musical instruments, radios, etc. is not permitted. No reading or writing materials should be brought to the course. Students should not distract themselves by taking notes. The restriction on reading and writing is to emphasize the strictly practical nature of this meditation.
    Tape Recorders and Cameras

    These may not be used except with the express permission of the teacher.

    http://www.dhamma.org/en/code.shtml
     
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    HELLOO!!
    Rediscovered??? lmao dude look buddha used the indian names for somethings he taught are valuable but not all is valuable, buddhism's vipassana may have the useless stuff cut off and some useful stuff taken in. Same goes for pansil it existed before buddha expanded the meaning edited them and took it to buddhism but the hindu/brahman version differs from the buddhist version
    Rediscoverd means because there have been numerous Samma Sambuddha's befor him and 3 more, Kakusanda, Konagama and Kashyapa were also teaching the same in this Kalpa. So it was a discovery, not an invention.
     

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    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    Rediscoverd means because there have been numerous Samma Sambuddha's befor him and 3 more, Kakusanda, Konagama and Kashyapa were also teaching the same in this Kalpa. So it was a discovery, not an invention.

    rediscovered means that it was around when buddha taught it
    you sure that those other buddha's dhamma prevailed when gautama buddha attained enlightenment??
    They are just taking vipassana out of buddhism and making it separate it's just a business
     
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    and hell they have a FEE! NOT donations!
    biggest joke ever practiced using the name of buddhism lol


    Note that it is not taught for a fee,
    but also
    they don't accept donations
    from anyone who had not followed at least one course,

    that means
    from believers who do not know what it is.
    Do you know any religious institution that follows this rule.
    It is taught for about 40 years now with same rules.




    Course Finances


    According to the tradition of pure Vipassana, courses are run solely on a donation basis. Donations are accepted only from those who have completed at least one ten-day course with S.N. Goenka or one of his assisting teachers. Someone taking the course for the first time may give a donation on the last day of the course or any time thereafter.
    In this way course are supported by those who have realized for themselves the benefits of the practice. Wishing to share these benefits with others, one gives a donation according to one's means and volition. Such donations are the only source of funding for course in this tradition around the world. There is no wealthy foundation or individual sponsoring them. Neither the teachers nor the organizers receive any kind of payment for their service. Thus, the spread of Vipassana is carried out with purity of purpose, free from any commercialism.
    Whether a donation is large or small, it should be given with the wish to help others: 'The course I have taken has been paid for through the generosity of past students; now let me give something towards the cost of a future course, so that others may also benefit by this technique.'



    http://www.dhamma.org/en/code.shtml
     
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    theres no problem in them carrying out meditation classes, the problem is when people like atula start to label them as "BUDDHISM"!
    You talk freely with your imagination, without even reading what I posted here.
    I talk with discipline of practicing Vipassana for more than one third of my life.
    Even if my labeling is wrong,
    you have no knowledge or experience
    to prove that I am wrong.


    Just out of curiosity,

    have you ever tried
    any
    meditation technique
    in your life?

    .
     
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